Saturday is a Referendum of Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak's Careers Here in Houston

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Normal zone bootleg:



Schaub's bootleg:

lol. Must spread rep.

[gafftop]

I don't think yesterday's game proved anything.
We are lucky we played against a QB that was more MS than MS
and a Coach that was more GK than GK.

Brady and BB will be the test in New England.

[gafftop]

Originally Posted by ckhouston

Because we are running the bootleg with an immobile QB.

I know but he starts running backwards even before any body is chasing him.
He turns after the handoff and just starts drifting backwards. Is he gun shy?
Almost like a drawn out flinch.

[Surreal McCoy]

Saturday is a Referendum on the OPs thread starting privileges

There. Thread title that's much more relevant.

[Jules Winnfield]

Kubiak coached like Kubiak and Schaub played like Schaub.

They are what they are.

A mediocre coach and a mediocre quarterback.

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

Kubiak coached like Kubiak and Schaub played like Schaub.

They are what they are.

Playoff winners? Agreed. Glad to see you're coming round.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy

Playoff winners? Agreed. Glad to see you're coming round.

Don't forget Division Champs.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by GP

What? Aw geez.

Yeah, that couldn't have ANYTHING to do with those players wanting/requiring bigger contracts (I remember that being one of the reasons for a few moves, IIRC). Bud is cheap as hell, as evidenced by his attire.

Plus, he was carving that team out like a pumpkin because he was about to move it all to Nashville. He was mad at many things, one way to get back at the city of Houston was to move the team...which came after having destroyed the Oilers' roster and making sure we all knew who was boss.

I don't think he did this because he thought the fans WANTED it.

That's a bigger conspiracy theory than anything I can even think up, Obsi.

Originally Posted by ObsiWan
I wonder how many of these doom-sayers recall that Bud reacted like some fans are preaching and tore down a 12-4 Oilers team when they didn't make the Super Bowl. He sent Warren Moon packing off to Minnesota and went with the backup. We finished 2-14 the very next year.

So be careful what you wish for. I'll take half-steps forward to a gigantic crash & burn backwards just to make a change.

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Re-read my post. I never said Bud was reacting to what the fans back then were saying. My point was that some of you guys are reacting as Bud did back then. "Make the Super Bowl or I'm holding a fire sale."

I didn't make this up... It's well documented Oiler history.
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Some of you are suggesting the same strategy.
Fire the coach. Trade/sit the Schaub and start Yates or somebody. Start slinging the ball all around the yard.
We ain't built for that. We just are not.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Normal zone bootleg:



Schaub's bootleg:

As much as I hate to admit it, that's some funny stuff.
Repped.

[Big Lou]

Watching the Skins game today, on that 9 yard limping run by RG3, I couldn't help but think I guy with a sprained ACL is faster than Schaub by far.

What's Schaubs longest run, no way it's 9 yards, LOL. Now I'm not ready to burn Matt at the stake like some, but I'm 37, and out of shape, 20 bucks says I could give Matt a run for his money in the 40. Now I wouldn't be able to walk the next day, but what the hell.

[Big Lou]

Originally Posted by Big Lou

Watching the Skins game today, on that 9 yard limping run by RG3, I couldn't help but think I guy with a sprained ACL is faster than Schaub by far.

What's Schaubs longest run, no way it's 9 yards, LOL. Now I'm not ready to burn Matt at the stake like some, but I'm 37, and out of shape, 20 bucks says I could give Matt a run for his money in the 40. Now I wouldn't be able to walk the next day, but what the hell.

I stand corrected, Matt ran for 19 in 2009, and 10, in 2008, 12 in 2007. He was a regular RG3 Lite. I'm gonna start calling him MS1.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

As much as I hate to admit it, that's some funny stuff.
Repped.

I agree it is funny, but multiple times today Wilson's bootleg looked exactly like the Schaub diagram AND he was generally smart and threw it away when the play wasn't there. With all his extra mobility he took at least two totally unnecessary sacks.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by ckhouston

May be the rookie factor ...

undoubtedly yes its the rookie factor; he even knows not to force it in those situations. That's why it boggles my mind why so many get ticked and get mad at schaub when he does it..On those bootlegs you're only working with 1/2 a field to begin with.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

As much as I hate to admit it, that's some funny stuff.
Repped.

I know everyone is trying to be funny & everyone knows the reason why Schaub's bootleg looks like that more often than not lately, but I've just gotta say it.

Someone didn't get fooled. Either a DE, or a WR/LB on a shallow zone.

[Double Barrel]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

This is the kind of thinking that sent Bum Phillips out of Houston 32 years ago and the Oilers spiraling into obscurity.

MSR. Thank you, it needs to be said.

Bud Adams was a classless P.O.S. for doing that to Bum after taking his team to the playoffs.

Anyone that wants an owner like Bud can go elsewhere, because I feel confident in saying that McNair will NEVER fire his HC after taking the team to the playoffs. And thank god for that!

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

its time to start the process of looking for the future qb of the texans.

Are you in the Texans scouting department? Maybe an assistant coach with the Texans just blowing off steam?

Or, most likely, are you just another fan "demanding" things because you will...what...find another team? Call a sports talk radio to broadcast your demands? Exactly what action as a FAN are you planning to take in order to "start the process of looking for the future qb of the texans", because I'm sure other fans would love to take part in your master plan.

Okay, time for a reality check: Kubiak will be our head coach in 2013 and Schaub will be our starting QB in 2013.

Originally Posted by Showtime100

Referendom. Ok, I just wanted to misuse it one more time.

lol! Yeah, it's confusing, but so is the OP's mentality, so it works...for him...I guess...

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Don't forget Division Champs.

I got the hat!!

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

MSR. Thank you, it needs to be said.

Bud Adams was a classless P.O.S. for doing that to Bum after taking his team to the playoffs.

Anyone that wants an owner like Bud can go elsewhere, because I feel confident in saying that McNair will NEVER fire his HC after taking the team to the playoffs. And thank god for that!

This is why we fight. We fight because the lemmings would rather us chop and change every two years, just like Detroit, just like Arizona, just like Buffalo. I bet every Bills fan alive would give their left nut to have Marv Levy back, such is their fall from grace.

Bud Adams got lucky with Bum then sacked him. He got lucky again with Jack Pardee, then forced him to resign. Thank God/Jehova/Allah/Whoever that McNair has more sense than the majority of Texan fans.

PS - Great post DB. MSR

[qqert]

Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy

Thank God/Jehova/Allah/Whoever that McNair has /snip

Gold Bars in the safe.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by Surreal McCoy

This is why we fight. We fight because the lemmings would rather us chop and change every two years, just like Detroit, just like Arizona, just like Buffalo.

Not commenting on the rest of your post of even the general sentiment, but two years would have been 2008.

[Dread-Head]

1. Keep Kubiak

2.Fire Schaub!!! Times like now I'm reminded why he spent the first half of his career as Dog Boy's back up.

[Surreal McCoy]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Not commenting on the rest of your post of even the general sentiment, but two years would have been 2008.

Fair enough. But are we not seeing the benefits of that patience now? Or is winning the Super Bowl the only way you'll (figurative you) be able to enjoy a season?