The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK thread

[Nawzer]

Originally Posted by LonerATO

I could see him getting serious consideration for a head coaching spot.

The sad thing is we are a good team with some problems and not a bad teams with really big problems. I feel like our offensive woes are mainly due to how inflexible we are on offense and that falls squarely on Kubiak's shoulders. Having a QB who's clearly on the downslide of his career doesn't help either. If Kubiak has any intelligence he has to realize that his offense needs tweaking to make it more fast. He needs put players into better positions to make plays for us. Right now it's AJ and that's it. If AJ is not making plays we would be a terrible passing offense. Unfortunately, I think Kubiak is too hard headed to make any sort of change and he's probably afraid of making any changes at this point.

[utahmark]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Well okay then. It's no wonder why you think Andy Reid is an upgrade, then.

Or maybe I know some Eagles fans? Does not matter, we just finished with a 12 and 4 record. That's the best record for a Houston pro team since I was born. Kubiak will be here and it's hard to argue with his recent success. The end of this season has left a bad taste in everybody's mouth. I'm feed up with it and I have more patience than most of you guys.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by utahmark

Kubiak will be here...

Yes he will. This just a place for some to vent.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Texecutioner

You serious?? Someone steal your account?? Are you willing to agree now that Kubiak has never been the coach that you've believed him to be all these years??

Well, who did we think he could be?

I think he was probably the best coach we could have hoped for, for this organization, when we got him. We had Bob McNair & all he knew about football was what Dan Reeves & Charlie Casserly was telling him.

This organization was a joke when he got here & now, it is what McNair set out to create. I think mostly because of Gary Kubiak. Can he win a Super Bowl? I don't know.

But, do you think Tom Coughlin can win a Super Bowl?

I know most people will say, "You can't compare Coughlin to Kubiak, Coughlin has won two Super Bowls & Kubiak has won nothing."

But my point, is that guy is the same guy he was before he won two Super Bowls. There is no question about it, that guy has a Super Bowl caliber team. But he couldn't get that Super Bowl team into the play offs in 2012. If you believe in being flat, or un-motivated, or un-inspired..... they got whupped in 2 of his last three. They got shut out three weeks ago.

If that guy can win two Super Bowls, I haven't seen anything to make me believe Gary Kubiak can't.

[Thorn]

I'm back!

FIRE KUBIAK!

I'm sure he'll be back next year, but I just had to dredge this thread up anyway.

[utahmark]

Don't know if I want to join the club or not. Two straight trips to the second round of the playoff's but no realistic chance at a superbowl vs the crapshoot of getting a new head coach? Whats worse is that before the end of this season I thought we might of been real close to a superbowl last year but even if we would of got past the Ravens, Belichick would of used our coaching staff the same way he did this year. Hard to ever win a Superbowl when there is a certain type of team that you have no chance of beating. Have to go through the playoff's without facing the Packers, Saints or Patriots.

[ATXtexanfan]

fire kubiak and he will find a job. fire schaub............

[Textan]

Originally Posted by Thorn

I'm back!

FIRE KUBIAK!

I'm sure he'll be back next year, but I just had to dredge this thread up anyway.

Amen Thorn, Amen, and throw in Schaub to seal the deal.

[Mr. Texan]

Originally Posted by ATXtexanfan

fire kubiak and he will find a job. fire schaub............

i think one of the lesser teams would go after him.

schaub isn't a great qb but there would be some interest especially since he doesn't come with a high price tag.

[Hervoyel]

Fire Kubiak, Make him take Schaub with him. I'll be back next year same time, same message. Rinse and repeat.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Thorn

I'm back!

FIRE KUBIAK!

I'm sure he'll be back next year, but I just had to dredge this thread up anyway.

Justifiable venting and b!tching can be had in the All-Incompassing Dump Matt Schaub thread.

Kubiak didn't do a bad job today. Had them within 4 at the half - should have been tied if Casey could catch.

I'm afraid this loss is on Schaub.

[MEGA SWATT]

Kubiak and Schaub need to go.

Nice guys, but they are not great leaders and are NOT able to do any better than 2 and threw.

[Textan]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

Justifiable venting and b!tching can be had in the All-Incompassing Dump Matt Schaub thread.

Kubiak didn't do a bad job today. Had them within 4 at the half - should have been tied if Casey could catch.

I'm afraid this loss is on Schaub.

And this last month is on who? This monumental collapse is all on Sloth Schaubs shoulders?

[fiasco west]

Originally Posted by utahmark

Don't know if I want to join the club or not. Two straight trips to the second round of the playoff's but no realistic chance at a superbowl vs the crapshoot of getting a new head coach? Whats worse is that before the end of this season I thought we might of been real close to a superbowl last year but even if we would of got past the Ravens, Belichick would of used our coaching staff the same way he did this year. Hard to ever win a Superbowl when there is a certain type of team that you have no chance of beating. Have to go through the playoff's without facing the Packers, Saints or Patriots.

Pretty much.

The idea to hire some college coach is silly. You pretty much risk it all then.

If you want to get rid of Kubiak then bring in a proven coach that has won it before.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Mr. Texan

i think one of the lesser teams would go after him.

schaub isn't a great qb but there would be some interest especially since he doesn't come with a high price tag.

Given his age and the fact that he's not once played big time in a meaningful game i think you might be surprised.

I think more likely would be a team with an already established qb that needs a good back up.

If I'm a young team and I'm starting fresh why would I bring schaub in? Teams are drafting young qb's these days and playing them early...I don't want to stifle the process of finding a true franchise qb by putting schaub out there whom I don't think is good enough to take me to my ultimate goal and therefore isn't a long term solution.

I think an established team with a good qb already in place would be a good spot for schaub. If the starter went down schaub could come in and baby sit the offense and do some good things.

But I need more playmaking ability from a starting qb in today's NFL.

[Mr. Texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

Given his age and the fact that he's not once played big time in a meaningful game i think you might be surprised.

I think more likely would be a team with an already established qb that needs a good back up.

If I'm a young team and I'm starting fresh why would I bring schaub in? Teams are drafting young qb's these days and playing them early...I don't want to stifle the process of finding a true franchise qb by putting schaub out there whom I don't think is good enough to take me to my ultimate goal and therefore isn't a long term solution.

I think an established team with a good qb already in place would be a good spot for schaub. If the starter went down schaub could come in and baby sit the offense and do some good things.

But I need more playmaking ability from a starting qb in today's NFL.

you would be surprised.

raiders went with a washed up carson palmer.

2x pro bowler
pro bowl mvp
lead the league in passing yards

we forget how desperate teams are.

use schaub as a place holder while you build the rest of your team.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Mr. Texan

we forget how desperate teams are.

use schaub as a place holder while you build the rest of your team.

just like Alex Smith was. Houston just needs to find their Kapernick.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Mr. Texan

you would be surprised.

raiders went with a washed up carson palmer.

2x pro bowler
pro bowl mvp
lead the league in passing yards

we forget how desperate teams are.

use schaub as a place holder while you build the rest of your team.

Not going to happen and a completely ridiculous comparison.

First off, Palmer has tools schaub doesn't. Palmer was a #1 overall. As much as you might want to believe otherwise teams probably felt like Palmer had more upside than schaub. They felt he could be a true franchise qb with a change of scenery. They felt like Palmer coulb be their franchise player.

LoL @ trading all those picks for a placeholder at qb.

No one is trading that haul for schaub because like I said (and you seem to agree with) he'd be a ace holder.

And lastly, the raiders had just been burned on a young qb they took at the top if the draft.

Their situation was completely different and what we gave with schaub is not remotely close.

No one is looking at schaub and thinking...I think there's something I can work with there...I want him to qb my team to a superbowl....no one but us at least...

[AJ-80]

I would be fine with Kubiak getting the boot, but the question is, what are the options here? The last thing we need is McNair making a spur-of-the-moment decision and firing him without a better option to replace him with. As far as Shaub goes, he's average. Never going to win the super bowl, but will consistently get you in the playoffs. What are the chances we trade for Alex Smith?

[Mr. Texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

No one is looking at schaub and thinking...I think there's something I can work with there...I want him to qb my team to a superbowl....no one but us at least...

the last thing a lesser team is looking for in the present is a superbowl qb.

you would be amazed at how many fanbases just want to be in the position the texans are in with schaub or even just win games.

schaub can win games, he's just not a qb to carry a team at that next level.

contrary to popular belief here some people still consider schaub a decent qb.