Do you have faith in Matt Schaub?

[Perki-Perk]

Originally Posted by amazing80

Schaub is garbage, Im driving the Yates for qb in 2013 train.....ALL ABOARD

I wouldn't get on that train either...

[Porky]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

That's a tough one. Knowing where we are now I would not have made that trade. I think it was a good trade if you take into consideration what we knew then and what we had to work with but if you know there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow then no, you don't go that route.

Nobody out there that you like at the end of 2006? You go ahead and start Sage in 2007. There have been many opportunities to get QB's who could play since then.

Very fair points. Food for thought, but regardless what's done is done. Hindsight is always 20/20.

[thunderkyss]

I mentioned my reasoning in the first post.

Originally Posted by Fiddler

I'll tell you where I'm at. I think Matt is capable. He's shown us, imo, that he can play at the level required to take us where we want to go. I've been puzzled as to why we haven't seen him play at that level recently.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by Say Watt

How in the world could anyone vote "Yes"? I haven't read the entire thread, but I don't think even one person has posted in defense of Schaub. Could someone who voted yes please come give your take and your reasons behind still having faith in Schaub?

Extreme homer?....family member?............kubiak?........other than tha i've got nothing

[dream_team]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

Extreme homer?....family member?............kubiak?........other than tha i've got nothing

Do I have faith in Schaub being able to take us to the Super Bowl? Yes. Do I have faith Schaub can carry us to the Super Bowl if other aspects of the team is having a down game? No.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by dream_team

Do I have faith in Schaub being able to take us to the Super Bowl? Yes. Do I have faith Schaub can carry us to the Super Bowl if other aspects of the team is having a down game? No.

That's a totally different question all together b/c of the bolded word....deep down, you know that's not what the OP meant anyway..good for you nonetheless.

[scourge]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

That's a tough one. Knowing where we are now I would not have made that trade. I think it was a good trade if you take into consideration what we knew then and what we had to work with but if you know there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow then no, you don't go that route.

Nobody out there that you like at the end of 2006? You go ahead and start Sage in 2007. There have been many opportunities to get QB's who could play since then.

If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure that right after the 2007 draft Kubiak made some comment about not thinking Brady Quinn would be there when we picked. (which would have been 9 before the Schaub switch.)

That makes a lot of sense to me that Gary would have drafted Brady. So looking back now, would anyone prefer Brady over Matt? With the right coaching Brady could have been a "decent" QB. Kubiak was also very interested in Kevin Kolb at the time. Neither may have necessarily ended up as an upgrade, but those were most likely the only three options they considered at the time.

None of those stand out as "what were they thinking?" Then again, had we taken Brady or Kolb we would have those extra draft picks back, and Kolb would've been taken later on, possibly in a trade down scenario.

[Say Watt]

I thought this was a huge point LZ made in his blog:

Matt Schaub has saved his worst football of the year for the end of the season. Right now, he is playing football like the guy at the Let It Ride table in Las Vegas who is playing $5 per hand. You know that guy doesn’t bet enough to win big. He won’t go completely broke because he won’t risk that last $20 bill in his pocket, but you also know that all he’s doing is killing time. He’s not really gambling to win. That’s what Schaub feels like to me right now.

[rush2112mn]

I dont know about Schaub anymore....I think he has lost his swagger. Some of his passes.....are poorly thrown these days......I dont know if he can win a playoff game.

I know TJ Yates can....he did last year........just saying........

[MEGA SWATT]

MS is weak, scared, and pathetic. He canNOT hit a receiver in stride in long yardage passes. He either overthrows or underthrows forcing the receiver to dive, double-back, or he gift-wraps a pick to the defender. He has a weak arm, he is not mobile, goes down at the slightest amount of contact. He is frustrating AJ and others --you can see it in their body language after MS craps a pass to them.

He is not a leader and I fear that my 5 yr old daughter could do better.

Anyone but MS.

Having said that, I welcome him to prove me wrong.

[Double Barrel]

6 of the 12 playoff teams this year have either rookies or second year QBs starting for them.

Food for thought...

[michaelm]

No. Next question.

[Hervoyel]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

6 of the 12 playoff teams this year have either rookies or second year QBs starting for them.

Food for thought...

Texecutioner assures me this is not possible. Please check again.

[mussop]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

Texecutioner assures me this is not possible. Please check again.

Oooooo

[False Start]

I did earlier in the season, but as of now...no.

[SheTexan]

I voted yes, but, with reservations.

I believe our problem is with Kubiak and Dennison. How do we know MS is not as frustrated with the play calling as the rest of the team, as well as most of the fans?? I don't know if Kubiak gives him a chance to call plays or not, or if he's going completely on what Kubiak calls from the sideline. IF Kubiak can't let him loose, trust him to make the right call, then we need to find someone he does trust, and if MS doesn't have the guts to override Kubes when he knows a play won't work, then that's on him and he needs to grow some "junk!". I know I see MS walking over to the sideline a lot, and looking to Kubes for direction. I'm just not sure he's ever had the chance to do his own THANG without having Kubiak or Dennison breathing down his neck! He should be calling all the shots, like PM and Brady, by now. He's been around long enough.

[Goodwrench3]

Our biggest problem is Kubiak.Coward coach who does not enjoy the good players that have.Schaub is a good player and will surprise many people in these playoffs.God willing.

[hradhak]

There are flaws on a lot of levels. This team is just not performing at the level it needs to. Schaub is definitely better than most of the QBs out there, but he's not Brady, Manning, or Brees.

Fine. I don't expect us to win when the entire team lays an egg. The defense has given up big plays, the offensive line has not been stellar, our receivers save for AJ have had terrible games. Schaub doesn't play special teams.

I expect Schaub to do a few things: protect the ball (pretty good), coordinate the offense (average), and make throws (inconsistent). I don't expect him to win when the rest of the team is playing terrible, and that's fine with me. I can only expect that of the aforementioned list of players.

[powda]

I have faith that little green martians dressed like elvis will bungee jump out of the ceiling tiles and hand me golden apple seeds before schaub takes us to the superbowl.

[TheMatrix31]

SIXTY-TWO "no"s and FOURTEEN "yes"s?

Dayum.