How did Ray Lewis go from murder suspect in 2000 to NFL royalty in 2013?

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

Athletes who are still playing their respective sports, with the notable exceptions of Dog Boy (Michael Vick) and Plaxico Burress are RARELY charged for any crime of which they're accused and in the rare instances when they ARE charged get feather-light slaps on the wrist.

I don't know whether Plaxico got charged light or ordinary. Vick actually got off light. What he ultimately confessed to the feds, i.e. almost an automatic conviction, was up to 25 years in state law violations and they decided not to prosecute at all.

[playa465]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

Sure sounds like committing murder is no biggie so long as you are Christian.

In fact, it sounds like so long as you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and ask for forgiveness, then you can get away with pretty much anything. Must be nice to see religion as a get out of jail free (literally) card.

*Just to be clear, I am not attacking Christianity/religion here. Only the idea posted above.

Not to get this too far into Christianity but what I think he means is yes you will be forgiven for your sins, however you must atone for what you have done. This is done through sacrifice, forgiveness of others, confession of sin and repentance. These things must take place in the eyes of God, not man.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by powda

On tangent...sorry...

Story I heard from an officer on scene was that the wifey made a trip to the galleria and spent almost a 1/4 million dollars on clothing, perfume, and other unnecessary crap. Warren flipped when he found out.

I'd have been pissed too! Not spousal battery pissed...but pissed.

[StarStruck]

Ray Lewis had a double murder occur in the master bedroom of his home but a friend who was at the party/get together went to prison for it. Ray was cleared of all charges as his friend fessed up and Ray testified against him.

Story I heard from an officer on scene was that the wifey made a trip to the galleria and spent almost a 1/4 million dollars on clothing, perfume, and other unnecessary crap. Warren flipped when he found out.

First time I head of these accounts. Heard a lot, but not these versions.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

Because he is a great player and charismatic. And because it was not proven that Ray-Ray did anything.

It sucks, but them's the breaks.

BULLSHYTE!!! He was convicted of "Obstruction of Justice"......

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

BULLSHYTE!!! He was convicted of "Obstruction of Justice"......

So he was convicted...of OJ?

[handswarmer]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

I don't know whether Plaxico got charged light or ordinary. Vick actually got off light. What he ultimately confessed to the feds, i.e. almost an automatic conviction, was up to 25 years in state law violations and they decided not to prosecute at all.

Te part of the Vick case lost on most people is that Vick was part of a huge gambling operation.

This was NOT lost on the NFL.

Burress got what the law called for- there was no 'play' in his sentence.

[dc_txtech]

Originally Posted by playa465

Not to get this too far into Christianity but what I think he means is yes you will be forgiven for your sins, however you must atone for what you have done. This is done through sacrifice, forgiveness of others, confession of sin and repentance. These things must take place in the eyes of God, not man.

I plan to repent on my death bed.

[Hookem Horns]

Originally Posted by Pollardized

Where did I say murder was ok? I said he is redeemed, he is forgiven for his sins. Just like you, me and everyone else is when you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and ask for forgiveness.

Question, if he were innocent why would he need to be forgiven by God for this crime?

If he is not innocent then how can he be forgiven by God if he is not repentant? To be forgiven the Bible says one must repent and turn around from his sin. Part of repenting is admitting your sin or guilt.

If Ray Lewis truly committed this crime and truly became a Christian, the first thing he would need to do to have a clear concience and standing before God would be to admit this heinous crime and turn himself in to the authorities. As a Christian he must render his "due to Cesar" and pay for his crime.

One can claim to be a Christian, accepted Jesus .. blah blah. However if you don't act in harmony with your belief it means nothing. Merely claming the latter is not some magical get out of jail free card.

[Dread-Head]

Originally Posted by Hookem Horns

Question, if he were innocent why would he need to be forgiven by God for this crime?

If he is not innocent then how can he be forgiven by God if he is not repentant? To be forgiven the Bible says one must repent and turn around from his sin. Part of repenting is admitting your sin or guilt.

If Ray Lewis truly committed this crime and truly became a Christian, the first thing he would need to do to have a clear concience and standing before God would be to admit this heinous crime and turn himself in to the authorities. As a Christian he must render his "due to Cesar" and pay for his crime.

One can claim to be a Christian, accepted Jesus .. blah blah. However if you don't act in harmony with your belief it means nothing. Merely claming the latter is not some magical get out of jail free card.

Funny thing about the "deathbed repentence" it only works if it's sincere. If you plan in advance to do it and hope to get in on a "technicality" it doesn't work.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by StarStruck

First time I head of these accounts. Heard a lot, but not these versions.

Apparently Warren was spending too much time with his koes and not enough time at home.

Are the Moons still married?

[Showtime100]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Apparently Warren was spending too much time with his koes and not enough time at home.

Are the Moons still married?

According to Wiki, Moon and the woman he allegedly abused, Felicia Fontenot Hendricks, married in 1981 and were divorced in 2002. He got married to somebody else in 2007.

[StarStruck]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Apparently Warren was spending too much time with his koes and not enough time at home.

Are the Moons still married?

Yeah, I heard that she was sitting in the gazebo reading her bible mid morning, and he comes home from heaven knows where, acting a fool. No, they have been divorced for some time now.

[Dread-Head]

Long story short:

a. He ALLEGEDLY killed two people at the beginning of his career rather than the end of it.

b. Both of the people he ALLEGEDLY killed were black.

Odd. The two people were dead IN HIS HOUSE...but he didn't go on trial OR face a grand jury. O.J's ex was killed across town and he was the PRIME suspect. Must be nice to be Ray.

[handswarmer]

Originally Posted by Dread-Head

Long story short:

a. He ALLEGEDLY killed two people at the beginning of his career rather than the end of it.

b. Both of the people he ALLEGEDLY killed were black.

Odd. The two people were dead IN HIS HOUSE...but he didn't go on trial OR face a grand jury. O.J's ex was killed across town and he was the PRIME suspect. Must be nice to be Ray.

Ray's house is a bar in a seedy Atlanta neighborhood?

Odd- considering he is from Lakelad Fla and lives in Miami, Fla....

Maybe you should hit up Google to read up n the facts of the case.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Ray's house is a bar in a seedy Atlanta neighborhood?

Odd- considering he is from Lakelad Fla and lives in Miami, Fla....

Maybe you should hit up Google to read up n the facts of the case.

Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story,

[wildroot]

Ray Lewis and Rae Carruth got in a jam within months of each other...guess Lewis had a better lawyer. Carruth ought to be out soon.

[StarStruck]

Originally Posted by wildroot

Ray Lewis and Rae Carruth got in a jam within months of each other...guess Lewis had a better lawyer. Carruth ought to be out soon.

Neither situation should have happened. IMO, and IMO only, I see a big difference in a person setting up his pregnant girlfriend to be murdered after taking her out and pretending to be someone special in her life. Then only within minutes s him he saw him giving hit men the nod for murder which if plan would have worked, both her and the unborn child would hid died immediately.

From my understanding the the Lewis case, they were all at a private club. Something went down, and a fight broke out. I read that the shorter of the two that were killed (5'2") tipped up behind one of the men in Lewis group and broke a champagne bottle on the back of his head, then took off running. From that point things got really ugly and what spilled into the street turned out to be a double homicide. Earlier reports said that Lewis was seen hitting one of the two in the stomach, but one of his friends was one that was seen with the knife. If Lewis hit and his friend used a knife, he would still end up with blood on his clothing. Certainly, if Lewis himself used the knife also he would have blood on his clothing.

If he told his friends to keep their mouths closed, that is no more than another way of stating Miranda rights. Whatever truly occurred, I'm sure there are many regrets. I've read that the two murdered victims that been heavily involved in criminal activities and were trying to turn their lives around, and I only wish they would have been successful.

[2012Champs]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Ray's house is a bar in a seedy Atlanta neighborhood?

Odd- considering he is from Lakelad Fla and lives in Miami, Fla....

Maybe you should hit up Google to read up n the facts of the case.

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Dont let the facts get in the way of a good story,

This cracked me up, nicley played guys

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by handswarmer

Ray's house is a bar in a seedy Atlanta neighborhood?

Odd- considering he is from Lakelad Fla and lives in Miami, Fla....

Maybe you should hit up Google to read up n the facts of the case.

I'm trying to remember what story it was that had two people dead in a house.

Obviously not Ray Lewis, but not sure if it was an athlete or some other kind of entertainer.

It rings a bell, but I could not find anything on Google without much details.

Maybe it was someone in the music industry?