ravens/ texans

[ATXtexanfan]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Forget Schaub. Compare how the two defenses performed. Which team looked like they knew what they hell they were doing? I don't seem to recall seeing the Ravens being bamboozled by the Patriots no-huddle at all. And for those of you saying that it was all on Brian Cushing, recall that the Ravens best cover corner, Ladarius Webb, was out for the season in October. And Haloti Ngata, Terrell Suggs and Ray Lewis have all been hurt and hobbled this year. The Texans got one of the best seasons ever from JJ Watt and they still got 42 and 41 dropped on them by the Patriots with no apparent adjustments. Wade Phillips is as big a problem as Gary Kubiak, or Matt Schaub.

Well the niners gave the pats 34. Oh wait the niners scored 41. The niners in the bowl

[stingray]

Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

He also outscored manning then Brady. He also never fell behind more than two scores. he also scored tds and not fgs. you done?

Geezz, I wonder why he never fell behind more than two scores? Would that have anything to do with the DEFENSE? huh? Because surely Flacco played subpar in the first half of todays game but by some miracle of god, the ravens D held through and kept Brady in check. Do you think that had something to do with Flacco not getting down by more than two scores?

[Nawzer]

Flacco made some great throws tonight that I don't think I've seen Schaub make in a very long time. The endzone pass to Boldin was beautifully executed and I don't think I've ever seen Schaub make a throw like that to AJ in recent memory. Flacco also has a cannon for an arm which Schaub can't just develop all of a sudden. Schaub is who is who he is. Our best chance is to build a defense like th 49'ers and Ravens, add more playmakers on offense, and tweak the offense so that we're not so predictable.

[Textan]

Originally Posted by Lurvinator11

Here's a thought.

Remember when Flacco just wasn't the QB for Baltimore? Many of us said this last year, but he turned it up and had a few good games.

Sounds like how we are with Schaub now. What if, and trust me, this is a big WHAT IF, but what if, Schaub does this next season?

I mean, anything is possible.

Flacco's what 27 years of age. Schaub's 31 or so with a gnarly foot, no athletic ability whatsoever, and a girly arm. I don't see him rising to the level Flacco's achieved.
Plus, in the two play off games I've watched Schaub he looked anything but Flacco-like, basically choking. Choked against Green Bay and the Pats during the regular season too.
But I agree with the The Third Man, Texans looked confused, disorientated, bedazzled both times they played New England.
Preparation and coaching. Texans are extremely outclassed in that category when facing these elite teams. Ravens looked cool as can be out there tonight.

[ATXtexanfan]

Originally Posted by stingray

Geezz, I wonder why he never fell behind more than two scores? Would that have anything to do with the DEFENSE? huh? Because surely Flacco played subpar in the first half of todays game but by some miracle of god, the ravens D held through and kept Brady in check. Do you think that had something to do with Flacco not getting down by more than two scores?

So if schaub were a raven they would be in the superbowl? Lord knows flacco had problems in that wind. How would schaubs noodle have done

[DocBar]

Schaub plays scared in big games. Scared money rarely wins. Either Schaub or Kubiak doesn't have the balls to let it all hang out when it counts. I'm still not convinced that all of Schaub's poor play is on him. I think a lot of it is Kubiak's influence/orders.

We got thoroughly outcoached and outplayed in two games against the Pats. It's hard to believe the Texans dominated the Ravens so much and played so poorly against the Pats.

[stingray]

Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

So if schaub were a raven they would be in the superbowl? Lord knows flacco had problems in that wind. How would schaubs noodle have done

Good question, probably not. But i don't think the Texans would be in the Super Bowl with Flacco either, and that's my point.

[ATXtexanfan]

Originally Posted by stingray

Good question, probably not. But i don't think the Texans would be in the Super Bowl with Flacco either, and that's my point.

Well would open.things up.downfield cause of his arm. Thus opening the TE game and running game. A lot easier to defend 25 yds than the length of the field. Stop arain then make schaub beat you. It's that simple. Stop rice and flacco can beat you.

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by stingray

Geezz, I wonder why he never fell behind more than two scores? Would that have anything to do with the DEFENSE? huh? Because surely Flacco played subpar in the first half of todays game but by some miracle of god, the ravens D held through and kept Brady in check. Do you think that had something to do with Flacco not getting down by more than two scores?

I still don't quite understand why Wade gets such a pass by so many people in this forum???

[stingray]

Originally Posted by dream_team

I still don't quite understand why Wade gets such a pass by so many people in this forum???

I still don't get either. Shaub had his warts and all but I think the D failed in the playoffs just as much.

[dream_team]

Kind of funny how last season, in the playoffs, our defense totally embarrassed Flacco and made him look like he didn't belong in the NFL. We barely lost that game, and everyone was saying... "Only if we had Schaub..."

Opinions around here change so quickly after one season.

[Bulls on Parade]

Congrats to Bernard Pollard, Vonta Leach and Jacoby Jones. We should have, would have, could have kept them but oh well. I'm glad to see those guys chasing that Super Bowl ring. David Carr got his ring last year as a backup quarterback with the Giants. I'm only being sarcastic but yeah, they were former Texans so I may just cheer for the Ravens in the Super Bowl.

I guess Bob McNair knows what type of guys we need. Another wide receiver right? Sigh... What we need is another beast on the defensive line like Margus Hunt from SMU. He's a J.J. Watt clone and a flat out monster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPvfNrj8uu0

That is what we need. Plain and simple.

Along with Brian Cushing being back healthy. I can't tell you what a boost that would be for our entire defense. It would have the same impact that the Ravens had when Ray Lewis returned.

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by stingray

I still don't get either. Shaub had his warts and all but I think the D failed in the playoffs just as much.

I agree... total team suckage all around.

[ATXtexanfan]

Originally Posted by dream_team

I still don't quite understand why Wade gets such a pass by so many people in this forum???

Cause our O was great and our D sucked almost historically. We now have a solid D and an O that can't score tds. Offense has regressed despite ballets. D top ten. Plus today was first time an O got hammered by a D in playoffs

[ATXtexanfan]

Originally Posted by dream_team

Kind of funny how last season, in the playoffs, our defense totally embarrassed Flacco and made him look like he didn't belong in the NFL. We barely lost that game, and everyone was saying... "Only if we had Schaub..."

Opinions around here change so quickly after one season.

Barely lost...... Lol. Ravens won. I guess we barely lost homefield this year despite beating ravens. Moral victories are fun. If we had schaub lost year we would have lost also.

[76Texan]

Besides the win over the Broncos, the Ravens never allowed more than 14 points in all the other "wins" by Flacco in the play-offs.

They barely allowed an average just over 10 points.

It's not all that hard to win with such a defense.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

He also outscored manning then Brady. He also never fell behind more than two scores. he also scored tds and not fgs. you done?

Regarding the Denver game, the Broncos wouldn't even have been in the game had it not been for Holliday's two TD returns. And tonight, Brady & Co. could only manage ONE offensive TD.

And, before I forget, the Ravens' defense produced three turnovers in each of those games.

Simply stated, their defense game thru both times. Not saying Flacco played poorly because he played better than I've seen him play. But their defense didn't give up a forty-burger to tom brady and only gave up 3 TDs to Manning.

Flacco was good, but without their defense stepping up in those games, he most likely would have lost.

[stingray]

Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

Cause our O was great and our D sucked almost historically. We now have a solid D and an O that can't score tds. Offense has regressed despite ballets. D top ten. Plus today was first time an O got hammered by a D in playoffs

Get your facts straight. Our offense was actually ranked higher than our defense in scoring. Offense was ranked 8th and our D was ranked 9th.

[Premier]

Originally Posted by Lurvinator11

Here's a thought.

Remember when Flacco just wasn't the QB for Baltimore? Many of us said this last year, but he turned it up and had a few good games.

Sounds like how we are with Schaub now. What if, and trust me, this is a big WHAT IF, but what if, Schaub does this next season?

I mean, anything is possible.

what sparks this line of thought other than being a blind homer hoping for this to happen..

flacco is 8-4 in the playoffs, matt wont even play 8 playoff games in his career. flacco is 28 years old and has played 12 playoff games already. flacco outplayed brady last season and was a dropped pass from being in the super bowl. flacco has showed an ability to beat good defenses with his arm. nothing at this point in schaub career makes me believe that he will ever come close to accomplishing what flacco has..

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by dream_team

I still don't quite understand why Wade gets such a pass by so many people in this forum???

Originally Posted by stingray

I still don't get either. Shaub had his warts and all but I think the D failed in the playoffs just as much.

I'm with you guys. 85 pts yielded in two games against Brady. Yet, everyone piles on Schaub for not being able to keep up with the alarming rate at which Wade's blessed defense was giving up points.