How to fix the offense

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

Not a popular opinion, but I don't think the line is the problem. Yes they are worse than last year.

The reason schaub isn't passing for all those yards like he did back then is because we are in games now. We aren't down by a bunch of scores playing prevent stat padding defense.

Matt's stats have also been helped a bunch by guys getting yac. For the past 6 years we've had a top 6 guy in yac. No other team has had that.

Rey,

You make some good points. But this... trying to rewrite history. It's not a fact that Schaub padded his stats by being behind all the time & throwing against soft defenses. There was a time when we couldn't run the ball to sit on a lead & Schaub would throw the ball. We lost a lot of one possession games, in which Schaub built his stats.

Then to say he's Jon Kitna..... I liked Jon Kitna, but Matt is no Jon Kitna.

Originally Posted by Rey

And Andre should have caught the ball, but the throw wasn't all that. He's 6 4 and has his man beat by a good margin. Throw the damn ball up so he can pluck it out the air and not have to slow down and bend over. That's the same version of throw that led to Andre kicking the ball up for a game ending int a couple years ago.

I don't remember what Matt was dealing with at that time. Maybe there was somebody at his feet. Maybe he had to throw it over a LB & try to get it to drop right. Maybe he took a shot to the ribs. I don't know, like I said, I don't remember.

But you're right, Andre should have caught that ball more than Matt should have made a better throw. That's an easy catch..... should have been. Compared to some of the other balls we've seen, some of the other acrobatic catches.

To me, it helps the team if Andre makes that catch. Hurts the psyche if he doesn't... like the Texans are thinking nothing's going to go right today, that catch would feed into that thinking.

Originally Posted by Rey

Underthrows, throws at the feet, no mobility, no playmaking. But not risky and knows the plays. A back up at his finest. Would love to have a real qb and have schaub behind him to hold the fort for a few games in case of injury.

I agree, a lot of that stuff needs to get worked out. But it wasn't that long ago that Schaub was not the problem. Denver, Baltimore, Detroit, Jacksonville.... didn't look too bad in Tennessee.

Originally Posted by Rey

The team looks defeated because they don't fully believe in the qb. They don't think he's going to make those big time plays. They don't believe he'll punish defenses. They'll give lip service and say they do though.

But look how energized this team was under Yates last year.

I do think if Matt's going to be the leader he needs to be, he's got to have to make a big time play more often than not. They need to know that he's going to go above & beyond to give them an opportunity to make a play. Throwing the ball away as often & quickly as he does is not going to get it done. If I'm a receiver/TE, 5 seconds after the snap, why should I be running? I know he's already got rid of the ball & if my name isn't Aj, chances are he wasn't going to throw it at me anyway.

[Pantherstang84]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

Lol, so you think mustard instead of mayo would taste better on your **** sandwich i take it then?

I had to rep this post.

[Uncle Rico]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

Lol, so you think mustard instead of mayo would taste better on your **** sandwich i take it then?

at least romo can outrun DT's and throw the ball 40 yards down the field.

[hradhak]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

honestly. here is what i think.

when kubiak gets a little lead in a game he gets really conservative, i see no difference in what he did with our lead in the AFC and it really bit us in the ass. I think he is the reason for the drop off. He seems to get scared and tries to out smart himself.

so we get a lead in a game and go turtle and we get a lead in the AFC and go turtle, not surprising really. I expect to see him open it back up next weekend now that we've lost HFA haha

I think you can get conservative when your run game is working. Right now it isn't and we can't sit on the ball like we did last year. Our offensive line gets better, I think being conservative with a lead is not much of a problem.

Without an o line, we need to adjust and get more aggressive.

[amazing80]

Originally Posted by hradhak

I think you can get conservative when your run game is working. Right now it isn't and we can't sit on the ball like we did last year. Our offensive line gets better, I think being conservative with a lead is not much of a problem.

Without an o line, we need to adjust and get more aggressive.

aggressive and kubiak is an oxymoron

[klockWork]

No other thing left except to let players like Newton, Jones, Jean, and Martin progress. Since we stuck on QB, Schaub needs to learn to trust his young receivers and stop forcing everything to AJ.
Any key FA signing isn't happening after we didn't franchised tag Foster. We stuck with what we got. And what we got is still more than most(8 pro-bowlers).

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Uncle Rico

at least romo can outrun DT's and throw the ball 40 yards down the field.

& how'd that work out for him?

[playa465]

For the next game we have to break the mold...spread the offense out and hit some quick throws to get our QB's confidence up. With our OL struggling everything things needs to be at a faster pace even running plays...quick pitches or quick hits up the gut. Also Kubiak needs to have the offense break the huddle and run up to the LOS on every play. They look too lethargic, get some hustle in their azz.

[midway]

Originally Posted by playa465

For the next game we have to break the mold...spread the offense out and hit some quick throws to get our QB's confidence up. With our OL struggling everything things needs to be at a faster pace even running plays...quick pitches or quick hits up the gut. Also Kubiak needs to have the offense break the huddle and run up to the LOS on every play. They look too lethargic, get some hustle in their azz.

Not happening, Kubiak is scared ****less.