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Old 01-13-2013   #61
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I'm VERY curious as to how the Ravens hide Ray Lewis next week when the Pats spread them out.

Surely they won't be stubborn and stick him man on man on the edge right?
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I'm VERY curious as to how the Ravens hide Ray Lewis next week when the Pats spread them out.

Surely they won't be stubborn and stick him man on man on the edge right?
they won't play as much man as we do
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I'm VERY curious as to how the Ravens hide Ray Lewis next week when the Pats spread them out.

Surely they won't be stubborn and stick him man on man on the edge right?
Ya, you won't see Ray Lewis or Ellerbe out wide against Shane Vareen ala Barrett Ruud and Bradie James. How Wade thought that would work is beyond me.
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Agreed. Not sure why, but the 2009 Schaub used to throw deep take a few chances. The 2012 Schaub looks to check down way too much. Seems like if Schaub sees deep safety play, he won't go deep. That tells me he has little confidence in his own arm strength. And what good is a QB who doesn't have faith in his own damned arm?
part...but alot is the play calling. you saw some gun slinging from schaub at the end.
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I'm VERY curious as to how the Ravens hide Ray Lewis next week when the Pats spread them out.

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It'll probably be ellerbe...he's pretty good in coverage.
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It'll probably be ellerbe...he's pretty good in coverage.
Not good enough to cover RB's and TE's when they line up out wide as WRs.
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The defense didn't get the job done, but if the offense wasn't so bad for long stretches it could have been a different story. 4 straight possessions after our great opening drive of 3 yards for 3 points and we punt 4 straight times. Get something more than a 2 and a half minute drive and put some touchdowns on the board and you limit what Brady can do. Keep him off the field and keep the ball out of his hands and you can keep them from scoring. They forced 4 3 and outs and 5 punts overall, but our offense can't capitalize. Our QB can't make plays with his feet and will throw the ball away on 3rd down instead of trying to make a play down the field. The only time we do throw it deep is on 3rd or 4th and 1 or 2.

It is the defenses responsibility to stop the other team from scoring. You aren't going to shut Tom Brady out, but you should be able to expect some help from your offense.
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well rodgers dont need AJS salary
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nor fosters
First of all, where's Rodgers ?

Secondly, if I'm not mistaken, the Packers spent more money on their receivers than us this year.

Lastly, Foster was not of help in this game as he was supposed to.
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The defense didn't get the job done, but if the offense wasn't so bad for long stretches it could have been a different story. 4 straight possessions after our great opening drive of 3 yards for 3 points and we punt 4 straight times. Get something more than a 2 and a half minute drive and put some touchdowns on the board and you limit what Brady can do. Keep him off the field and keep the ball out of his hands and you can keep them from scoring. They forced 4 3 and outs and 5 punts overall, but our offense can't capitalize. Our QB can't make plays with his feet and will throw the ball away on 3rd down instead of trying to make a play down the field. The only time we do throw it deep is on 3rd or 4th and 1 or 2.

It is the defenses responsibility to stop the other team from scoring. You aren't going to shut Tom Brady out, but you should be able to expect some help from your offense.
you're not going to win if you have to score more than forty something against a playoff patriots either.
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I will say, wtf did Wade keep blitzing on 3rd downs even though we consistently got burned for it.....he needs to learn to change his scheme some, the nfl is evolving and he is being left behind, as is Gary
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you're not going to win if you have to score more than forty something against a playoff patriots either.
No, but 10 of those points are a result of the INT by Schaub and the onside kick which I don't think is done if we had another score in there.
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No, but 10 of those points are a result of the INT by Schaub and the onside kick which I don't think is done if we had another score in there.
And we could have had a Td if Casey didn't drop that pass.
And we could
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And we could have had a Td if Casey didn't drop that pass.
And we could
We also could have had a TD if schaub didn't overthrow Andre the next play.

How many passes did welker drop?

Also, there's a good chance we don't even make it down there without the long kick return.

Texans had pretty good field position most if the game.
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if not for wade, schaubiak is at best an 8-8 team.. he either needs to leave or takeover. expose schaub for what he is. without a halfway decent defense we wont win the division..
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We also could have had a TD if schaub didn't overthrow Andre the next play.

How many passes did welker drop?

Also, there's a good chance we don't even make it down there without the long kick return.

Texans had pretty good field position most if the game.
Are we talking about the Texans offense or the Pats offense?

How many points did we score?
How many points did Peyton and Rodgers score?
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Are we talking about the Texans offense or the Pats offense?

How many points did we score?
How many points did Peyton and Rodgers score?
They lost, who cares?

You're happy to compare us to losing teams?
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They lost, who cares?

You're happy to compare us to losing teams?
Oh so Peyton and Rodgers can suck, but Schaub got crucified?

And BTW, the Pats still had better overall field position.
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First of all, Schaub has been exposed. He can't consistently make plays or even be expected to start a game on point. He is holding this offense back tremendously with his physical limitations and honestly his decision making.

We need to take a hard look at both Schaub.
I'm not a Schaub fan. I only defend him, because the commentary on him is just way out of whack right now. But Peyton Manning & Aaron Rogers both lost this weekend, if those two QB who won Super Bowls & MVPs can lose in the divisional round, then losing in the divisional round does not mean that Schaub can't win a Super Bowl.

Their teams scored more points... If our defense or special teams would have scored, we'd have scored as much as their teams did.

Schaub didn't play as poorly as Manning did.
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I think we've seen the best of wade's defenses....some glaring things have popped out...lb's on wr's continously...no real adjustments out at the half either...this is the exact same way his defenses have faired everywhere he's been..
I saw a LB defend a pass against WRs in the Washington game, the ravens game, & the Falcons game.

Those LBs could do it.... ours can't. Lbs on WRs isn't anything new. I'm most impressed about Brian Urlacher because of his ability to drop deep into coverage & defend WRs. Well, when he was younger.
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Oh so Peyton and Rodgers can suck, but Schaub got crucified?

And BTW, the Pats still had better overall field position.
Go back and read. I never compared our field position to the patriots. I said we had pretty good starting position On a lot of possessions. What the he'll does that statement have to do with the patriots?

And I still don't understand why you are ok with being like two losing teams.

If your point was that even great qb's struggle...well duh...

But let's not act like this game was an aberration for schaub.
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