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Old 01-06-2013   #41
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I suppose you could say that, but it ignores the fact that Baltimore was a top 5 pass defense and NE was 31st.
Tom Terrific didn't have too many problems with the Jets #5, Steelers #1 and the Chiefs #6 last year.
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Schaub's performance won't take the Texans far.
Yep, that's how I feel. I don't believe it's his fault. He's basically a heady QB with a serious lack of armstrength and no mobility.
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Yep, that's how I feel. I don't believe it's his fault. He's basically a heady QB with a serious lack of armstrength and no mobility.
I just feel as if he needs everything to be perfect to succeed. He wasn't stellar yesterday- he just channeled his inner T.J. Yates.
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I just feel as if he needs everything to be perfect to succeed. He wasn't stellar yesterday- he just channeled his inner T.J. Yates.
Yeah, he does try awefully hard not to take risks/make mistakes. I would too if I had to go against play-off calibre Ds with his arm (or mine).

I'm not a fan of Yates, until he learns a lot. He does have more physical ability, obviously.
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Yep, that's how I feel. I don't believe it's his fault. He's basically a heady QB with a serious lack of armstrength and no mobility.
Why is Schaub considered a heady QB. Does a heady QB make that throw to Casey? Does a heady QB zero in on one player all the time? Does a heady QB lose his cool and rush when there is no one around?
I am beginning to think MS is just the opposite of heady?
I just must miss all the pump fakes and looks he makes to redirect the DBs.
Is there a reason Matt does not have more flexibility at the line with play calls or is it just GK thinking he is always right?

I do agree 100% with the last part of your post?
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Why is Schaub considered a heady QB. Does a heady QB make that throw to Casey? Does a heady QB zero in on one player all the time? Does a heady QB lose his cool and rush when there is no one around?
I am beginning to think MS is just the opposite of heady?
I just must miss all the pump fakes and looks he makes to redirect the DBs.
Is there a reason Matt does not have more flexibility at the line with play calls or is it just GK thinking he is always right?

I do agree 100% with the last part of your post?
I just want to point out that some QBs considered as "heady" made some poor throws at times.

Consider Peyton's 3 INTs game.
How about Brees' 5 INTs game.
And they lost those games, of course.

Then if you watch Luck' play throughout the season.
Besides the INTs that he threw, there were other balls that were dropped by the Defenders when Luck threw the ball right at their numbers as if they were the ones who ran the route. Balls that looked like the one Schaub threw yesterday were also common, but luckily, the DBs didn't time it quite right, or they couldn't quite haul the ball in.

Schaub is not a great QB, but he's not a bad one either.
That is all I'm saying.
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Yep, that's how I feel. I don't believe it's his fault. He's basically a heady QB with a serious lack of armstrength and no mobility.
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I just want to point out that some QBs considered as "heady" made some poor throws at times.

Consider Peyton's 3 INTs game.
How about Brees' 5 INTs game.
And they lost those games, of course.

Then if you watch Luck' play throughout the season.
Besides the INTs that he threw, there were other balls that were dropped by the Defenders when Luck threw the ball right at their numbers as if they were the ones who ran the route. Balls that looked like the one Schaub threw yesterday were also common, but luckily, the DBs didn't time it quite right, or they couldn't quite haul the ball in.

Schaub is not a great QB, but he's not a bad one either.
That is all I'm saying
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Agree 100% with bold above . Sorry if you took offense to comment about heady.
i do consider the top 2 mentioned as heady. Luck I also think will be a heady QB in the future.

I did move Schaub ahead of Dalton in ranking.
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I have never, ever posted that I did not want the Texans to win. Ever.
Yeah, you did. The thread was deleted after you lied about telling other posters to commit suicide and then challenged me to a fight somewhere.

It's exactly why no one takes you seriously. You post trash like that, and then when you're called on it, you deny ever doing it. I guess your account just gets stolen every other day.

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Indeed and cited the massive benefits of picking 24th as opposed to 25th...
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I just want to point out that some QBs considered as "heady" made some poor throws at times.

Consider Peyton's 3 INTs game.
How about Brees' 5 INTs game.
And they lost those games, of course.

Then if you watch Luck' play throughout the season.
Besides the INTs that he threw, there were other balls that were dropped by the Defenders when Luck threw the ball right at their numbers as if they were the ones who ran the route. Balls that looked like the one Schaub threw yesterday were also common, but luckily, the DBs didn't time it quite right, or they couldn't quite haul the ball in.

Schaub is not a great QB, but he's not a bad one either.
That is all I'm saying.
That is a lie. Therefore you are a liar.

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No way you can put Schaub above Flacco.

Sorry, you just can't.
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No way you can put Schaub above Flacco.

Sorry, you just can't.
Its a wash.

Flacco has better are strength but is crazy inaccuarte.

Schaub has a noodle arm but has a better completion %

Neither can run but I would personally take Flacco
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No way you can put Schaub above Flacco.

Sorry, you just can't.
Ummmmm, yes you can.... While Schaub is no great shakes, neither is Flacco.... Flacco has beneifitted from way better teams. Thats it.
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Its a wash.

Flacco has better are strength but is crazy inaccuarte.

Schaub has a noodle arm but has a better completion %

Neither can run but I would personally take Flacco
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Ummmmm, yes you can.... While Schaub is no great shakes, neither is Flacco.... Flacco has beneifitted from way better teams. Thats it.
having AJ hasn't helped Schaub??? Texans defense is pretty good too. Ravens isn't. Yet Flacco wins...
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having AJ hasn't helped Schaub??? Texans defense is pretty good too. Ravens isn't. Yet Flacco wins...
Ummmm, the Texans defense is pretty good?? Perhaps you're not aware that over the last 7 or 8 games they've been ranked around 26 or 27th? If you really wanna be a respectable poster here on TexansTalk, (which is really cool) and you've been cool in the past..... Know that.

AJ.... As much as we love him here (borderline Earl or Bum status), he'll be the first to admit he's missed a few this season.
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having AJ hasn't helped Schaub??? Texans defense is pretty good too. Ravens isn't. Yet Flacco wins...
Of course AJ has helped Schaub and vice versa. Ravens D may not be as good this year but there is no doubt Flacco has benefited from better D's over the course of his career than Schaub. Flacco has also had Ray Rice his whole career while Schaub had no running game until Foster came along. And c'mon - he was just chucking and praying to Boldin last weekend. As someone above said, I would put them about on par - with very different skill sets. If forced to choose I would take Flacco mainly because of his age.
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Of course AJ has helped Schaub and vice versa. Ravens D may not be as good this year but there is no doubt Flacco has benefited from better D's over the course of his career than Schaub. Flacco has also had Ray Rice his whole career while Schaub had no running game until Foster came along. And c'mon - he was just chucking and praying to Boldin last weekend. As someone above said, I would put them about on par - with very different skill sets. If forced to choose I would take Flacco mainly because of his age.
ONLY....... ONLY because of Flaccos age. Otherwise, it's a wash.
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Of course AJ has helped Schaub and vice versa. Ravens D may not be as good this year but there is no doubt Flacco has benefited from better D's over the course of his career than Schaub. Flacco has also had Ray Rice his whole career while Schaub had no running game until Foster came along.
Yet Schaub has been more consistent. That's why I would rate Schaub over Flacco.

As far as potential goes, Flacco has him beat. But there's a lot of guys with more potential that hasn't been as consistently good as Schaub.
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Yet Schaub has been more consistent. That's why I would rate Schaub over Flacco.

As far as potential goes, Flacco has him beat. But there's a lot of guys with more potential that hasn't been as consistently good as Schaub.
It does seem like Schaub's worst football is starting to become more consistent. I am definitely starting to think that "cutting bait" by bringing in a better player for him will soon be a smart move, but I won't forget how consistent he has been over the years just because of a few bad games. That's why I can't respect the opinions of these guys that cheer for this guy all year long and even for several years, and say nothing when we're 6-1, 7-1, 8-,1, 9-1, and 10-1, but then the minute we drop two games all of a sudden he is worthless, a bottom feeder, a joke at the position, and etc. Schaub is the same guy that he has always been .
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Ummmm, the Texans defense is pretty good?? Perhaps you're not aware that over the last 7 or 8 games they've been ranked around 26 or 27th? If you really wanna be a respectable poster here on TexansTalk, (which is really cool) and you've been cool in the past..... Know that.

AJ.... As much as we love him here (borderline Earl or Bum status), he'll be the first to admit he's missed a few this season.
I am aware of ewhata has transpired over the last few games- I was talking about the totality of the last 2 years as far as the defense goes.

Foster has been pretty damn good, AJ and Daniels too....
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