[TMZ] Manziel poppin' bottles at a club

[GlassHalfFull]

Originally Posted by Rey

Manziel didn't hide from the media. Sumlin has a policy where he doesn't let freshmen talk to reporters.

He made an exception once he was considered a legit heismann candidate.

No, he waited until after the last regular season game. Manziel was allowed to talk to the media after the Missouri game.

20 year old kid. Tons of fame. How well would you handle it?

[Rey]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

Wasn't Johnny football arrest and charged with 3 crimes already? (Fighting some 50 year old man after his racist friend insulted him, and then giving the cops a fake id...)
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...nziel-arrested

I'm not defending selling secret pictures to TMZ, but at some point, 'famous' athletes need to grow up and realize that their actions garner attention. From the criminal charges to the scooby doo pictures, etc. Some NCAA players act like pros from an early stage and try to stay out of the public eye. Johnny Football seems to like the fame, and unfortunately, in our society, you get the good with the bad when you put yourself into that position.

You can definitely tell that Johnny likes his fun time.

I don't think anything is wrong with that as long as you can focus when its time to.

Only time will tell if he can find a good balance that will allow him continued success outside of his party life and public persona.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Rey

You can definitely tell that Johnny likes his fun time.

I don't think anything is wrong with that as long as you can focus when its time to.

Only time will tell if he can find a good balance that will allow him continued success outside of his party life and public persona.

I'd say he's off to a damn good start after being in the spotlight the past few weeks, winning the Heisman, doing TV shows and partying with hotties. Even after all those distractions he was ready to kick the **** out of OU. I think he'll be just fine.

[GlassHalfFull]

Originally Posted by Rey

You can definitely tell that Johnny likes his fun time.

I don't think anything is wrong with that as long as you can focus when its time to.

Only time will tell if he can find a good balance that will allow him continued success outside of his party life and public persona.

I agree with Dutch, I think he answered that question Friday night.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

Wasn't Johnny football arrest and charged with 3 crimes already? (Fighting some 50 year old man after his racist friend insulted him, and then giving the cops a fake id...)
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...nziel-arrested

I'm not defending selling secret pictures to TMZ, but at some point, 'famous' athletes need to grow up and realize that their actions garner attention. From the criminal charges to the scooby doo pictures, etc. Some NCAA players act like pros from an early stage and try to stay out of the public eye. Johnny Football seems to like the fame, and unfortunately, in our society, you get the good with the bad when you put yourself into that position.

Oh yeah, I'm sure the 120 other college QBs were at home reading their playbooks on Halloween night... LOL You say it like it's a bad thing, but honestly I think those pics are a boon for recruiting. College Station isn't exactly known for attracting hotties.

Care to fill me in on the "etc"? Aside from the preseason arrest, I'm not aware of any other marks on his record, besides irrational Longhorn fans bringing up issues with his extended family.

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by Rey

Manziel didn't hide from the media. Sumlin has a policy where he doesn't let freshmen talk to reporters.

He made an exception once he was considered a legit heismann candidate.

Yeah, I just remember hearing that he didn't talk to the media when the season was on, and I sort of liked that. Didn't know all the reasons or that is was a tam rule. Good for Sumlin. I like that policy.

[gtexan02]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

Oh yeah, I'm sure the 120 other college QBs were at home reading their playbooks on Halloween night... LOL

Care to fill me in on the "etc"? Aside from the preseason arrest, I'm not aware of any other marks on his record, besides irrational Longhorn fans bringing up issues with his extended family.

Instagram photos? We already saw one of them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...88--ncaaf.html

Here's a nice quote that I can get behind:

If Manziel wasn’t the Heisman Trophy winner no one would care. But Manziel needs to realize that he is the face of college football right now and he can’t post tweets like a 17-year-old recruit or an overpaid professional athlete.He's already gotten a lot of criticism about his courtside seats at the Mavericks-Heat NBA game and this is just another thing for people to complain about.
He should have fun. He’s a college kid. But in the end, there’s a time and a place to share your business and sometimes flashing dalla-dolla bills after a great run at the casino isn’t that time or that place.

What other college QBs are doing is irrelevant because they aren't as famous as he is. When you pose with strippers, its going to make headlines. Remember when Gronk posed with the playboy playmate and ended up getting scolded by the Pats?

I don't make excuses for famous people by age. If an 18 year old can be expected to have the maturity to volunteer and die for his country, expecting a 20 year old to possess some basic maturity isn't asking a lot.

I have no horse in this race. I'm not a longhorn or an Aggie. I legitimately like the kid. I just think defending him in the media with such vigor is a little over the top. He's famous. He knows he's famous. He likes the fame. And he is going to have to deal with the media reaction to the controversies that are going to surround him as long as he keeps putting himself in the spotlight.

Just simple personal responsibility. If he wants even a crack at an NFL career he needs to realize that character AND perceived character is something pro teams care about.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by gtexan02

Instagram photos? We already saw one of them.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...88--ncaaf.html

Here's a nice quote that I can get behind:

Sooooo, gambling legally in a casino is something he should hide? Being out on Halloween in public is something he should hide? Should he be tweeting pics of himself at home reading his Bible instead? C'mon, this is silly, either he's doing something wrong or he isn't. Aside from the arrest, I haven't seen anything to cause concern.

What other college QBs are doing is irrelevant because they aren't as famous as he is. When you pose with strippers, its going to make headlines. Remember when Gronk posed with the playboy playmate and ended up getting scolded by the Pats?

Whoa whoa whoa, strippers? Now this is news to me. Feel free to show me anything saying those Halloween chicks are strippers and not students. Comparing that to taking pics with a professional pornstar wearing your team's jersey is pretty low. Not really in the same ballpark.

I don't make excuses for famous people by age. If an 18 year old can be expected to have the maturity to volunteer and die for his country, expecting a 20 year old to possess some basic maturity isn't asking a lot.

Where am I making excuses? I'm saying he's fine to do whatever the hell he wants as long as it's legal. If he's getting money from boosters and gambling with it, then yeah that would be an issue, but I haven't seen anything like that. Feel free to fill me in on his other crimes or NCAA violations if you got anything.

I have no horse in this race. I'm not a longhorn or an Aggie. I legitimately like the kid. I just think defending him in the media with such vigor is a little over the top. He's famous. He knows he's famous. He likes the fame. And he is going to have to deal with the media reaction to the controversies that are going to surround him as long as he keeps putting himself in the spotlight.

Just simple personal responsibility. If he wants even a crack at an NFL career he needs to realize that character AND perceived character is something pro teams care about.

That last line sounds like something Kubiak would say... I'm personally not concerned about it, and I wouldn't knock a guy for having fun and enjoying the spotlight. Cam Newton got arrested for theft and kicked off the Florida football team, yet still went #1 overall, so I kind of doubt Manziel's flaws will hurt him in the grand scheme of things. Talent is more important than twitter pics.

[beerlover]

I would expect Manziel to put out Russell Wilson type performances when he comes into the league. Both are winners. Both are seasoned beyond their years yet both are still young & are entitled to mistakes while enjoying life as budding superstars.

[sakebomb]

The only thing I see wrong with the pic is the Miami Heat hat. Other than that carry on Manziel. Carry on.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

No, he waited until after the last regular season game. Manziel was allowed to talk to the media after the Missouri game.

20 year old kid. Tons of fame. How well would you handle it?

I'd have handled it just fine.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

I'd say he's off to a damn good start after being in the spotlight the past few weeks, winning the Heisman, doing TV shows and partying with hotties. Even after all those distractions he was ready to kick the **** out of OU. I think he'll be just fine.

I'm talking about the long haul. Vy appeared to have been able to handle all that stuff too.

College is not hard for talented guys like that. He could probably party all night and perform just fine in a game the next day.

[htownfan32]

Yeesh. You realize Manziel tried to break up the fight between his friend and the other guy, and the other guy wouldn't stop throwing punches so they got into it, right? And he had a fake ID, but hell. He's not smoking pot or snorting crack or shooting up heroin or something. In the Scooby Doo pics he's with girls at a halloween party. Not strippers. Probably students. Big deal. What's he supposed to be doing, wearing monk robes and practicing celibacy? It's not like it affected his prep for games.

He's not a thug, he's not a criminal. He's a guy who's really damn good at his sport, really famous, and maybe just a little immature, but are you going to attack every twenty year old for being immature? He's in college. If he's this way in the pros, that may be concerning, but so long as it's harmless stuff I see no reason to rag on him.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by gg no re

Yes, he's not 21 yet. He is Johnny Footballin' though.




link: http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/06/johnny...ampagne-photo/

If it hasn't been said before, this is not Texans Worthy.

[htownfan32]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

If it hasn't been said before, this is not Texans Worthy.

So long as he's not divisive in the locker room and gives 100% on the field, I don't think it matters. If the Texans were in the position, they'd take him in a heartbeat.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by htownfan32

So long as he's not divisive in the locker room and gives 100% on the field, I don't think it matters. If the Texans were in the position, they'd take him in a heartbeat.

Lighten up.

[texanhead08]

Its easy to point out aggie fans from the fans of other schools in this thread.

[Wolf]

Originally Posted by htownfan32

Yeesh. You realize Manziel tried to break up the fight between his friend and the other guy, and the other guy wouldn't stop throwing punches so they got into it, right? And he had a fake ID, but hell. He's not smoking pot or snorting crack or shooting up heroin or something. In the Scooby Doo pics he's with girls at a halloween party. Not strippers. Probably students. Big deal. What's he supposed to be doing, wearing monk robes and practicing celibacy? It's not like it affected his prep for games.

He's not a thug, he's not a criminal. He's a guy who's really damn good at his sport, really famous, and maybe just a little immature, but are you going to attack every twenty year old for being immature? He's in college. If he's this way in the pros, that may be concerning, but so long as it's harmless stuff I see no reason to rag on him.

Well hopefully he continues to mature. around Kerrville there were rumors about a Fredericksburg wal-mart when he was in high school

[htownfan32]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Lighten up.

I'm not sure where you thought I got mad. I'm just saying, the Texans don't go out of their way to draft saints, they tend to draft good locker room guys.

As for pointing out the Aggies here... well, I'm sure my avatar doesn't help.

[Stemp]

Manziel is well liked by both his teammates and players on other teams.

He's not a locker room distraction. All this is just noise and him chumming the waters for his haters.

someone posts pics of him at a private party (where his parents are in attendance BTW) and all the haters jump on him for underage drinking.

He posts a pic of him showing cash at an 18+ casino and the haters get their panties in a twist again.