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Old 01-17-2013   #141
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Sad but true.

How did Wade get hired?

He was an outsider.
Uncle Bob demanded it.
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It would be stupid not to. He gives you the best chance to win.

If Hartman and Bullock aren't our starters next year I will be dissapointed.
Hartman sued the team, I'd be real surprised if he's back. Bullock I expect to be the starter.
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Hartman sued the team, I'd be real surprised if he's back. Bullock I expect to be the starter.
He didn't sue the team. It was the company in charge of the field. Not the actual texans organization.
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But honestly, I think the guy's job was safe AND IS safe no matter what.

It's The Kubiak Way. If you're on the Kubiak Express, if your ticket is punched, you get to ride the whole way. No stops, no layovers. You're IN.
I don't know... we had no problems firing Rich Smith & Frank Bush. From his last press conference and the Kubiak Show, he sounded very unhappy how special teams performed this season. I'd bet Marciano's days are almost over.
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Met Marciano's brother and sister-n-law at a sports bar named "the Pub" at the MC hotel in Vegas over the past weekend. Real nice couple.
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Old 01-17-2013   #146
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Has this clown been fired yet?
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Joe is very nice I first met him at training camp in 2002. He has a special needs child and always comes over to me at practice and talks.
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Joe is very nice I first met him at training camp in 2002. He has a special needs child and always comes over to me at practice and talks.
Gary, lots of people are nice and have great families and are great people, but we also need someone that's a good special teams coach. We are struggling on special teams now for at least 2 years.

He needs to pick it up or we need a new coach.
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Sad but true.

How did Wade get hired?

He was an outsider.
All it took was one of the worst defensive seasons in history.
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Joe is very nice I first met him at training camp in 2002. He has a special needs child and always comes over to me at practice and talks.
I wasn't speaking about the man himself, Gary, just his coaching abilities, or more specifically his inability to adapt to today's game.
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is this dude fired yet

a good special teams is the biggest need on this team IMO look what happend to San deigo that one year bad ST cost them the entire season
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Old 01-18-2013   #152
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One of my fears is that special team play was good enough in NE game to get Joe another year.

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I think that NE game saved Marciano.

But you do have to wonder if the returners (trindon included) just werent getting it done back there since manning was able to bust two big ones with relative eased. He looked like he reads it better and is more patient that the other guys we've put back there.
It's this.

And it wasn't just the insertion of Manning; I heard, during the telecast of the game, that Joe was also given a couple of new guys, Keo and someone else who's name eludes my memory, that were better, more decisive, ST blockers and those additions - plus Manning - to the KO team made the STs more effective in the N.E. game. I know I saw definite lanes open up for Manning to exploit and he wasted no time in busting thru them for those big run backs.

I'll also add that a couple of us wanted Manning to run back kicks all season long. But the majority of folks on this board didn't want to risk him getting hurt and us having to be without him in the secondary. I remember folks going back and forth about it and mentioning that Manning never got hurt running back kicks. He got hurt playing safety. I still think he's the best, most instinctive, returner on the team.
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and i still think they wont risk him returing next year UNLESSSSS bye week 3 the returner does realllyyyy poorly who ever that might be
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Lions agree to terms with John Bonamego as special teams coordinator

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Actually in the playoffs, they inserted more starters in the special teams units.

I noticed Quin, Manning, Walter all out there at times.
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Steelers hire Danny Smith as special teams coach

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Here's a piece of the Q & A that I believe answers our questions concerning Marciano.

John McClain
Q: You gave Kubiak a new three-year contract before this season. What do you like about Kubiak?

Bob McNair
A: I think he does a great job. He likes his coordinators and position coaches, and I do, too. He works hard. Hes organized. The players love playing for him. They have a lot of confidence in him.

That pretty much sums it up for me. The ol' loyal to a fault Kubiak strikes again. The ST's have been an issue for quite some time, but will continue to be ignored until either McNair wises up & steps in, ala Wade, or it becomes the lone factor in costing the Texans some games & potentially Kubiak's job. Until then kubiak will sit on his hands & be the good buddy while accepting mediocrity from one component of his team. After all, that is how championships are won.
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It's been 2+ weeks since our season ended. If they haven't fired Joe by now, they simply aren't. So, Joe gets the ol' participatory trophy from Kubes for his effort on leading our last in the league special teams unit. Congrats Joe!
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There is an old saying that "cream rises to the top", with the obvious metaphor that the best in any given endeavor usually comes out on top.

Well,what substance is it that does not rise to the top, but floats near the top but never actually makes it to the top. Whatever that substance is, that's the Texans right now.

By not holding obvious flaws accountable for failure, we should expect nothing greater than what we have seen so far. We can upgrade so many things, but when your QB and special teams are pedestrian in big games, then expect to float near the top but never be the top.
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This one I put on Mr. McNair. He knows Gary's flaws -- that he's loyal to a fault.

Bob should have had harsh words with Gary about special teams performance, decisions imo.
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