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Old 01-05-2013   #21
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Maybe I am biased but last year Flacco outplayed Brady in the AFCC Game. One dropped pas from the SB

He has't been consistent this year but I would take him over Schaub- MS hasn't played a playoff game yet.

TJ Yates is a proven playoff winner compared to MS
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The way Schaub has played for the past month, it's hard to rank him ahead of anybody with a straight face. NFL Matchup on ESPN broke down tape of his recent performances and he had wide-open guys open for big plays numerous times against the Colts, Vikings and Patriots and either under-threw them or over-threw them.

An elite quarterback can make those big plays down field and complete a higher percentage of those passes that tend to win games and not lose games. The offensive line gives him enough time on those particular plays but he still isn't taking advantage. He's starting to look like a deer in the headlights a la David Carr. And even worse, he's the slowest quarterback in the league. When he drops back in the pocket he isn't even evading any sacks like he used to do a few years ago.

I'm starting to think that maybe Schaub's foot is still giving him some pain and trouble. There has to be a logical reason he has performed so horribly and can no longer out-run a turtle in a wheelchair. All that being said, Matt Schaub can silence a lot of critics and doubters if he has a good showing today and wins his first career playoff game.

Matt Schaub can redeem himself today with a big playoff win. He's the reason we lost the 1st seed in the AFC Playoffs, but he can also be the reason we advance to the divisional round against the Patriots.
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Don't know how to do poll where you can rank from first to last but would be curious where you think MS ranks is relation to the other QBs in the playoffs both AFC and NFC. Sorry if this has already been done.
Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
Luck
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RGIII
Wilson
MS
Kaepernick
Ponder

Sorry I should start
9 or 10 presently
11 or 12 in future
Just my opinion
It's easy. Tell me if we traded Schaub after the season what would we get?
Probably a third or fourth round pick and whoever was dumb enough to take him would definitely not have hom as a starter.
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Maybe I am biased but last year Flacco outplayed Brady in the AFCC Game. One dropped pas from the SB
I suppose you could say that, but it ignores the fact that Baltimore was a top 5 pass defense and NE was 31st.
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It's easy. Tell me if we traded Schaub after the season what would we get?
Probably a third or fourth round pick and whoever was dumb enough to take him would definitely not have hom as a starter.
P.S. Watch Yates take over in second half when we are down 20-6.
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In order for the Texans to win four straight games starting today and go on to win the Super Bowl: The run game has to dominate and the defense has to play like "Bulls on Parade" did in last year's playoffs. It's not impossible for that to happen but the healthy inside linebackers we have left, along with our secondary, have to elevate their game in order to match the intensity of the opposing offense.

I know our defensive line will give it all they have. I have confidence our secondary will come alive today. It's the linebackers I'm not too confident in right now. No Brian Cushing, no Tim Dibbons, we're already using our third stringer at one of the positions. The middle of the field will be wide open all game long for the Bengals, whether they want to exploit us through the air or the ground. We need Barwin and Reed to kick some ass and Bradie James has to play like he's 4 or 5 years younger - when he was beasting during his Dallas days. And hopefully Barrett Ruud can hold his own.

This is still a team game. Matt Schaub has to play well for the Texans to be holding the Lombardi Trophy a month from now. But we can still win even if he doesn't perform like an elite quarterback, but it's going to take other players stepping up their game which they haven't really done since November.

If the Texans run game and defense don't show up today the Bengals will swallow us alive and give us a beating of a lifetime. I hope guys like Arian Foster, Ben Tate, the entire offensive line and the entire defense (yes, Wade Phillips' entire group) come to play with a lot of passion, energy and heart. I'M CALLING THEM OUT AND QUESTIONING THEIR MAN HOOD!!!!!!! They have a lot to prove today.

I think it's pretty damn sad when so many of the so-called NFL experts on TV are picking the Bengals to win today. But I can't disagree with them if the Texans don't play much better than that pathetic trash that we've been seeing for the past month.

TODAY IS IT GUYS!!!!! Will the Texans step the hell up or choke again?
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If we're talking about QB that can run our system then you have to put Rodgers at the top of the list and move Manning and Brady down.
This^^^ Our offense & Aaron Rodgers are a match made in heaven.
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It's easy. Tell me if we traded Schaub after the season what would we get?
Probably a third or fourth round pick and whoever was dumb enough to take him would definitely not have hom as a starter.
I agree only I don't think you get that much.
The only one I don't think I want over Schaub for sure is Ponder.
I really don't know a lot about him other than he gets married right in the heart of a playoff race.
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Matt doesn't rank with anyone, anywhere, ever.

Today is his chance to change that.
Do you expect people to take you seriously when you spew this kind of crap?

I'm just asking, because I want Schaub replaced, but your hyperbole on just about everything is off the charts.

Didn't you just say last week that you didn't want us to win??
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Dead last.
Where does he rank among all NFL quarterbacks? Pretty close to dead last.
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How is Dalton doing?
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Do you expect people to take you seriously when you spew this kind of crap?

I'm just asking, because I want Schaub replaced, but your hyperbole on just about everything is off the charts.

Didn't you just say last week that you didn't want us to win??
Indeed and cited the massive benefits of picking 24th as opposed to 25th...
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How is Dalton doing?
0/8 on 3rd downs

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Schaub is unbeaten in the play-offs and Dalton is still winless.
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Indeed and cited the massive benefits of picking 24th as opposed to 25th...
DOn't know why he thinks that anyone would take him seriously at this point. He didn't want us to win today. We won. I'm happy, and I was ecstatic just to be able to watch my Texans in a playoff game again this year. Life is good as a Texans fan "for today at least."
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Don't know how to do poll where you can rank from first to last but would be curious where you think MS ranks is relation to the other QBs in the playoffs both AFC and NFC. Sorry if this has already been done.
Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Ryan
Luck
Flacco
Dalton
RGIII
Wilson
MS
Kaepernick
Ponder

Sorry I should start
9 or 10 presently
11 or 12 in future
Just my opinion
FYI, all the QBs in this list (and more, including Rivers, Brees, Big Ben, Eli, Romo)... every QBs that had been to the play-offs 2 times or more had lost in the first round MULTIPLE times.

Peyton led the futility charge with 7 losses in the first round.
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FYI, all the QBs in this list (and more, including Rivers, Brees, Big Ben, Eli, Romo)... every QBs that had been to the play-offs 2 times or more had lost in the first round MULTIPLE times.

Peyton led the futility charge with 7 losses in the first round.
Don't be trying to confuse us with facts...

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Don't be trying to confuse us with facts...

Sorry, it's just stats.
I forgot that stats don't mean nothing.

And I just remember something, they say QBs get too much credit in Wins and also get too much blame in Losses.

I guess it doesn't apply here.

Schaub didn't get any credit from a "ton" of people for this Win and Dalton didn't get any blame from the same "ton" of people for the Bengals loss (I think they discounted last year losses, too.)

I wonder if those who "want" Dalton over Schaub ever show up and say "oops, my bad".

After all, they think Dalton is the kind of guy that Schaub can't never be, the guy who can scramble and extend play with his mobility, the guy who doesn't panick under pressure, the guy who can be accurate on the deep ball, the guy who can carry a team, the guy who can....
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Dalton deserved some blame for both losses. Schaub doesn't really deserve much credit for this win. Foster and Defense won this game.

Here's where I WILL give Schaub some credit: he didn't go out there, sling it around, and throw 3 picks like Yates...
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Schaub's performance won't take the Texans far.
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