Saturday is a Referendum of Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak's Careers Here in Houston

[Showtime100]

I'm still laughing at the 'Referendom' thing.....lol.

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

go learn the difference between a playoff game and a regular season game.

Yeah, well we just won a "playoff game." Give credit where it is due, or you're full of ****. Either that, or your some fan of some other team who is just trying to aggrivate people on this board.

[Jules Winnfield]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

I just saw my team choke away HFA through the playoffs and the easiest possible path to the Super Bowl ever. That's where I stand. One WC round win where the only TD Matt Schaub could manage was for the other team isn't going to change the fact that they pissed away their best shot at reaching the Super Bowl. I'm consistently disappointed in them until they do something that exceeds the failure of the last 4 games of this regular season.

Talk to me next week following a win in New England (should that come to pass) and maybe I'll be a little less negative.



Well, I see nothing in this win from Matt that would change my opinion of him. It was a pedestrian performance putting his lack of mobility and weak arm on display. Foster and the defense won this game. Schaub just didn't manage to lose it this week.

And that was with outstanding protection. He was given all the time in the world today and he did what he was told. Still was responsible for more Bengals points than Dalton and threw some of the ugliest passes I've ever seen. The one that Daniels spun around to catch was hilarious. The wounded duck that AJ couldn't hold onto was pretty good too.

I'm torn. Who doesn't like wins but at the same time the longer this fraud rides this team to victory the longer we'll have to hold on to him.

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

Yeah, well we just won a "playoff game." Give credit where it is due, or you're full of ****. Either that, or your some fan of some other team who is just trying to aggrivate people on this board.

its done.


its time to start the process of looking for the future qb of the texans.

Matt did not rise to the occasion. He played a typical Matt Schaub game and GAry Kubiak coached a typical Gary Kubiak game.

Spend a 2nd to 4th round pick on a QB let him sit while Schaub plays out his contract.

Its done.

[Texecutioner]

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

its done.


its time to start the process of looking for the future qb of the texans.

Matt did not rise to the occasion. He played a typical Matt Schaub game and GAry Kubiak coached a typical Gary Kubiak game.

Spend a 2nd to 4th round pick on a QB let him sit while Schaub plays out his contract.

Its done.

I'd be fine with that if it's for a really good player with some great potential. Hell, I'd trade away two #1 picks and other picks for a top 3 draft pick at QB if it was for an RG3 type of talent. I have no problem replacing Schaub, but your hyperbole about how bad he is isn't accurate at all. He didn't play great today, but he didn't play bad at all either. He made several good throws and a lot of clutch plays to extend drives on 3rd down which is something that he has lacked this season. He did well with it today, so you can whine all about how isn't as good as Aaron Rogers all you want, but you're going to be trying to find a QB like that for the next 20 years, because it aint gonna happen. Schaub will most likely be here for probably two more seasons.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

This is the kind of thinking that sent Bum Phillips out of Houston 32 years ago and the Oilers spiraling into obscurity.

I have no doubt that the Texans could win a Superbowl with both in place. As a matter of a fact, I think it is likely. Are there coaches and QBs that would increase the likelihood? Yes. Can the team identify and transition to them successfully? I have no idea. Furthermore, has patience proven to be prudent for the health of the organization? Yes. Therefore, I expect the patience to continue... while you may disagree with it, hopefully you can at least understand that it is a logical course of action motivated by a desire for future success... We'll have to see if it pays off with a Superbowl (though, it won't happen this year barring a miracle).

I wonder how many of these doom-sayers recall that Bud reacted like some fans are preaching and tore down a 12-4 Oilers team when they didn't make the Super Bowl. He sent Warren Moon packing off to Minnesota and went with the backup. We finished 2-14 the very next year.

So be careful what you wish for. I'll take half-steps forward to a gigantic crash & burn backwards just to make a change.

[TheMatrix31]

Schaub played a typical Schaub game and Kubiak coached a typical Kubiak game, eh? Well if that's typical and we won a playoff game with typical, then I'll take that.

[eriadoc]

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Schaub's bootleg:

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

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Schaub's bootleg:

[Premier]

Lol^^^

[GP]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

I wonder how many of these doom-sayers recall that Bud reacted like some fans are preaching and tore down a 12-4 Oilers team when they didn't make the Super Bowl. He sent Warren Moon packing off to Minnesota and went with the backup. We finished 2-14 the very next year.

So be careful what you wish for. I'll take half-steps forward to a gigantic crash & burn backwards just to make a change.

What? Aw geez.

Yeah, that couldn't have ANYTHING to do with those players wanting/requiring bigger contracts (I remember that being one of the reasons for a few moves, IIRC). Bud is cheap as hell, as evidenced by his attire.

Plus, he was carving that team out like a pumpkin because he was about to move it all to Nashville. He was mad at many things, one way to get back at the city of Houston was to move the team...which came after having destroyed the Oilers' roster and making sure we all knew who was boss.

I don't think he did this because he thought the fans WANTED it.

That's a bigger conspiracy theory than anything I can even think up, Obsi.

[GP]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

I'd be fine with that if it's for a really good player with some great potential. Hell, I'd trade away two #1 picks and other picks for a top 3 draft pick at QB if it was for an RG3 type of talent. I have no problem replacing Schaub, but your hyperbole about how bad he is isn't accurate at all. He didn't play great today, but he didn't play bad at all either. He made several good throws and a lot of clutch plays to extend drives on 3rd down which is something that he has lacked this season. He did well with it today, so you can whine all about how isn't as good as Aaron Rogers all you want, but you're going to be trying to find a QB like that for the next 20 years, because it aint gonna happen. Schaub will most likely be here for probably two more seasons.

Tex, we played the BENGALS.

He hasn't looked right since the Lions game on turkey day. He looked good up until that game...ever since, he hasn't looked right.

I would bet dollars to donuts that he comes out next season and has about 8 strong games to start the season, then that foot starts causing him problems...and he reverts back to what we've seen of him late in this season.

Something is wrong there. And I think the whole team knows it. I think it explains the general, overall glazed-over-eyes "look" we've seen on this team for the final games of the season. As if they know we've got a liability out there at QB.

[Showtime100]

Referendom. Ok, I just wanted to misuse it one more time.

[thunderkyss]

I'll agree that Schaub didn't look as good as he has in the past. I wouldn't say he looked like crap though.

Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield

Spend a 2nd to 4th round pick on a QB let him sit while Schaub plays out his contract.

I'd love to move on from Schaub, I'd love to upgrade that position.... but how did Cincinnati's 2nd rounder look yesterday?

I think Schaub looked better than that guy. He looked better than a few 1st rounders as well. Ponder, Locker, Gabbert, Tannehill.....

[HJam72]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

I'll agree that Schaub didn't look as good as he has in the past. I wouldn't say he looked like crap though.




I'd love to move on from Schaub, I'd love to upgrade that position.... but how did Cincinnati's 2nd rounder look yesterday?

I think Schaub looked better than that guy. He looked better than a few 1st rounders as well. Ponder, Locker, Gabbert, Tannehill.....

He looked like he had a better RB and a better head for the game, except for that one throw (pick-6) that he should've known he can't make. He also looked like, well, let's put it this way, Dalton looked like he had a cannon for an arm, at least in comparison. The problem is that SB winning QBs usually have Dalton's arm AND Schaub's head, not one or the other.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by HJam72

He looked like he had a better RB and a better head for the game, except for that one throw (pick-6) that he should've known he can't make. He also looked like, well, let's put it this way, Dalton looked like he had a cannon for an arm, at least in comparison. The problem is that SB winning QBs usually have Dalton's arm AND Schaub's head, not one or the other.

If by some miracle we get past New England & the Ravens get past Denver, do you think Matt can play well enough to get us to the Super Bowl?

[Playoffs]

Referendumb passed.

[DX-TEX]

Originally Posted by Playoffs

Referendumb passed.

1 TD in 4 redzone trips.....

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by ckhouston

No he had some good moments.

The pick-six was on him and just blatant stupidity, especially if you notice Johnson comes open right as he throws to Casey. The ball to Johnson in the end-zone I put on Schaub because AJ was wide open and Matt throws it low and away. The other one to OD I think could go either way but believe the reason Schaub threw it so far out was he thought OD was going to continue and instead OD pulls up. If OD continues it is a perfect pass.

Over-all I am glad Matt played as well as he did yesterday but it will need to get to another level against the Pats. They have to play pretty much mistake free to have a chance.

No, the pass in the end zone was low and away because Wade Smith got beat straight away and the DT was in Schaub's grill with arms up in front of the throw.

[DX-TEX]

Originally Posted by ckhouston

Some of that is on Gary being conservative.

Re: Saturday is a Referendum of Matt Schaub and Gary Kubiak's Careers Here in Houston

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

Normal zone bootleg:



Schaub's bootleg:

Excellent diagram. Yeah and this is not just some of the time but all the time.
Why does he do this? Does he know he is doing this?