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Old 01-22-2013   #101
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The only reason why the Texans lost is because we blitzed Tom Brady the whole damn game. I don't know the stats are but I read somewhere that he has the best QB rating against the blitz. His weakness is when you only send 4 and play coverage the whole game (especially if you mix it up and show blitz and then drop back). Well that is how the Ravens played the Patriots on Sunday. We only lost because of game plan NOT because they are a better team. Wade has to make better adjustments point blank. In our game against the Patriots he blitzed the whole game pretty much and got burnt consistently. HOWEVER he did on one possession only send 4 and dropped the rest in coverage and boy did Uncle Tom look frustrated as soon as we did that (we got a 3 and out). But on the next possession he blitzed again and had a LB lined up on a RB out wide with no safety help. That's just retarded.
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The only reason why the Texans lost is because we blitzed Tom Brady the whole damn game. I don't know the stats are but I read somewhere that he has the best QB rating against the blitz. His weakness is when you only send 4 and play coverage the whole game (especially if you mix it up and show blitz and then drop back). Well that is how the Ravens played the Patriots on Sunday. We only lost because of game plan NOT because they are a better team. Wade has to make better adjustments point blank. In our game against the Patriots he blitzed the whole game pretty much and got burnt consistently. HOWEVER he did on one possession only send 4 and dropped the rest in coverage and boy did Uncle Tom look frustrated as soon as we did that (we got a 3 and out). But on the next possession he blitzed again and had a LB lined up on a RB out wide with no safety help. That's just retarded.
Pats were the better team vs the Texans

Ravens were the better team vs the Pats
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Pats were the better team vs the Texans

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Maybe you did didn't watch both games. The Texans went blitz crazy against a QB that is the best in the league against the blitz (AGAIN) and got burnt for it. The Ravens did not go blitz crazy and only sent 4 and played coverage most of the game and at times showing blitz but only sending 4 and playing coverage against a QB that lost 2 SBs against this formula. In fact the Raven did not even get consistent pressure on Tom Brady yet with only sending 4 and playing coverage they were able to keep the Pats offense in check. The Texans had the wrong game plan POINT BLANK.
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Maybe you did didn't watch both games. The Texans went blitz crazy against a QB that is the best in the league against the blitz (AGAIN) and got burnt for it. The Ravens did not go blitz crazy and only sent 4 and played coverage most of the game and at times showing blitz but only sending 4 and playing coverage against a QB that lost 2 SBs against this formula. In fact the Raven did not even get consistent pressure on Tom Brady yet with only sending 4 and playing coverage they were able to keep the Pats offense in check. The Texans had the wrong game plan POINT BLANK.
I watch every game- I agree with your assessment BUT:

The gameplan is developed by the coaching staff which is part of your team. They failed therefore they were not better than the Patriots that day. The Ravens succeeded therefore they were better than the Pats that day.
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play after play we ran a man-read run blitz. everyone had an assignment (which got us killed against the hurry), and the assignment was to read their match and then "blitz" if their assignment stayed in to block. this has been our defense most of the season, and is quite possibly the most cautious scheme devised. we blitzed at least 5 on almost every play ... after the offense had declared it's targets.

our OLB's were horrid, but i cant blame them too much, because most of the time they (especially barwin) had HB duty. the problem, as i've repeated, lies in the middle. if barwin and reed are your best athletes in coverage - who's rushing the passer? this problem is compounded by the lack of help at linebacker once cushing went down. we dont have a linebacker who can cover, so common sense says bring a safety or two in the box. now you have to put forth that crappy run blitz with your DB's or else surrender to run games. we were screwed the moment cushing went down, because there arent 2 players combined who can do his job.
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Maybe you did didn't watch both games. The Texans went blitz crazy against a QB that is the best in the league against the blitz (AGAIN) and got burnt for it. The Ravens did not go blitz crazy and only sent 4 and played coverage most of the game and at times showing blitz but only sending 4 and playing coverage against a QB that lost 2 SBs against this formula. In fact the Raven did not even get consistent pressure on Tom Brady yet with only sending 4 and playing coverage they were able to keep the Pats offense in check. The Texans had the wrong game plan POINT BLANK.
I think the Ravens fans will agree that even though Ray Lewis is not exactly playing at a high level... having him back in there brings a TON of leadership and experience in handling that Pats offense.

Having no Cushing was a HUGE blow to our effeciency and ability to mix disguise xoverage/blitz packages. Our D looks entirely different with Cushing on the field and the Pats are a terrible matchup for any team having to start James and Ruud as your ILBs.
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Wade's schemes live and die by the blitz & it's highly probable that if we don't blitz, we get the ball run down our throat; This is b'c our d-line doesn't have that traditional 3-4 Gilbert Brown-esque plug in the middle This is pretty much what the Colts and Vikes did to us in stretches and the Pats did at times with Ridley in the playoffs.

If you watched us all year, our run stopping ability primarily consisted of Watt defeating his guy fast and damn near laying out to get the guy at the LOS (b/c they were running away from him) or blowing the play up enough to where the others could react to minimize the gain...rare if ever it was anyone else doing that.

Having worthless Lb's was only exposed when teams spread us out and put those guys in coverage and Watt's impact was minimized.
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Having worthless Lb's was only exposed when teams spread us out and put those guys in coverage and Watt's impact was minimized.
It wasn't just the LBs. Playing man, they criss crossed & stacked their receivers & we didn't handle any of those situations well. Well, we didn't handle many of them well. They had separation right off the line, because of those simple crossing patterns.
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Say what you want to say about high-powered offenses in today's league... but what I saw today was defenses bringing their team to the Superbowl.

Both the 49ers and Ravens totally shut down these high-powered offenses in the 2nd half, not allowing either team to score a single point... allowing the offenses to make a comeback.

Maybe the bigger issue isn't Schaub not being elite, but why can't our defense stop elite QBs?!?
The black bolded is your answer Ladies and Gents (Repped, by the way...)

Remember the last time Brady made it to the Super Bowl and Plaxico said the final score would be 23-17 Giants. And Brady all but laughed out loud at the thought that his offense could be held to just 17 points..? Well the final score was 17-14 Giants. Just one additional example of a quality defense shutting down a so-called, "elite QB" and a high powered offense (weren't the Pats the highest scoring team in league history that year?? AND undefeated??).

You guys can wish for an "Elite QB" all you want; give me another J.J.Watt and a Patrick Willis or NaVarro Bowman clone in the middle to go with a healthy Cushing. ...maybe throw in a quicker, stronger NT to rotate with Earl Mitchell too... And I'll take my chances against the "elite QBs"
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I think the Ravens fans will agree that even though Ray Lewis is not exactly playing at a high level... having him back in there brings a TON of leadership and experience in handling that Pats offense.

Having no Cushing was a HUGE blow to our effeciency and ability to mix disguise xoverage/blitz packages. Our D looks entirely different with Cushing on the field and the Pats are a terrible matchup for any team having to start James and Ruud as your ILBs.
Ray at 37 isn't the same as Ray at 27- we all know that. he gets lost in coverage some times- he gets blown up by an athletic guard on the second level

But you exactly correct that his leadership is a very valuable tool.
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Ray at 37 isn't the same as Ray at 27- we all know that. he gets lost in coverage some times- he gets blown up by an athletic guard on the second level

But you exactly correct that his leadership is a very valuable tool.
ray at 37 isnt ray at 27 ... but ray at 37 is still a heck of a lot better than most 27 year old starters. just last year his stats were near DMVP worthy and his game tape reflected it. maybe running on fumes, but the motor's still going. hopefully he has one more big time performance left in him.
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ray at 37 isnt ray at 27 ... but ray at 37 is still a heck of a lot better than most 27 year old starters. just last year his stats were near DMVP worthy and his game tape reflected it. maybe running on fumes, but the motor's still going. hopefully he has one more big time performance left in him.
He's in the top 12 of MLB's at 37- but no longer the best. Glad he can ride off into th Sunset like this....
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Wade's schemes live and die by the blitz & it's highly probable that if we don't blitz, we get the ball run down our throat; This is b'c our d-line doesn't have that traditional 3-4 Gilbert Brown-esque plug in the middle This is pretty much what the Colts and Vikes did to us in stretches and the Pats did at times with Ridley in the playoffs.

If you watched us all year, our run stopping ability primarily consisted of Watt defeating his guy fast and damn near laying out to get the guy at the LOS (b/c they were running away from him) or blowing the play up enough to where the others could react to minimize the gain...rare if ever it was anyone else doing that.

Having worthless Lb's was only exposed when teams spread us out and put those guys in coverage and Watt's impact was minimized.
I'm glad someone brought this up. Since wade doesn't have that williams or ted washington type of nt,he run blitz a lot to fill the hole. Cody nor mitchell is stout enough to push the pocket or force double teams inside. So wade slant the front and basically create a 1 gap defense like the old bucs. If he had that dude, he wouldn't slant the front and would allow the front 3 to stay standard more. That's why I think john jenkins or georgia and chase thomas in the 2nd and 3rd rd would be golden.

Jenkins is the big,stout nt who actually has good movement and has a power strike against guards and centers. Chase thomas from stanford is similar to cushing. He's probably not as atheltic,but he's super smart,plays hard,and was a pass rusher. Put him inside as the force player next to cushing and now the inside triangle of jenkins-thomas-cushing is hard to penetrate. It also gives wade more blitz options.
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I'm glad someone brought this up. Since wade doesn't have that williams or ted washington type of nt,he run blitz a lot to fill the hole. Cody nor mitchell is stout enough to push the pocket or force double teams inside. So wade slant the front and basically create a 1 gap defense like the old bucs. If he had that dude, he wouldn't slant the front and would allow the front 3 to stay standard more. That's why I think john jenkins or georgia and chase thomas in the 2nd and 3rd rd would be golden.

Jenkins is the big,stout nt who actually has good movement and has a power strike against guards and centers. Chase thomas from stanford is similar to cushing. He's probably not as atheltic,but he's super smart,plays hard,and was a pass rusher. Put him inside as the force player next to cushing and now the inside triangle of jenkins-thomas-cushing is hard to penetrate. It also gives wade more blitz options.
T difference betweeen the Ravens and the Texans defense playing the Patriots was that the Ravens front 7 stayed with their gaps- the Texans shot up field alot because they were too aggressive.
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Long time lurker since last season and Ravens fan in Houston ....

Personally, I did not want to see the Texans in the playoffs. Too many mismatches between our offense and your defense. I much preferred to face NE. Flacco in particular matches up very well with that defense.

The Texans remind me of the Ravens in many ways and I think y'all are on yuor way to greatness.

IMHO, I do think Kubiac holds you back. I also think Schaub is not the answer for you guys at QB. Fix those two things, and y'all will be perennial contenders.

And as far as fan bases go, you guys are top notch. I've been to three games now at Reliant and felt welcome every time. Nothing but class from you fine folks!
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Long time lurker since last season and Ravens fan in Houston ....

Personally, I did not want to see the Texans in the playoffs. Too many mismatches between our offense and your defense. I much preferred to face NE. Flacco in particular matches up very well with that defense.

The Texans remind me of the Ravens in many ways and I think y'all are on yuor way to greatness.

IMHO, I do think Kubiac holds you back. I also think Schaub is not the answer for you guys at QB. Fix those two things, and y'all will be perennial contenders.

And as far as fan bases go, you guys are top notch. I've been to three games now at Reliant and felt welcome every time. Nothing but class from you fine folks!
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