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Old 01-14-2013   #321
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Not Matt. He needs to take the next train out of houston.
I think it should be the other way around. Kubiak deserves to get out of town more so than Shaub.
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And rightly so.
I have to tell you... as much as I would like to see Kubiak replaced, I have to agree that it would be fool hardy to fire a coach whose team posted a 12-4 record. There are many teams that would love that success.
I'm just wanting the Texans to become Champions of the NFL, and I have my doubts about Kubiak's capabilities at getting that job done.
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I think it should be the other way around. Kubiak deserves to get out of town more so than Shaub.
This team will never achieve greatness with either one. I would mortgage my house on that one.
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This team will never achieve greatness with either one. I would mortgage my house on that one.
but would you get a commission in doing so?
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Does anyone remember the Broncos game? I honestly thought we had our QB there for a second.
Do we even need to look back that far? When he felt he had to, he let the ball fly today. I saw a couple of throws he probably could have waited on, but by the time I looked back at Schaub, he was on his back.

Schaub has consitently looked good when we went with a hurry up offense. We have consistently not gone with a hurry up offense.

Schaub has consistently looked good when lined up 3+ WRs. We have consistently not lined up 3+ WRs.

& it's not just Schaub, but OD, Walter, AJ, Arian, they all look better when playing aggresively. Sure, there were a lot of "execution" problems when we run the "controlled" offense. But they have more space to catch & run when we put more receivers on the field.

I like Kubiak (been awhile since I said that & I don't know if I believe it) & I like the "control" philosophy, but when you've got a stable of stallions, don't treat them like mules.

I think we should let the offense run through Schaub & let Arian be our "back up" our safety valve. Running it through Arian & expecting Schaub to save us isn't working.
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He looks like a doofis.

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Im just about to the point i just want to see matt get shipped outta here just so some folks in here can see that the issues with this team are beyond him....that finding an upgrade isnt as easy as they think...im to the point im willing to see this team take a huge step back just so people can shut up.

We went thru this same stuff with mario last year...people swearing up and down that we'd be ok without him....how barwin was gonna step up....how we wont miss his production we can draft someone...blah blah blah....well a whole season later, our pass rush is pretty much trash outside of 1guy on the d-line and our starting olbs combined for a whopping 11 sacks between all 3....mario put up those numbers by himself....
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He looks like a doofis.

doofus is spelled with a u isn't it?
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schaub signed a contract extension last year sadly he aint going no where he will be right here agian next year
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Im just about to the point i just want to see matt get shipped outta here just so some folks in here can see that the issues with this team are beyond him....that finding an upgrade isnt as easy as they think...im to the point im willing to see this team take a huge step back just so people can shut up.

We went thru this same stuff with mario last year...people swearing up and down that we'd be ok without him....how barwin was gonna step up....how we wont miss his production we can draft someone...blah blah blah....well a whole season later, our pass rush is pretty much trash outside of 1guy on the d-line and our starting olbs combined for a whopping 11 sacks between all 3....mario put up those numbers by himself....
I completely agree with this. Who is the better option to Shaub? No one has an answer. Mario was the anchor of our defense and no one gave him credit for it. He commanded attention and it opened up a lot of easy tackles for Barwin and others.
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the sad thing is This year the QB Free agency and the QB class does not look that good

so yall want Schaub benched or out of town cool who do yall want to replace him ...????
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No reason IMO to have Schaub locked in as the #1 guy moving forward.
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I completely agree with this. Who is the better option to Shaub? No one has an answer. Mario was the anchor of our defense and no one gave him credit for it. He commanded attention and it opened up a lot of easy tackles for Barwin and others.
It was the same with the rockets and t-mac with fans In this city. people cried for 3-4 years about how t-mac wasnt doing this or that in the playoffs even though dudes numbers actually went up in those times...the rest of the team just couldn't do much to help him..so morey got him outta here and fans rejoiced in the streets. 3 years of lottery picks, a new coach, numerous failed advances towards other superstars and record setting dwindling attendance numbers later, we finally got that superstar....or so we think anyway. It remains to be seen if he'll be able to take us where we ultimately have been trying to go...his last foray in the playoffs though, he kinda disappeared...fans will never learn. I wonder if they'll turn on him too.
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I completely agree with this. Who is the better option to Shaub? No one has an answer. Mario was the anchor of our defense and no one gave him credit for it. He commanded attention and it opened up a lot of easy tackles for Barwin and others.
Mario was the anchor of our defense? Since when? He was supposed to be, but never could measure up. Watt is the anchor to our defense and what Mario was supposed to be. Barwin didn't have a great season until he played without Mario. The Texans never had a great defense until Mario wasn't on the field. Now he is sure lighting it up in Buffalo.
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Im just about to the point i just want to see matt get shipped outta here just so some folks in here can see that the issues with this team are beyond him....that finding an upgrade isnt as easy as they think...im to the point im willing to see this team take a huge step back just so people can shut up.

We went thru this same stuff with mario last year...people swearing up and down that we'd be ok without him....how barwin was gonna step up....how we wont miss his production we can draft someone...blah blah blah....well a whole season later, our pass rush is pretty much trash outside of 1guy on the d-line and our starting olbs combined for a whopping 11 sacks between all 3....mario put up those numbers by himself....
I almost agree with you... I hate seeing the Texans lose just to make a point.

I don't know why Schaub is the scapegoat here? Sure, he didin't have a great game, but are you seriously saying he's the #1 reason we lost this game? How about the defense giving up 41 points? The Patriots average 34 points/game, but somehow this top notch defense gives up even more? ILBs covering running backs? Not prepared for the hurry up offense? Harris covering their best receiver? They couldn't stop the Pats offense to even give the Texans a chance at a comeback.

I'm not blaming this game on the defense, but I'm just saying there's alot more problems on this team than just Schaub.
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I also am wondering if anybody really believed the Texans had a snowball's chance in a blast furnace of beating the Pats tonight. The better team clearly won the game.
At any rate all of our disgust is for naught. After a 12-4 season neither Schaub nor Kubiak are going anywhere
I did. I honestly thought Barwin was going to step up. I thought Kareem & Harris was going to shut down Welker. I thought Joseph or Manning was going to return one for 6. & I thought Arian was going to have a career day.

None of that happened & the only one who stepped up today was Schaub. The guy we knew couldn't do it on his own. I also thought Kubiak was gojng to step up and let it hang out, I'm most disappointed in him today.

Honestly, if Matt played like that in the Bengals game wouldnt you be satisfied with his performance? I know I would. Next to Brady he looked like hammered dog turd but that game would have beat Manning today.
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I did. I honestly thought Barwin was going to step up. I thought Kareem & Harris was going to shut down Welker. I thought Joseph or Manning was going to return one for 6. & I thought Arian was going to have a career day.

None of that happened & the only one who stepped up today was Schaub. The guy we knew couldn't do it on his own. I also thought Kubiak was gojng to step up and let it hang out, I'm most disappointed in him today.

Honestly, if Matt played like that in the Bengals game wouldnt you be satisfied with his performance? I know I would. Next to Brady he looked like hammered dog turd but that game would have beat Manning today.
Schaub... stepped up? I need some of what you're smoking.
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Schaub... stepped up? I need some of what you're smoking.
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Im just about to the point i just want to see matt get shipped outta here just so some folks in here can see that the issues with this team are beyond him....that finding an upgrade isnt as easy as they think...im to the point im willing to see this team take a huge step back just so people can shut up.

We went thru this same stuff with mario last year...people swearing up and down that we'd be ok without him....how barwin was gonna step up....how we wont miss his production we can draft someone...blah blah blah....well a whole season later, our pass rush is pretty much trash outside of 1guy on the d-line and our starting olbs combined for a whopping 11 sacks between all 3....mario put up those numbers by himself....

So true. You don't know what you have until it's gone... I think the same can be said about Kubiak if you look at what the Chargers did...or if the Falcons go on and win then same thing but opposite directions...

People were ready to get Mario out of here just because he's not a rah rah guy. He battles through injuries and actually looks worse because of that tendency to try to play through them.

But yeah, Mario is better than all of our other LBs not named Cushing by far. He looked even better in Wade's system too.

Too bad about the cap...personally though I'd rather give the big contract to Mario over Schaub. I mean our pass rush would be downright scary with him and Watt and Smith and it wouldn't even be fair.
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In the salary cap age, its impossible to build a team with no holes to cover up for the qb. The 49ers tried it last yr and almost worked until they went 1 for 13 on 3rd down. To me, qbs earn their money on 3rd down,red zone production. When you construct a plodding,methodical,ball control offense, you better convert 3rd downs and you better score tds. Matt Schaub has never been good in the red zone mainly because of his limitations. Unless you can draft a young andre, have a young gonzales,a top 5 ol, top 5 smotherin defense, you can't win big games in the playoffs with schaub.

I laughed a lot when posters said they would've beat ravens last with schaub as if they didn't see the regular season game. In the big moments, schaub is loking to fail. Look at that fumble tonight. He was trying to give up on the play, but somehow got out of it and still fumbled. Teams know if they put the game on schaub, he's gonna fail. If they pressure him, its either a negative play or a 0. Its not that hard, nor is the roster perfect, but its a lot better than 85 % of the rosters in the nfl.
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