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Old 01-14-2013   #41
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At the time it was correct, but that was pre-Wade.

BTW, I'm not hatin' on Kubiak or Schaub, but I'm ready to keep my post-season expectations low with both of them leading this team.

I don't know what came over me,well the beer, but his was the first time that I lost faith by early third quarter. Actually the first drive at half time and New England made their statement drive.

I said to my friend "the Texans are done." I won't hate on Matt but my feeling was "we won't win a Super Bowl with him at QB as long as he has to go up against an elite QB he doesn't have another gear
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At the time it was correct, but that was pre-Wade.

BTW, I'm not hatin' on Kubiak or Schaub, but I'm ready to keep my post-season expectations low with both of them leading this team.
well maybe in 3 yrs, you can come back and say this was correct...pre robert woods etc.. so you and every other fan can keep their 100% record of always being right alive
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Hey, let's go back to 1998 when Houston didn't even have an NFL team.
Man, I miss it, badly. I really liked not having a football team. The pleasure of just sitting in my chair and relaxing to just a plain ole good football game, the way it was really meant to be watched, was just awesome.

If McNair was up to moving the team to Los Angeles or wherever, I'd say the same thing I told Bud Adams. . .

. . . Don't let the door hit ya in the f'king ass.
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I'm thinking I'm going to take my 2 Schaub jerseys (one is a Carr retread) and change the name plates on them. I think I'm going to go with "NOPE"
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Man, I miss it, badly. I really liked not having a football team. The pleasure of just sitting in my chair and relaxing to just a plain ole good football game, the way it was really meant to be watched, was just awesome.

If McNair was up to moving the team to Los Angeles or wherever, I'd say the same thing I told Bud Adams. . .

. . . Don't let the door hit ya in the f'king ass.
Well just stop following the Texans and there, you no longer have a team.
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I heard his interview on 610 today and he seemed completely in denial or he's just a smug bastard. That overthrow to AJ in the end zone was apparently a "small window" according to Matt Sloth! This guy refuses to acknowledge any blame on his part and I've seen this pattern in his interviews where he refers to his mistakes as "we could've done this" or "we called the right play...blah blah blah". I've come to accept that we're stuck with Dumb and Dumber for the next 2 years at least and that's sad. This team has hit its ceiling in its current state. The defense may improve a bit and that'll be our only hope going into next year.
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Well just stop following the Texans and there, you no longer have a team.
Nope. Wish it were that simple, but if you're really a fan, you can't turn it off like a switch. It's like being condemned, stuck like chuck, and all that BS.
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I heard his interview on 610 today and he seemed completely in denial or he's just a smug bastard. That overthrow to AJ in the end zone was apparently a "small window" according to Matt Sloth! This guy refuses to acknowledge any blame on his part and I've seen this pattern in his interviews where he refers to his mistakes as "we could've done this" or "we called the right play...blah blah blah". I've come to accept that we're stuck with Dumb and Dumber for the next 2 years at least and that's sad. This team has hit its ceiling in its current state. The defense may improve a bit and that'll be our only hope going into next year.
That play in the 3rd quarter where he escaped a sack on a bootleg,
then had no one in his face for 15 yards, he decides to simply throw
the ball in the dirt.

He still had an opportunity to set and throw to open receivers, but
he quits under a little pressure. Say what you want about TJ not
being as good as Schaub. At least TJ competed EVERY SINGLE DOWN,
and didn't concede any of them. That's the part of Schaub's game that
pisses fans of competitive football off.
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I'd contend that the defense regressed just as much, if not more than the running game did from last year.
If not, more? YES!! The loss of Cushing was huge, but it doesn't bode well whenever you lose him, Bradie James is the leader of your defense with JJo being hampered by a groin injury?


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As they should!!!

CnD already suggested Schaub's possible regression!
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That post was a crack at Barwin being a hipster. Hipsters don't want to be mainstream, i.e. like popular things or go with the crowd.

I get it now , 15 sacks would have been mainstream .
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Of course they are going to tote the company line and say they have his back.

Nobody really expects any Texan to throw him under the bus now.
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I don't know what came over me,well the beer, but his was the first time that I lost faith by early third quarter. Actually the first drive at half time and New England made their statement drive.

I said to my friend "the Texans are done." I won't hate on Matt but my feeling was "we won't win a Super Bowl with him at QB as long as he has to go up against an elite QB he doesn't have another gear
Or why don't we say our defense can't beat an elite QB? You know... the guys that are actually supposed to be stoping the so-called elite QB?

The Ravens & 49ers didn't exactly "shut down" the opposing elite QB, but they did enough to contain them so the offense can keep up.
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Yes the defense regressed sometimes you get into a shoot out. And schaub or I should say this offense doesn't have another gear to jump too
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He still had an opportunity to set and throw to open receivers, but
he quits under a little pressure. Say what you want about TJ not
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and didn't concede any of them. That's the part of Schaub's game that
pisses fans of competitive football off.
This is true & has been true for at least the past two years. There have been games where Matt was able to channel his inner RG3, late in last year's Raider's game for one. We ended up not winning that game, because his last effort to win the game was an INT in the endzone, but that was a heck of a drive.

He used to make these plays all the time & was a big reason we won 9 games in 2009. He won a game or two in 2010 as well. But 2009, he did it more often.

That's been removed from his game for some reason & I don't know why. I don't think it's a physical issue. To me, it looks like it has been phased out of his game "until we need it" but Matt just can't "turn it on" when he needs to.

We've won a lot of games since then & he hasn't "needed" to play that way, so it's kinda hard to find fault. But I believe to beat a team like the Patriots, we're going to have to have plays made from the QB position.

Either that, or our run game is going to have to get better. It was pathetic vs New England & our defense is going to have to get better. Play from both the ILB & OLB positions were pathetic vs New England.

We need to force turnovers against the elite teams.
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Or why don't we say our defense can't beat an elite QB? You know... the guys that are actually supposed to be stoping the so-called elite QB?

The Ravens & 49ers didn't exactly "shut down" the opposing elite QB, but they did enough to contain them so the offense can keep up.
The points put up by the Texans offense last weekend (28) would have not been enough to beat any of the other winning playoff teams. The defense isn't blame-free, but the offense isn't good enough to score on pace with the other playoff teams.
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I dont remember Matt looking this pudgy in the past. Seeing him warming up without pads before one of the games I noticed a serious pair of man boobs this year. Were those always there? Because he looked fatter and slower than I can remember.
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I get it now , 15 sacks would have been mainstream .
No, no, no! NO! It's more complicated than that! 15 sacks when it's expectred of him is mainstream so he ain't gonna do it. As soon as you lose any expectation that he's going to do that he'll look around at the other DE/OLB's and decide that not sacking the QB enough is too mainstream. Then it's time to turn it on.... BAM! Barwin go BOOM! Conner's an enigma that way. He's always gonna zig when you think he's about to zag.
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Hey, let's go back to 1998 when Houston didn't even have an NFL team.

Isn't it just NICE to have a team? Quit bitching about everything else. We have a team now!

I think you kinda' missed my point, but that's okay.



Yep. It's everybody's fault, it's nobody's fault. Schaub is wonderful and we'll get 'em next year, Tiger.


Houston is going to be great/good next year. Cushing is going to be back and I think defense is gonna be fine. Qb still is a concern.
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Exactly.

Kubiak just did his press conference and he basically defended everybody. The oline is just young and needs to gel, the defense just didn't execute, special teams played good and finally took to the coaching.

Kubiak is loyal to his guys. He's proven this. Coaches, players...

He's indicating that not much is going to change. But we'll see...
Its coach speak. He isn't Rex Ryan, he's not going to be a blow hard and kill guys on this team. He'll do it in house. Just the coach he is. However, if changes aren't made then he made his bed, and can get the **** out.
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