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Old 01-13-2013   #41
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agree with all of that but this slow, plodding offense needs speed, speed, speed. It was embarrassing watching this team nickle and dime it down the field without any ability to go deep. They need a Speed WR and some quickness in the slot in a big way.
Nope. We will extend Walter's contract by 10 years $50 million b/c of his down field blocking ability. We will then cut DBrown's and Wade Smith due to cap restraints and draft and start some 6th and 7th round players to start in their place.
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agree with all of that but this slow, plodding offense needs speed, speed, speed. It was embarrassing watching this team nickle and dime it down the field without any ability to go deep. They need a Speed WR and some quickness in the slot in a big way.
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Yeah, we're slow. We're the Kevin Walter of offenses. Slow and steady wins the WC round as they say. I think we'll look at who is out there and maybe grab a guy like (about to throw up in my mouth a little) Jacoby Jones who has worn his welcome out somewhere but who is fast and maybe could stretch the field here and flourish in a new setting. Then we'll ignore him most of the year and keep throwing the ball to AJ, OD, and Walter.
All the rules have been bent to the offense the past decade and every team in the league is seeping with speed....except for us. Watching the Pats, the Seattle v Atlanta game and the Packer v 9er game reinforced the notion (to me) that we need to follow the trends in the league and exploit the rule changes like everyone else is trying to do. While offense are opening up (even with rookie QB's) we are plodding along in our 90's Bronco offense hoping todays game changing player would be Graham...a slow plodding possession TE.
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All the rules have been bent to the offense the past decade and every team in the league is seeping with speed....except for us. Watching the Pats, the Seattle v Atlanta game and the Packer v 9er game reinforced the notion (to me) that we need to follow the trends in the league and exploit the rule changes like everyone else is trying to do. While offense are opening up (even with rookie QB's) we are plodding along in our 90's Bronco offense hoping todays game changing player would be Graham...a slow plodding possession TE.
Yeah, agree with all of that. The thing about Graham is, I watched Gronkowski tear down the sideline like a WR and he looked faster than every single TE the Texans have ever had. That big guy in New Orleans (Graham oddly enough) looks the same way. Gigantic TE's that haul ass and look like slightly bigger and faster versions of Tony Gonzalez seem to be the direction things are going in. I was watching the game today and thinking the same thing you're talking about. The entire Patriots team seemed to be flying all over the field. They're fast, dare I say "Wicked fast". We looked like we were moving in slow motion on offense most of the day.

I think the game has passed Kubiak by just like it did Shanahan in Denver. Diminishing returns are in our future if we don't adjust.
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Fire Joe Marciano(sp)?

Jones and Holiday have shown he doesn't have what it takes.
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This is ridiculous. Luck in year 1 is the best QB in the AFC South. Worst part is he will only get better.
And his team will remain mediocre. They got a lot of miles on the Pagano train.
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All the rules have been bent to the offense the past decade and every team in the league is seeping with speed....except for us. Watching the Pats, the Seattle v Atlanta game and the Packer v 9er game reinforced the notion (to me) that we need to follow the trends in the league and exploit the rule changes like everyone else is trying to do. While offense are opening up (even with rookie QB's) we are plodding along in our 90's Bronco offense hoping todays game changing player would be Graham...a slow plodding possession TE.
Faster would be great. However, I wonder how much speed could be utilized when we have a qb with a pop gun arm who throws a miserable deep ball?

Marciano is goodbye.
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Sorry got off track.
Marciano does have to go. His units were not ready on game day. Penalties, effort, discipline.
They need a offensive playmaker preferably in FA .

I don't see Barwin back unless he takes an hometown discount. He was a zero this year.

Cody is also a maybe.
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Suggestions...

Could we get DeMeco back or draft Teo.

Sign/Draft a Legit WR.

CB Chris Gamble or DeAngelo Hall if the Redskins cut him for money reasons

DT Darnell Dockett
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Maybe?????

Offer Schaub to the Browns for a 1st, 3rd and Colt McCoy.

Keep TJ Yates.
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must build through the draft due to salary cap hell. maybe hope a veteran WR will play here next to Dre for the minimum.

they should pick an OL with the first pick, a WR with the 2nd, a LB/DB with the 3rd then best available after that, those are areas of need noticeable to even the most casual fan.
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Schaub isn't going anywhere. I don't see the point in discussing changing QBs with the 4 yr extensions.

Our best bet of getting better is getting a real #2 WR. We don't have it now and with Posey's injury I don't think he's going to be quite the same next season.

We will need to replace OLB (Barwin), possible GQ since his contract is up. We are going to lose a lot of players this offseason and we need to replace them with talent. WR has to be a top priority
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Perhaps a new ST coach? Perhaps a new OC? Perhaps a new RT? NT?
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Not a damn thing will happen.

I expect Marciano to be back, by gosh he just needs his guys to respond to his coachin' and handle their duties out there! I even think the Braman blocked punt for a TD, and Manning's performance today, will rally Kubiak behind Marciano.

Matt will start. Period. Yay.

Gary will run the offense.

Tate will be traded, that's the biggest move that will happen.
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A Gronkowski/Graham type player would get MONSTER numbers in this offense. Daniels as the #2 TE would be awesome.

Don't think a fast #2 WR is much use in this offense. Keyshawn Martin looks to be too slow to create seperation in the slot.
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Not a damn thing will happen.

I expect Marciano to be back, by gosh he just needs his guys to respond to his coachin' and handle their duties out there! I even think the Braman blocked punt for a TD, and Manning's performance today, will rally Kubiak behind Marciano.

Matt will start. Period. Yay.

Gary will run the offense.

Tate will be traded, that's the biggest move that will happen.
Agree because in McNair and Kubiak's mind any other change would be trauuuuumatic.
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A Gronkowski/Graham type player would get MONSTER numbers in this offense. Daniels as the #2 TE would be awesome.

Don't think a fast #2 WR is much use in this offense. Keyshawn Martin looks to be too slow to create seperation in the slot.

big disappointment personally for me this season.

i thought he would be our poor mans wes welker. get him in space and let him get YAC. sadly he never developed into that type of player.
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Schaub isn't going anywhere. I don't see the point in discussing changing QBs with the 4 yr extensions.
Your right...next season. Draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd round and groom him for the following year. Kubiak has kept all his eggs in schaub's basket long enough...if schaub works out great...not having an alternative option in place would be an injustice by kubiak.
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Schaub will be back and I'm ok with that. He's either going to step up and erase the doubts or he's going to further prove he's incapable. Would like the first result, would be fine with the second as that would hopefully be the nail in the coffin.

Wither way the season will be worth watching.
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Draft a CB and WR
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I'd like for us to fire Marciano, special teams coach. just wasnt good enough all year long. bit us in the butt at indy.

i don't know why shiloh keo or brandon harris got playing time. i know we're depleted but they do NOT deserve roster sports. harris lead our team in penalties and played half the year.

also i;d like to move on from sean cody. hilarious guy, great guy for the locker room. but i cant remember the last time ive seen him make a play.
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