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Old 01-07-2013   #221
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...its not that hard of a concept to understand that teams usually fail before they eventually win it all.. you have to build up some experience, schaub just popped his playoff cherry..
I think you understand the point very well. There is no more to say.
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The most important position in football is undeniably the QB. When our starting QB still hasn't show any signs of improvement in his first PA game is a legitimate reason for an outrage.

You called it a mediocre game by Schaub. I go as far as calling it his worst game of the season. Think about this:
The five most important elements in aiding a QB on a successful game is
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3) Defense creating three and outs from the opposing offense
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Schaub has ALL that going for him and yet STILL manage 1 TD drive!
In the NFL when an offense only score 1 TD that is a FAILED.
Worst game of the season? Are you nuts? We put up 20 on a top 5 defense.
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Worst game of the season? Are you nuts? We put up 20 on a top 5 defense.
It was 19 pts not 20 but I spot you that extra point anyway since producing 20 when our defense keep giving you the ball back and Foster making enough plays to keep the Cincy D honest and yet Schaub still managed one attempt in the EZ to AJ. That seems like a gameplan of a scared QB.
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The most important position in football is undeniably the QB. When our starting QB still hasn't show any signs of improvement in his first PA game is a legitimate reason for an outrage.

You called it a mediocre game by Schaub. I go as far as calling it his worst game of the season. Think about this:
The five most important elements in aiding a QB on a successful game is
1) Protection
2) Good running game
3) Defense creating three and outs from the opposing offense
4) Good starting field position
5) Home crowd support

Schaub has ALL that going for him and yet STILL manage 1 TD drive!
In the NFL when an offense only score 1 TD that is a FAILED.

Go learn some NFL history and watch games like what Tom Brady had last season against the Ravens in the playoffs and you'll see a similar game. Matt Schaub only scored one TD. Let's throw a hissy fit over that and ignore that he made several nice plays on 3rd down. The worst game he had all season?? What an exaggeration. You ever watch an NFL team and watch other players other then the QB?? How about placing a little blame on these WR's that can't do a damn thing other then #81. Nope, that's being to fair. Just sign up for an account on TT.com just so you can bash Schaub because this offense isn't putting up 40 points against the top teams in the league.
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Go learn some NFL history and watch games like what Tom Brady had last season against the Ravens in the playoffs and you'll see a similar game. Matt Schaub only scored one TD. Let's throw a hissy fit over that and ignore that he made several nice plays on 3rd down. The worst game he had all season?? What an exaggeration. You ever watch an NFL team and watch other players other then the QB?? How about placing a little blame on these WR's that can't do a damn thing other then #81. Nope, that's being to fair. Just sign up for an account on TT.com just so you can bash Schaub because this offense isn't putting up 40 points against the top teams in the league.
How the man suppose to score when NE defense couldn't keep the Ravens offense off the field unlike Hou. Ravens had over 480+ yards in total offense and over 7 minutes in T.O.P. Schaub had over 17 min of T.O.P compare to Brady AND he had a more effective running game. He couldn't even utilize one of the best RB in the NFL at the top of his game to produce a single TD pass. And who says anything about scoring 40. All us Schaub basher wants is an extra TD to sealed the game. Shaub couldn't be in a more favorable spot to put the game away and instead we had to rely on an overthrown pass from Dalton to Green to save us that game.

Meanwhile GB blew out Minnesota while Rogers was running for his life all day AND with no running game to fallback on.
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19-7 over the last two seasons (with a stretch of 15-1) and 1-0 in the playoffs ...
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How the man suppose to score when NE defense couldn't keep the Ravens offense off the field unlike Hou. Ravens had over 480+ yards in total offense and over 7 minutes in T.O.P. Schaub had over 17 min of T.O.P compare to Brady AND he had a more effective running game. He couldn't even utilize one of the best RB in the NFL at the top of his game to produce a single TD pass. And who says anything about scoring 40. All us Schaub basher wants is an extra TD to sealed the game. Shaub couldn't be in a more favorable spot to put the game away and instead we had to rely on an overthrown pass from Dalton to Green to save us that game.

Meanwhile GB blew out Minnesota while Rogers was running for his life all day AND with no running game to fallback on.
How many QB's in the league do you think can do what Rodgers does? If there is a guy out there that we can grab and go after after this season, then feel free to let me know who. I don't know where we can go and get a guy that has all of the play making abilities like Rodgers. I thought that Schaub played a pretty good game the other day other then his INT and the failures to get TD scores. He got us up and down the field several times though. One time there was a TD pass that went off of AJ's hands. Sure it wasn't a good pass for how easy it was, but AJ could have had it. He should have had it. But that's okay, because it was a difficult catch none the less. But we didn't "not score" TD's all because of Schaub's inability to get us in the end zone. Just like we didn't get up the field all because of Schaub's passing abilities either. It took several parts of that offense to make it all work. Schaub isn't a superstar QB that can look flashy and make things look easy. No reason to expect him to be something he is not then It will just frustrate you. We have him now, and there probably won't be another guy taking snaps for a while.
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This is completely fair.

Schaub didn't play lights out, I don't think anyone will claim that. Claiming the Texans won DESPITE Schaub because our run game was rolling and our defense was playing well is ludicrous; you're penalizing someone for something because other aspects made it unnecessary.

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Schaub will need to play better to beat the Patriots. We know he is CAPABLE of that play, but he needs to find that play again, because he has not shown it as of late.

The TEAM itself also needs to elevate its play. This cannot be a repeat of 21-0 after three possessions.

Tom Brady and the Patriots are monsters in the playoffs and the Texans are severe underdogs; we CAN win, likely WON'T win.
I don't think I'm unfairly penalizing Schaub. Something has happened with him since the two OT games we won mid-season. I don't know if it's the foot, his conditioning (due to being out of football this same period of time LAST season) or what. Something is "less" than it had been prior to the two OT games.

Come to think about it, it could be the lack of him being on the field last season. His absence last season coincides with his lackluster play during roughly the same stretch of time THIS season. Right? Last year he was completely immobilized and out of the game altogether. In the last four or five weeks of 2012, he was navigating through territory he hadn't been into since 2010.

His sharpness of mind and his physical conditioning was accustomed to a shortened season. ???
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so by that logic, schaub was good enough to go 11-1, now we desperately need a qb?

blow it up.

eventually we'll find that elite qb.

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Meanwhile GB blew out Minnesota while Rogers was running for his life all day AND with no running game to fallback on.
Everyone needs to stop comparing Schaub to Rodgers, Brees, Brady & Manning. We know he isn't at their level, no one has ever claimed that. If anyone has any ideas how we can get a tier 1 QB, I'm all ears.
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Everyone needs to stop comparing Schaub to Rodgers, Brees, Brady & Manning. We know he isn't at their level, no one has ever claimed that. If anyone has any ideas how we can get a tier 1 QB, I'm all ears.
Go 2 - 14, the right year.
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Go 2 - 14, the right year.
Or hand over many many draft picks.
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Everyone needs to stop comparing Schaub to Rodgers, Brees, Brady & Manning. We know he isn't at their level, no one has ever claimed that. If anyone has any ideas how we can get a tier 1 QB, I'm all ears.
boooooo.


Yea lets not compare matt schaub to great qbs. lets compare him to joe flacoo and tony romo.

smdh....

Houstonians need to get off this path to perpetual mediocrity.


Why can we expect schaub to be as great as the other qbs?

even more important,

Why cant we start planning to draft and look for the qb of the future while schaub plays out his contract?

Why would that be so bad?
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I am not of the opinion that the current Houston Texans team is broadly talented enough to win a Super Bowl.

However, Matt Schaub delivered a win vs. a wild card team so I have to give him credit. I'm curious to see how differently he plays in the upcoming playoff game, as opposed to the December game vs. the Patriots.
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I am not of the opinion that the current Houston Texans team is broadly talented enough to win a Super Bowl.

However, Matt Schaub delivered a win vs. a wild card team so I have to give him credit. I'm curious to see how differently he plays in the upcoming payoff game, as opposed to the December game vs. the Patriots.
matt didnt deliver diddly squat vs the bengals.

andy dalton delivered that win by over throwing aj green for the game winning TD.

Matt did nothing but do his darnest to choke the game away by throwing inaccurate passes to his wide receivers.
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matt didnt deliver diddly squat vs the bengals.

andy dalton delivered that win by over throwing aj green for the game winning TD.

Matt did nothing but do his darnest to choke the game away by throwing inaccurate passes to his wide receivers.
I generally agree. I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt as the QB on the victorious team.

I don't think he as a chance in New England, but I hope to be proven wrong.
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matt didnt deliver diddly squat vs the bengals.

andy dalton delivered that win by over throwing aj green for the game winning TD.

Matt did nothing but do his darnest to choke the game away by throwing inaccurate passes to his wide receivers.
clearly, then, you must have even a lower opinion of Andy Dalton... sucks to be Cincinnati and stuck with that loser for the next several years.
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matt didnt deliver diddly squat vs the bengals.

andy dalton delivered that win by over throwing aj green for the game winning TD.

Matt did nothing but do his darnest to choke the game away by throwing inaccurate passes to his wide receivers.
Wow, and here I was thinking games consisted of more than one play? Why bother with the other 3+ hours if we can determine the winner in 10 seconds?
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Wow, and here I was thinking games consisted of more than one play? Why bother with the other 3+ hours if we can determine the winner in 10 seconds?
Heck.. get rid of the rest of the teams. Spot the QBs on the 40 yard line & let the QBs throw balls through tires in the endzone. The more accurate guy wins the game.

Save a lot of cap space.
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