Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > The National Football League
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


The National Football League League News & Current Events

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-23-2013   #1
srrono
Hall of Fame
 
srrono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,560
Rep Power: 21340 srrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respected
Default HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Height: 6-2
Weight: 238
Born: Oct 9, 1986 - Irving, Texas
College: TCU
Draft: 2010 - 2nd round 15th pick by the Arizona Cardinals

How difficult is it for a 34 ILB to convert to a 43 LB?

Arizona hired a new Coach Bruce Arians who brought in DC Todd Bowles former DC of PHI Reports are saying ARZ will be changing from the 34 defense to a 43 defense that Bradley ran in . Daryl Washington is a star ILB who in 2012 had 134 tackles 9 sacks 1 int. What would be fair value in a trade for Washington? This could be a similar situation that Ryans was in. Texans traded LB DeMeco Ryans to Eagles for 4th rounder, I wonder if Houston could get Washington for a 3rd or a 4th?

Remaining salary
2013/2014 - 2,400,000
2014/2015 - 2,900,000
2015/2016 - 3,400,000
2016/2017 - 4,400,000

This is a complete pipe dream but hey thats what forums are for right lol.

LB core of
Mercilous Washington Cushing Brooks
Scary

Last edited by srrono; 01-23-2013 at 02:26 PM.
srrono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #2
b0ng
Ooops
 
b0ng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Age: 33
Posts: 7,658
Rep Power: 70440 b0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrono View Post
Height: 6-2
Weight: 238
Born: Oct 9, 1986 - Irving, Texas
College: TCU
Draft: 2010 - 2nd round 15th pick by the Arizona Cardinals

How difficult is it for a 34 ILB to convert to a 43 LB?

Arizona hired a new Coach Gus Bradley who brought in DC Todd Bowles former DC of SEA. Reports are saying ARZ will be changing from the 34 defense to a 43 defense that Bradley ran in SEA. Daryl Washington is a star ILB who in 2012 had 134 tackles 9 sacks 1 int. What would be fair value in a trade for Washington? This could be a similar situation that Ryans was in. Texans traded LB DeMeco Ryans to Eagles for 4th rounder, I wonder if Houston could get Washington for a 3rd or a 4th?

Remaining salary
2013/2014 - 2,400,000
2014/2015 - 2,900,000
2015/2016 - 3,400,000
2016/2017 - 4,400,000

This is a complete pipe dream but hey thats what forums are for right lol.

LB core of
Mercilous Washington Cushing Brooks
Scary
BZZZZZZZZZT! Gus Bradley is the HC of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I doubt AZ is going to just trade their young talent until they prove they can't handle a scheme change, if in fact that is what will happen in AZ.
__________________
\_(ツ)_/
http://www.thedrawplay.com/?p=88
b0ng is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #3
srrono
Hall of Fame
 
srrono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,560
Rep Power: 21340 srrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by b0ng View Post
BZZZZZZZZZT! Gus Bradley is the HC of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I doubt AZ is going to just trade their young talent until they prove they can't handle a scheme change, if in fact that is what will happen in AZ.
Bruce Arians my bad I was reading about Bradley and mix them up.

http://www.revengeofthebirds.com/201...-a-4-3-defense

34 ILB to a 43 LB may not be a hard transition I don't know.

Daryl Washington- Washington is the main concern I have heading to any type of traditional 4-3 defense, as I see him being successful, but don't see a guy who is going to be nearly as effective as he was in his near All Pro 2012 season. From link above
srrono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #4
Dutchrudder 
COOL BEANS!
 
Dutchrudder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston
Section: Fort Kickass
Age: 30
Posts: 15,063
Rep Power: 150980 Dutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrono View Post
Height: 6-2
Weight: 238
Born: Oct 9, 1986 - Irving, Texas
College: TCU
Draft: 2010 - 2nd round 15th pick by the Arizona Cardinals

How difficult is it for a 34 ILB to convert to a 43 LB?

Arizona hired a new Coach Bruce Arians who brought in DC Todd Bowles former DC of SEA. Reports are saying ARZ will be changing from the 34 defense to a 43 defense that Bradley ran in SEA. Daryl Washington is a star ILB who in 2012 had 134 tackles 9 sacks 1 int. What would be fair value in a trade for Washington? This could be a similar situation that Ryans was in. Texans traded LB DeMeco Ryans to Eagles for 4th rounder, I wonder if Houston could get Washington for a 3rd or a 4th?

Remaining salary
2013/2014 - 2,400,000
2014/2015 - 2,900,000
2015/2016 - 3,400,000
2016/2017 - 4,400,000

This is a complete pipe dream but hey thats what forums are for right lol.

LB core of
Mercilous Washington Cushing Brooks
Scary
Dunno where you got this, but it looks like a copy/paste. Should probably link back to whoever did the work.

Anyways, the remaining salary numbers are misleading. First thing is he has 2.418 million in signing bonus left on his deal, which would be accelerated into the Cardinals 2013's cap if he gets traded. That's not too high, but it's something they would have to consider before moving him, and it would make them ask for more in a trade.

He apparently has a 10 million dollar option bonus, which will be picked up this offseason if the Cardinals don't cut him. That will add 2 million to each year of his salaries. The list above left one year off of his contract. So considering all of that, his actual salary structure is:

Remaining salary
2013/2014 - 4,400,000
2014/2015 - 4,900,000
2015/2016 - 5,400,000
2016/2017 - 6,400,000
2017/2018 - 6,400,000

That's a bit pricey, but he would be a welcomed addition at ILB.
__________________
Life is too important to be taken seriously. -Oscar Wilde
Dutchrudder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #5
srrono
Hall of Fame
 
srrono's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,560
Rep Power: 21340 srrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respectedsrrono is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutchrudder View Post
Dunno where you got this, but it looks like a copy/paste. Should probably link back to whoever did the work.

Anyways, the remaining salary numbers are misleading. First thing is he has 2.418 million in signing bonus left on his deal, which would be accelerated into the Cardinals 2013's cap if he gets traded. That's not too high, but it's something they would have to consider before moving him, and it would make them ask for more in a trade.

He apparently has a 10 million dollar option bonus, which will be picked up this offseason if the Cardinals don't cut him. That will add 2 million to each year of his salaries. The list above left one year off of his contract. So considering all of that, his actual salary structure is:

Remaining salary
2013/2014 - 4,400,000
2014/2015 - 4,900,000
2015/2016 - 5,400,000
2016/2017 - 6,400,000
2017/2018 - 6,400,000

That's a bit pricey, but he would be a welcomed addition at ILB.
Look at my history I always link where credit is due. I am not sure what you are Referring too. Here is where I got salary info.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/yearly/
srrono is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #6
infantrycak
Lead Moderator
 
infantrycak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Age: 46
Posts: 45,102
Rep Power: 300095 infantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respectedinfantrycak is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by srrono View Post
Dutch's point is correct - the salary cap hit is more important than the salary itself.
__________________
The Art of War
infantrycak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #7
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
 
Mr teX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Everyone Wants The Throne
Posts: 7,668
Rep Power: 86686 Mr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respectedMr teX is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Lol at Ariz. giving that guy up..
Mr teX is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 01-23-2013   #8
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 33,703
Rep Power: 209602 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr teX View Post
Lol at Ariz. giving that guy up..
Agreed. I don't see this as any different than us taking Cushing & making him an ILB, Mike even. If this kid is talented, they'll find a place for him. Us trading Demeco, was Rick Smith being cute if you ask me.
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #9
AJ-80
Veteran
 
AJ-80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 132
Rep Power: 547 AJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respectedAJ-80 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

I would gain so much for front office if they made this happen...pick him up!!!
AJ-80 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #10
Rey
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 14,475
Rep Power: 0 Rey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respectedRey is a quality contributor and well respected
Default

I don't get the reasoning for Arizona trading him...

Itd almost be like us trading Cushing because we changed from 43 to 34.

If we were to trade for him it'd probably cost too much to get him anyways...
Rey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #11
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 9,811
Rep Power: 10969 El Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respectedEl Tejano is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Since we are talking Az. How about I twist this whole thing up and say "What if Az were offering a trade for Kolb?"
El Tejano is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #12
Dutchrudder 
COOL BEANS!
 
Dutchrudder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Houston
Section: Fort Kickass
Age: 30
Posts: 15,063
Rep Power: 150980 Dutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respectedDutchrudder is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Tejano View Post
Since we are talking Az. How about I twist this whole thing up and say "What if Az were offering a trade for Kolb?"
Hell no. His contract is insane. He will be released or forced to restructure. Get him for cheap on the scrap heap if you get him at all.
__________________
Life is too important to be taken seriously. -Oscar Wilde
Dutchrudder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2013   #13
b0ng
Ooops
 
b0ng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Age: 33
Posts: 7,658
Rep Power: 70440 b0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respectedb0ng is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: HOU should trade 4 ILB Daryl Washington ARZ

Quote:
Originally Posted by El Tejano View Post
Since we are talking Az. How about I twist this whole thing up and say "What if Az were offering a trade for Kolb?"
Not worth the money he is currently owed and would hate to give up draft picks to get that Hindenburg of a contract.
__________________
\_(ツ)_/
http://www.thedrawplay.com/?p=88
b0ng is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > Football Talk > The National Football League
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger