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Old 01-12-2013   #81
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Exactly. We are looking for the Matt Schaub of the first 12 games, who had 21 tds and 9 ints when the team averaged 30ppg. Not the version from the the last 5 games who has thrown one td and 4 picks while the team averaged less than 17 ppg. We're asking Matt Schaub to man up and play like a good NFL QB again.
I never said that Schaub had been playing good as of late.

The fact that he was better in some games was helped by playing some poorer teams and that the D was playing great in some games.

What happened to all the turnovers by the D?

And y'all ought to know the word sarcasm
Do I have to put that smiliepalm every time I post something?

Schaub is Schaub and if he's your scapegoat then so be it.

Have fun at it
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Schaub is Schaub and if he's your scapegoat then so be it.

Have fun at it
The Texans haven't lost this game, yet. I am hoping that a scapegoat isn't required.
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The Texans haven't lost this game, yet. I am hoping that a scapegoat isn't required.
I hope so, too;I certainly do.
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this is on santa clause..hes been rigging patriots games in december as long as i can remember

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this is on santa clause..hes been rigging patriots games in december as long as i can remember

LOL, that's funny!
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he has spys planted on all sorts of teams, check this from seahawks

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Sorry, he's not even the GORN

He's good. One of the 4 best of 2012, but no.

Well if you look at the record you can make the argument that he is already the GOAT, Tied for most playoff wins with Montana, Montana has 1 more loss than Brady, 1 more SB appearance one more SB loss than Montana. 2nd highest winning % for playoff wins (Bradshaw highest) with QB's > 10 playoff starts.

As Far as the regular season it isn't close, Brady is 1 of 3 QB to win more than 70% of their NFL regular season starts, Montana and Staubach are the other 2, Brady leads with a .777, Staubach is at .745 (although he only has 85 ref season wins whereas Brady and Montana are over 125 wins), Montana has a .713 winning %. A Rogers is only at a .665 winning % and Manning at a .688.

Brady is head and shoulders above everyone else as a reg season QB.

Now IF he wins on Sunday he will have the highest winning % in the playoffs of all time for QB with > 10 playoff starts.

If he has another 4 average years he will have more wins that Farve and 50% more playoff wins than Montana.

IF IF IF (IOW I don't know it will happen) he wins another SB it isn't even close.

BTW So far Brady is 5-1 Conference Championship games, Montana was 4-3 in Conference Championship games.

The All Pro snub is the sort of slight that drives a competitor like Brady and other great Team athletes like B Russelll and M Jordan.


OH BTW the Pats D gave up the same number of points as the Texans this year, does their D suck also?
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Well if you look at the record you can make the argument that he is already the GOAT, Tied for most playoff wins with Montana, Montana has 1 more loss than Brady, 1 more SB appearance one more SB loss than Montana. 2nd highest winning % for playoff wins (Bradshaw highest) with QB's > 10 playoff starts.

As Far as the regular season it isn't close, Brady is 1 of 3 QB to win more than 70% of their NFL regular season starts, Montana and Staubach are the other 2, Brady leads with a .777, Staubach is at .745 (although he only has 85 ref season wins whereas Brady and Montana are over 125 wins), Montana has a .713 winning %. A Rogers is only at a .665 winning % and Manning at a .688.
Winning is a team accomplishment. You can't decide who the greatest QB of all time is based on wins or win percentage. According to what you've suggested, Marino & Moon aren't even in the conversation & they should be along with Cunningham, and a bunch of other QBs that were on teams that didn't have the success of Belichick.

The most winningest QB of all time? I'll give you that, but GOAT.... like I said, he's not even GORN.
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Brady has won 10 division titles of the 11 years he played a full season, none of his teammates played on all the division titles.

The winning % is off the charts, QB is the single most important position in team sports.

Brady will go down as the GOAT. He record will be undeniable.
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Brady has won 10 division titles of the 11 years he played a full season, none of his teammates played on all the division titles.
Let's start another thread about this ok? Here, we're supposed to be ragging on Matt Schaub.

Better yet, go to Patsfans, I'm sure you'll find more support for your argument. I'm on Patsfan too, I'll be more than happy to continue this over there.
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As Far as the regular season it isn't close, Brady is 1 of 3 QB to win more than 70% of their NFL regular season starts, Montana and Staubach are the other 2, Brady leads with a .777, Staubach is at .745 (although he only has 85 ref season wins whereas Brady and Montana are over 125 wins), Montana has a .713 winning %. A Rogers is only at a .665 winning % and Manning at a .688.
Just going to point out Staubach has fewer stats because he was a rookie at 27 years old after serving in the Navy.

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Winning is a team accomplishment. You can't decide who the greatest QB of all time is based on wins or win percentage. According to what you've suggested, Marino & Moon aren't even in the conversation & they should be along with Cunningham, and a bunch of other QBs that were on teams that didn't have the success of Belichick.

The most winningest QB of all time? I'll give you that, but GOAT.... like I said, he's not even GORN.
Marino can get in the conversation marginally. Moon and Cunningham shouldn't even be brought up. But I agree with your team accomplishment point. IMO Bradshaw is dramatically over rated because of his team.
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Honestly, this league has seen so many Russell Wilsons that I'd thought fans would give the guy a year or two before going gaga over them. Dude's got talent, but is there a coach out there that can maximize it over the long term?

I don't know, haven't seen him yet. A lot of Wilson's success, is because he's "new" & we just don't know what to expect from him from a defensive stand point. The league will figure him out. The same way they figured out Young, the same way they figured out Newman, the same way the figured out Romo, and Vick.

There are more Moons, & Rivers, Warners, and Cutlers that flirt with Success, than there are Randall Cunnnighams.

Think about it, we're starting to change our ideas now about who we thought Bradford, Stafford, Ryan, Flacco, & Newton are.
I would say Warner did more than flirt with success. 3 trips to a Super Bowl and 2 plays away from 3 wins there.
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This is why 76..... just like against the bengals the D is doing a hell of a job and the offense nothing.
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Schaub isn't dropping passes.
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But y is that ALL on schaub? U guys make zero sense. The defense has allowed 3 TD's where noone has lined up on the reciever...thats all on the defense..
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But y is that ALL on schaub? U guys make zero sense. The defense has allowed 3 TD's where noone has lined up on the reciever...thats all on the defense..
sure casey dropped a sure TD but then he over threw AJ, he has had more bad throws then drops so far.
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Our do you mean the drop by foster on 3rd down thrown 6 yards behind the first down ?
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sure casey dropped a sure TD but then he over threw AJ, he has had more bad throws then drops so far.


Ridiculous...no qb in the league puts the ball right on the money every single pass play. Your WR's have some culpability in completing the pass too. If they can get 2 hands on the ball, its a catchable ball. I seen flacco, ryan and wilson's WR's making plays for them...so far, schaub hasn't really had the same level of support.
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Go enjoy the game EU; quit being silly.
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Defense is looking silly..... Antonio looks like he's losing his cool, Barwin looks like he's trying too hard.

Don't know why Kareem let up on that big play... should have made the refs call the penalty.


Haven't seen alot from Hernandez or Lloyd. That's good.
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