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Old 12-30-2012   #81
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If we signed Cowher would everyone be willing to be patient while we retooled the offensive line?

Just asking knowing this would never happen.
Probably, because we would have a guy who had been there and done that when it came to winning a Super Bowl, so the trust level is just higher. Kubiak was a bad QB and has been a bad coach, the trust level is pretty damn low, unless your last name is McNair.

It's also possible that he wouldn't have given Arian the contract and would have kept the line together.

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If we signed Cowher would everyone be willing to be patient while we retooled the offensive line?

Just asking knowing this would never happen.
If the problem is the talent on this team, I don't think Cowher is the answer, unless he's going to be our new GM.

If we fire Kubiak after a 12-4 record, we're saying it is a coaching problem & he should win right away. If our guys don't fit the new guys "system" then we did a bad job of finding a coach for this team.
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I thought this ship sunk already?

By all means, I'm all about the chin... it's just, he's been out of the league awhile. I don't know if he's got it in him anymore.

Ugh... and for God's sake, don't say make Wade the head coach.
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If the problem is the talent on this team, I don't think Cowher is the answer, unless he's going to be our new GM.

If we fire Kubiak after a 12-4 record, we're saying it is a coaching problem & he should win right away. If our guys don't fit the new guys "system" then we did a bad job of finding a coach for this team.
Talent? It's not the talent. Well not completely. It's a combo poor QB play and poor game planning. Both of which Cower would rectify.

I have no doubt Cowher would make a change at QB at the first chance he had. Kubiak has never been a good game planner or game manager or good at in game adjustments. His game planning never takes into account what the other team is good at. It's straight forward, this is what we are good at so this is what we are going to do, you try and stop us.

That works fine against inferior and less talented teams although you can see it sometimes barely works against them when they are well prepared. When that happens or we are playing good teams he is incapable of making adjustments.

Hell look back at he NE game. Why in the hell would you keep running right at Wilfork when he is consistently blowing up the OL in front of him? You see it over and over with Kubiak. Something aint workin? Keep trying it till its to late! I really wanted to be wrong about him but the more I watch this offense fall apart the more apparent it is that I was right about him all along
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i thought this ship sunk already?

By all means, i'm all about the chin... It's just, he's been out of the league awhile. I don't know if he's got it in him anymore.

Ugh... and for god's sake, don't say make wade the head coach.
this x 10000000
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Anyone remember the march to the stadium at the end of the 6-10 season with the coffin that said something like "Texans playoff hopes" and the guys calling for Cowher?
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Cowher and Gruden have not been called by anyone for a reason. And a damn good one at that.
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Cowher and Gruden have not been called by anyone for a reason. And a damn good one at that.
because they pubically say the dont want to coach...
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I have been sporting this for years...I used to get regular grief for it. Not so much anymore...
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If the problem is the talent on this team, I don't think Cowher is the answer, unless he's going to be our new GM.

If we fire Kubiak after a 12-4 record, we're saying it is a coaching problem & he should win right away. If our guys don't fit the new guys "system" then we did a bad job of finding a coach for this team.
There's a big difference between an "empty cubbard" and what we have here. This team has talent. They have plenty of talent. There are position issues around the roster that need to be addressed and they need a leader at QB badly but nobody is going to have to come in here and tear the thing down again. That's something the faint of heart want to convince everyone will be needed because they're scared of change.

I think Rick Smith is a good GM and I see teams torn down and rebuilt in short order all over the league every year. The Colts drafted a QB, ripped their team apart, kept the best pieces, and they're 11 game winners this year and headed to the playoffs after a 2-14 season. It took Gary 6 goddamn years to manage that. Sean Payton took a 3-13 Saints team to the playoffs the next year with a 10-6 record. Harbaugh turned the 49ers around, The right coach can turn your team around if there's something to work with.

It is a coaching problem, combined with a talent/leadership issue at QB and a talent issue on the OL in places. That's hardly insurmountable for a real NFL HC. For Gary that's another 4 years if we get a few breaks and everyone dedicates themselves to acting like a pro.
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because they pubically say the dont want to coach...

According to NFL.com Gruden is saying he'll interview this year for open jobs. Cowher won't be far behind him. Too many great opportunities out there. Houston is not one of them though. Gary's gonna be coaching the Texans to late season chokes for years to come.
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According to NFL.com Gruden is saying he'll interview this year for open jobs. Cowher won't be far behind him. Too many great opportunities out there. Houston is not one of them though. Gary's gonna be coaching the Texans to late season chokes for years to come.
You're right, and I hate you for it.

Well, I actually don't hate you, I just hate having to agree with you on this. I've been postponing renewing my membership in the Fire Kubiak club, but it appears it isn't far off.
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According to NFL.com Gruden is saying he'll interview this year for open jobs. Cowher won't be far behind him. Too many great opportunities out there. Houston is not one of them though. Gary's gonna be coaching the Texans to late season chokes for years to come.
I agree they will take a job, I was replying to surreal mccoy suggesting they weren't getting calls because they were no good
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I'm honestly just not convinced that Cowher wants to come back. These days It seems that once these guys have been away for a while and get those cushy studio jobs that pay well, they've tended to not want to come back; i think these guys really do forgot how good life could be away from the constant stress that is a head coach in the NFL...........Aside from Gruden that is anyway.

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I'm honestly just not convinced that Cowher wants to come back. These days It seems that once these guys have been away for a while and get those cushy studio jobs that pay well, they've tended to not want to come back; i think these guys really do forgot how good life could be away from the constant stress that is a head coach in the NFL...........Aside from Gruden that is anyway.

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We could be very well stuck with "only better than average" Kubiak for years and years. And in some years, he could luck out with other teams just not being up to par and getting us something. I could think of worse things that could happen.

And I can also think of better things. There are very few elite head coaches to go around, and we certainly don't have one of them right now.
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