Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-15-2013   #1
gary
Hall of Fame
 
gary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Wheelchair
Age: 22
Posts: 21,653
Rep Power: 54086 gary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respectedgary is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to gary
Default Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Or will the team finally advance? Thoughts?
__________________
Without the strength to endure the crisis, one will not see the opportunity within. It is within the process of endurance that opportunity reveals itself.
Chin-Ning Chu -
gary is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #2
BullNation4Life
Hall of Fame
 
BullNation4Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cypress, Tx
Section: Living Room 77429
Posts: 3,263
Rep Power: 85971 BullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gary View Post
Or will the team finally advance? Thoughts?
No I think Kubiak will get them to an AFC Championship, even if by accident or inspite of his play calling...

Any further than that? Very seriously doubt it...
__________________


Ohhh, uh oh, it's Fitzmagic!....
BullNation4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #3
Thorn 
Dirty Old Man
 
Thorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston
Section: Restrained in the mental ward
Age: 63
Posts: 22,741
Rep Power: 318355 Thorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

As a head coach, Kubiak can win a Super Bowl ONLY if he has a talent filled team with no injuries.

Kubiak does not have what it takes to be a true head coach and improvise with the talent at hand. He just isn't and never will be. Which is why we'll probably have a dozen AFCS titles to our name and no trips to the Super Bowl.
__________________


"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne
Thorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #4
Vinny
shiny happy fan
 
Vinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 50
Posts: 21,847
Rep Power: 161784 Vinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by gary View Post
Or will the team finally advance? Thoughts?
he is supposed to be an offensive guru but it sure looks like the other NFL teams are driving sports cars while we ride Amish style. Watching the other teams ramp it up and go no huddle and actually attack down-field when they fall behind has me envious. Just watching the casual way this team was in fully mosey in that long 4th quarter drive was enough to harden my opinion on Schaubiak.
__________________
http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk


"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow
Vinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #5
Playoffs 
Subscribed Contributor
 
Playoffs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 16,464
Rep Power: 393216 Playoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respectedPlayoffs is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Didn't work out too well the last time a Houston owner fired the Head Coach after going to the playoffs.
Playoffs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #6
steelbtexan
Hall of Fame
 
steelbtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 52
Posts: 12,612
Rep Power: 125942 steelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Nope, Gary will always fill Reliant, until that stops happening dont expect much/if any changes.
steelbtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #7
Vinny
shiny happy fan
 
Vinny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 50
Posts: 21,847
Rep Power: 161784 Vinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respectedVinny is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Playoffs View Post
Didn't work out too well the last time a Houston owner fired the Head Coach after going to the playoffs.
Second best team in the league those years were the Oilers. The AFC title game was always the Super Bowl...Pittsburgh beating the NFC team was just a formality. This Texan team isn't that good.
__________________
http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk


"A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow
Vinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Old 01-15-2013   #8
steelbtexan
Hall of Fame
 
steelbtexan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 52
Posts: 12,612
Rep Power: 125942 steelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respectedsteelbtexan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Playoffs View Post
Didn't work out too well the last time a Houston owner fired the Head Coach after going to the playoffs.
Yep,

Living in fear of mistakes made in the past is going to make the future so much brighter. (Sarcasm)
steelbtexan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #9
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
 
The Pencil Neck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dallas, TX
Age: 53
Posts: 19,245
Rep Power: 354624 The Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respectedThe Pencil Neck is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Only if our owner is Bud Adams.

OR.

If we have a decade of 2nd round losses.

Take this objectively. Take the Texans out of the equation and think about other teams.

Would you have fired Mike Smith at Atlanta after getting to the playoffs several years in a row and losing their first game? Would you have fired Bill Cowher after years of not being able to "win the big one"? Would you have fired Tony Dungy for the same thing?

Before people jump on me and say "you're not mentioning Kubiak in the same sentence as Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy", yes... I am.

McNair wants to follow the Pittsburgh model. And part of that model is being patient with your coaches and general manager and allowing them to assemble the talent and build a franchise that will have a certain mind-set. The Steelers were very patient with Cowher. A lot of people in Pittsburgh wanted him fired because he couldn't win the big game.

We're a young organization and a young team. We're building tradition. We've had 3 winning seasons out of the last 4. We've been to the playoffs 2 seasons in a row and won our division 2 seasons in a row. We've gone 2-2 in playoff games the past 2 years. We took a slight step back this year (even though we have a better record). We have to learn how to improve as we re-tool and prepare for the next season.

Blowing this up now because some fans are frustrated with playcalling is... well... it's not smart and very short sighted.
__________________
Adoptee: #55 - Chris Myers.
The Pencil Neck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #10
Thorn 
Dirty Old Man
 
Thorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Houston
Section: Restrained in the mental ward
Age: 63
Posts: 22,741
Rep Power: 318355 Thorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respectedThorn is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Playoffs View Post
Didn't work out too well the last time a Houston owner fired the Head Coach after going to the playoffs.
Can't compare Kubiak and Bum Phillips. Bum was BY FAR the better coach, and more publicy popular. While some fans would be upset with Kubiak being fired, it'd probably have as much to do with any real avaliable prospects to replace him with than being upset he's gone.
__________________


"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne
Thorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #11
BullNation4Life
Hall of Fame
 
BullNation4Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cypress, Tx
Section: Living Room 77429
Posts: 3,263
Rep Power: 85971 BullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
Only if our owner is Bud Adams.

OR.

If we have a decade of 2nd round losses.

Take this objectively. Take the Texans out of the equation and think about other teams.

Would you have fired Mike Smith at Atlanta after getting to the playoffs several years in a row and losing their first game? Would you have fired Bill Cowher after years of not being able to "win the big one"? Would you have fired Tony Dungy for the same thing?

Before people jump on me and say "you're not mentioning Kubiak in the same sentence as Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy", yes... I am.

McNair wants to follow the Pittsburgh model. And part of that model is being patient with your coaches and general manager and allowing them to assemble the talent and build a franchise that will have a certain mind-set. The Steelers were very patient with Cowher. A lot of people in Pittsburgh wanted him fired because he couldn't win the big game.

We're a young organization and a young team. We're building tradition. We've had 3 winning seasons out of the last 4. We've been to the playoffs 2 seasons in a row and won our division 2 seasons in a row. We've gone 2-2 in playoff games the past 2 years. We took a slight step back this year (even though we have a better record). We have to learn how to improve as we re-tool and prepare for the next season.

Blowing this up now because some fans are frustrated with playcalling is... well... it's not smart and very short sighted.
Dungy did get fired for that reason though. Could get Tampa to the playoffs, but couldn't win the big one. Lost in the playoffs in 99-2000-2001 then got let go and went to Indy and Gruden came in, took Dungy's players and won a Super Bowl...

Cowher needed a QB, when he finally got one, Super Bowl...Had Mike Smith lost that game to Seattle, I think Blank would have started looking for other options...

I don't think the Texans have neither the coach nor the QB to win it all...
__________________


Ohhh, uh oh, it's Fitzmagic!....
BullNation4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #12
fiasco west
Hall of Fame
 
fiasco west's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,108
Rep Power: 25247 fiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respectedfiasco west is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck View Post
Only if our owner is Bud Adams.

OR.

If we have a decade of 2nd round losses.

Take this objectively. Take the Texans out of the equation and think about other teams.

Would you have fired Mike Smith at Atlanta after getting to the playoffs several years in a row and losing their first game? Would you have fired Bill Cowher after years of not being able to "win the big one"? Would you have fired Tony Dungy for the same thing?

Before people jump on me and say "you're not mentioning Kubiak in the same sentence as Bill Cowher and Tony Dungy", yes... I am.

McNair wants to follow the Pittsburgh model. And part of that model is being patient with your coaches and general manager and allowing them to assemble the talent and build a franchise that will have a certain mind-set. The Steelers were very patient with Cowher. A lot of people in Pittsburgh wanted him fired because he couldn't win the big game.

We're a young organization and a young team. We're building tradition. We've had 3 winning seasons out of the last 4. We've been to the playoffs 2 seasons in a row and won our division 2 seasons in a row. We've gone 2-2 in playoff games the past 2 years. We took a slight step back this year (even though we have a better record). We have to learn how to improve as we re-tool and prepare for the next season.

Blowing this up now because some fans are frustrated with playcalling is... well... it's not smart and very short sighted.
Rep for this.

__________________
"My second year is not going to be my best year in the NFL, I can promise you that. ~ J.J. Watt
fiasco west is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #13
ThaShark316
#28
 
ThaShark316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rosharon, TX
Age: 29
Posts: 2,410
Rep Power: 38175 ThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to ThaShark316
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullNation4Life View Post
Dungy did get fired for that reason though. Could get Tampa to the playoffs, but couldn't win the big one. Lost in the playoffs in 99-2000-2001 then got let go and went to Indy and Gruden came in, took Dungy's players and won a Super Bowl...

Cowher needed a QB, when he finally got one, Super Bowl...Had Mike Smith lost that game to Seattle, I think Blank would have started looking for other options...

I don't think the Texans have neither the coach nor the QB to win it all...
But see, Gruden was let go because of mediocrity...so was it coaching, or was it "They already had the players"? Take it from me, I was Bucs all day before the Texans came around. Dungy was unjustly fired, btw. But owners like Glazer are the worst kinds of owners to have.

Gruden never coached big time QBs. He turned QBs into much better players, but never got his hands on the elite of the elite. (Gannon was "ehh" before Gruden, for example)
__________________
Resident Gameday Thread Maker. Math enthusiast. Super-villain. Hater of at least 85% of Texan fans.
ThaShark316 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #14
BullNation4Life
Hall of Fame
 
BullNation4Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cypress, Tx
Section: Living Room 77429
Posts: 3,263
Rep Power: 85971 BullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShark316 View Post
But see, Gruden was let go because of mediocrity...so was it coaching, or was it "They already had the players"? Take it from me, I was Bucs all day before the Texans came around. Dungy was unjustly fired, btw. But owners like Glazer are the worst kinds of owners to have.

Gruden never coached big time QBs. He turned QBs into much better players, but never got his hands on the elite of the elite. (Gannon was "ehh" before Gruden, for example)
I can agree with that, but Dungy was fired because of the failures in the playoffs. That was the reason for his unjust firing...

If I am not mistaken, wasn't Gruden traded to the Bucs and not fired? Could have sworn Tampa had to give up picks to get Gruden out from under contract with the Raiders...
__________________


Ohhh, uh oh, it's Fitzmagic!....
BullNation4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #15
Specnatz
Site Contributor
 
Specnatz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 8,620
Rep Power: 3241 Specnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respectedSpecnatz is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullNation4Life View Post
Dungy did get fired for that reason though. Could get Tampa to the playoffs, but couldn't win the big one. Lost in the playoffs in 99-2000-2001 then got let go and went to Indy and Gruden came in, took Dungy's players and won a Super Bowl...

Cowher needed a QB, when he finally got one, Super Bowl...Had Mike Smith lost that game to Seattle, I think Blank would have started looking for other options...

I don't think the Texans have neither the coach nor the QB to win it all...
You forgot to mention he beat a Raiders team who he had coached the previous year. He knew the personnel and for the most part the schemes.
__________________
The Invisible Poster!
Cynic at work, do not mind me; move along nothing to see here!
Specnatz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #16
ThaShark316
#28
 
ThaShark316's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Rosharon, TX
Age: 29
Posts: 2,410
Rep Power: 38175 ThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respectedThaShark316 is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via AIM to ThaShark316
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullNation4Life View Post
I can agree with that, but Dungy was fired because of the failures in the playoffs. That was the reason for his unjust firing...

If I am not mistaken, wasn't Gruden traded to the Bucs and not fired? Could have sworn Tampa had to give up picks to get Gruden out from under contract with the Raiders...
Oh, not from the Raiders; from the Bucs. I should have been more specific, my bad.

Dungy got screwed. 99 the Bucs get robbed. 2000 and 2001, the Eagles owned them. Eventually (like Seattle and the Rockets), you figure out your main problem and destroy it.
__________________
Resident Gameday Thread Maker. Math enthusiast. Super-villain. Hater of at least 85% of Texan fans.
ThaShark316 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #17
BullNation4Life
Hall of Fame
 
BullNation4Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cypress, Tx
Section: Living Room 77429
Posts: 3,263
Rep Power: 85971 BullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShark316 View Post
Oh, not from the Raiders; from the Bucs. I should have been more specific, my bad.

Dungy got screwed. 99 the Bucs get robbed. 2000 and 2001, the Eagles owned them. Eventually (like Seattle and the Rockets), you figure out your main problem and destroy it.
Yes you are correct, Gruden basically lost control of the Ferrari and ran it up a tree in Tampa. Chris Simms? Really?

back to what Neck was saying, his statement was basically, don't give up on a young team. to which in a way, I agree. Texans are young, however, how long can you wait for this young talent to develop under this regime? Cowher was in Pitt for a very long time before getting to the dance and winning it.

I think, with Kubiak, it is a Catch 22. You wait too long, you have wasted the best years of your young players careers and nothing to show for it...Too soon, Kubiak goes to say, Denver, where I think he will eventually end up, and win it all and now you have fans saying, "Texans should have been patient"
__________________


Ohhh, uh oh, it's Fitzmagic!....
BullNation4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #18
Double Barrel
Modified Simian
 
Double Barrel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Onward, Upward, and back into the Trees
Section: Gridiron, Tx
Age: 48
Posts: 31,774
Rep Power: 406301 Double Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respectedDouble Barrel is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

The only "downfall of Kubiak" that I could ever envision would be the inevitable cycle that teams go through and McNair is forced to sacrifice his head coach due to an abysmal record.

I do not see McNair ever firing Kubiak after a playoff year. Never.

I think Kubiak is a good enough head coach to keep his team in the playoffs for awhile, though, which will keep him in the driver seat for many years to come.
__________________
"Football is only a diversion." ~ HOUSTON TEXANS
Double Barrel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #19
BullNation4Life
Hall of Fame
 
BullNation4Life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Cypress, Tx
Section: Living Room 77429
Posts: 3,263
Rep Power: 85971 BullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respectedBullNation4Life is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Barrel View Post
The only "downfall of Kubiak" that I could ever envision would be the inevitable cycle that teams go through and McNair is forced to sacrifice his head coach due to an abysmal record.

I do not see McNair ever firing Kubiak after a playoff year. Never.

I think Kubiak is a good enough head coach to keep his team in the playoffs for awhile, though, which will keep him in the driver seat for many years to come.
Ugh, so this is what Chicago Bears fans felt with 9 years of Lovie Smith....
__________________


Ohhh, uh oh, it's Fitzmagic!....
BullNation4Life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013   #20
welsh texan
Lest we forget
 
welsh texan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Llandudno, Wales
Age: 26
Posts: 1,632
Rep Power: 25589 welsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respectedwelsh texan is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: Second round losses ultimate downfall of Kubiak?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaShark316 View Post
owners like Glazer are the worst kinds of owners to have.
I've got to point out at this comment that the Glazers are on the verge of taking United to the next level over here though. You look at some of the transfer moves they've made, they've been bold in the transfer market time and again, and despite the uproar when they mortgaged the team to buy itself, a lot of the fans have now shut up because they see the money is being put in to keep the team winning. Wait and see in a few years once they've finished repaying the loans how quickly they'll expand that south stand at OT, it'll add over 20,000 extra seats taking the capacity up above 100k, at monumental cost due to them having to canter lever the entire thing backwards over a railway line and into the housing estate behind, yet as soon as they do that no other team on the planet will be able to compete with them financially.

Sound businessmen who find a way to invest in the team where it has an impact. Maybe they've taken their eye off the ball with the bucs somewhat over the past few years but then again the NFL franchises are set up to make a fortune regardless of success while a side like United have to stay at the top if they are to make money.

I don't see them panicking like abramovic or the sheiks at city just because Ferguson fell short in a given year. I really don't think you can berate them for changing to a HC that brought the fans an SB.
__________________
They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the gowing down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them.
welsh texan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger