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Default Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Former Oakland Raiders wide receiver Tim Brown said in a recent radio interview that much of the blame for the Raiders' 48-21 loss to Tampa Bay in Super Bowl XXXVII in 2003, following the 2002 season, should go to head coach Bill Callahan, suggesting some of Callahan's decisions in the days leading up to the game seemed like sabotoge.

"We get our game plan for victory on Monday, and the game plan says we're gonna run the ball," Brown said Saturday on SiriusXM NFL Radio, according to ProFootballTalk.com, which received a copy of the audio. "We averaged 340 [pounds] on the offensive line, they averaged 280 [on the defensive line]. We're all happy with that, everybody is excited. [We] tell Charlie Garner, 'Look, you're not gonna get too many carries, but at the end of the day we're gonna get a victory. Tyrone Wheatley, Zack Crockett, let's get ready to blow this thing up.'"

Brown said Callahan then "blew this thing up" on the Friday before the Super Bowl, changing the game plan from one dependent on running to one in which the Raiders would "throw the ball 60 times."

"We all called it sabotage . . . because Callahan and [Tampa Bay coach Jon] Gruden were good friends," Brown said. "And Callahan had a big problem with the Raiders, you know, hated the Raiders. You know, only came [to the Raiders] because Gruden made him come. Literally walked off the field on us a couple of times during the season when he first got there, the first couple years [as an assistant]. So really he had become someone who was part of the staff but we just didn't pay him any attention. Gruden leaves, he becomes the head coach. . . . It's hard to say that the guy sabotaged the Super Bowl. You know, can you really say that? That can be my opinion, but I can't say for a fact that that's what his plan was, to sabotage the Super Bowl. He hated the Raiders so much that he would sabotage the Super Bowl so his friend can win the Super Bowl. That's hard to say, because you can't prove it.

"But the facts are what they are, that less than 36 hours before the game, we changed our game plan. And we go into that game absolutely knowing that we have no shot. That the only shot we had if Tampa Bay didn't show up."

Brown said the change had a dramatic effect on center Barret Robbins, who disappeared the day before the game.

Browns said in the interview, "Barret Robbins begged Coach Callahan, 'Do not do this to me. I don't have time to make my calls, to get my calls ready. You can't do this to me on Friday. We haven't practiced full speed, we can't get this done.'"

"I'm not saying one (the game plan change) had anything to do with the other (Robbins' disappearance)," Brown said. "All I'm saying is those are the facts of what happened Super Bowl week. So our ire wasn't towards Barret Robbins, it was towards Bill Callahan. Because we feel as if he wouldn't have did what he did, then Barret wouldn't have done what he did.

"Now, should Barret have manned up and tried to do it? Absolutely. But everybody knew Barret was unstable anyway. So to put him in that situation - not that he was putting him in that situation - but for that decision to be made without consulting the players the Friday before the Super Bowl? I played 27 years of football. The coaches never changed the game plan the Friday before the game. I'm not trying to point fingers at anybody here, all I'm saying is those are the facts of what happened. So people look at Barret and they say all these things, but every player in that locker room will tell you, 'You'd better talk to Bill Callahan.' Because if not for Coach Callahan, I don't think we're in that situation."

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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

They just had a RB from the team on Mike and Mike and said that the plan was changed saturday after the center went AWOL
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

I think everybody knows already that Callahan was a terrible NFL HC, and from what I understood he kept Gruden's playbook when Gruden left and didn't change any of it.

How you gonna try using a scheme against a coach when he was the one that came up with it? Also, it wouldn't shock me at all if Al Davis was the real reason the Raiders wanted to air it out rather than pound the ball that Friday. That just sounds like Al Davis.
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it's the raiders. tin-foil hats need not apply - most conspiracies will be proven accurate.
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

I actually heard that piece live on saturday night. pretty interensting stuff.
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Listening to Tampa Bay sports radio right now. They are having a field day with this.
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Tim Brown just agreed to be interviewed by Tampa Sports Radio 98.7. The host is Booger McFarlen who was on that Bucs Super Bowl team. Booger is going off so this should be an interesting interview.

You can stream it here http://tampa.cbslocal.com/station/98-7-the-fan/ . He should be on in 40 minutes.
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Besides the fullback for the Raiders most have denied this I think...Rich Gannon and others.
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Besides the fullback for the Raiders most have denied this I think...Rich Gannon and others.
Bill Romanowski just came out and said Tim Brown is nuts.
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Bill Romanowski just came out and said Tim Brown is nuts.
Um, isn't Romanowski nuts?
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Um, isn't Romanowski nuts?
Yes .. which makes it all the more damning ..lol.
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Tim Brown is on now.
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Jerry Rice says Brown is right

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Rice, who was on the Raiders team that lost Super Bowl XXXVII to the Buccaneers, said on ESPN that Callahan disliked his players, disliked his team, and was willing to let his old boss, then-Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden, beat him.

“For some reason — and I don’t know why — Bill Callahan did not like me,” Rice said. “In a way, maybe because he didn’t like the Raiders, he decided, ‘Maybe we should sabotage this a little bit and let Jon Gruden go out and win this one.’”
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Ridiculous. The Bucs crushed them. McFarlen commented today that man to man they just beat them down and Brown didn't disagree with him.

Also you (Callahan) have a chance to win a Super Bowl which would be the greatest career accomplishment one in your position could make, and yet you are going to purposely blow it because you don't like your boss, your employees and want to hand that over to your buddy. Not very likely.

Also as was brought out today in that interview the Raiders lost doing what they did to get them there. Slinging the ball around the field. A team doesn't completely change their whole way of playing for one game. It wouldn't have worked anyway.
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

Before I clicked the link, my first thought was the rams -patriots super bowl where mike Martz decided to forget about using Faulk in the second half


I can't see a coach purposely lose. Too much time invested for a season and too hard to get to a super bowl to just blow it off
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Default Re: Tim Brown hints at sabotage by coach in 2003 Super Bowl

OK, set aside the claims of Callahan throwing the game. Do you believe Tim Brown when he says that Callahan changed the game plan the Friday before the game?
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OK, set aside the claims of Callahan throwing the game. Do you believe Tim Brown when he says that Callahan changed the game plan the Friday before the game?

It's hard to believe you would just up and make a change like that just because. It's much more believable that you center who ran your offense and called all the plays went AWOL Saturday and that's when you had to change the plan
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I think everybody knows already that Callahan was a terrible NFL HC, and from what I understood he kept Gruden's playbook when Gruden left and didn't change any of it.

How you gonna try using a scheme against a coach when he was the one that came up with it? Also, it wouldn't shock me at all if Al Davis was the real reason the Raiders wanted to air it out rather than pound the ball that Friday. That just sounds like Al Davis.
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Besides the fullback for the Raiders most have denied this I think...Rich Gannon and others.
So, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown and Charlie Garner say yes; Rich Gannon, Bill Romonowski and Lincoln Kennedy say no.

I will say this, Callahan DID call the Oakland team HE coached, the dumbest team in America. So, maybe he didn't like the Raiders and Davis, but I'd hope he wouldn't be so dumb as to risk his reputation and career on petty spite. I think what Callahan is guilty of, is not being very bright or creative. Even I knew going into that game that Wheatley and Garner would have to be more important cogs than Rice and Brown. Callahan wasn't smart enough to figure that out.
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