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Old 12-29-2012   #121
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Luck is a rookie, he might be a great player one day, but right now he is overrated

His completion percentage is 31 in the leagu
His yards are 7th
He is second in the league with most int's
QB rating Is 29th
He is 16th in tds(one behind Schaub)

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl.../completionPct

Why so much hype right now?

I'd give him time but right now I don't see the hype
He has "play-making" ability. He has done really well when charging back on the final drives. I'm not going to throw out the "clutch" word... just that he appears to be an exciting player when it comes down to it. He's been a late-starter for sure. If he can get over that... he'll be pretty durn good... so I like him for the time being.
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He has "play-making" ability. He has done really well when charging back on the final drives. I'm not going to throw out the "clutch" word... just that he appears to be an exciting player when it comes down to it. He's been a late-starter for sure. If he can get over that... he'll be pretty durn good... so I like him for the time being.
And he will never, ever play a single down for the Texans. Threads like this are orders of magnitude beyond stupid.

I fervently hope that he sucks ball sacks after a record setting rookie season.
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And he will never, ever play a single down for the Texans. Threads like this are orders of magnitude beyond stupid.

I fervently hope that he sucks ball sacks after a record setting rookie season.
I wasn't talking about him coming to the Texans. I was merely responding to a question.
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Default Re: Schaub or Luck for the rest of this season ONLY.

Here is every stat scenario imaginable on Luck so far
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits...74/andrew-luck

I think he has a higher ceiling than Matt
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Has anyone seen any improvement in Luck's game this year? I haven't watched much of him, but what little I've seen, I'm convinced he's the same guy he was when he started the season.

Which concerns me. I'll be interested to see how the Colts handle him this offseason, see how he starts next season.

So far, it appears the Colts are letting him do what their last QB did..... wing it. He's getting by on his talents.

I'm not in the locker room, so I don't know. Just a hunch. But I think the Colts are screwing up. I think Luck can be a franchise QB one day, maybe even elite. But only if they develop him correctly.

They let him Bret Farve it & he might be the next Vick.
Don't know where you get the notion the Colts are wrongly handling Luck. Luck has more yards passing and 8 fewer ints than Peyton rookie season not to mention he's leading them to a playoff.
Most of Luck turnovers have come when they were far behind against good defense forcing throws and scrambling behind a bad O line.
But in close games this dude is big time clutch.

You put Luck in a Texans stars studded offense this team will be alot more dynamic. Sure he'll turn the ball over more than Schaub, sure we'll lose a game or two due to him taking chances. But the thing that separates him from Schaub is he shows up and plays in crucial moments alot more this season than Schaub had ever did in any season in his career. There's nothing over rating about that.
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I wasn't talking about him coming to the Texans. I was merely responding to a question.
Regardless, it's an ignorant thread.
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Regardless, it's an ignorant thread.
Noted. Now go watch Full House or something and let us talk. Thanks.
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in 8 years luck could end up a BUst for all we know
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Noted. Now go watch Full House or something and let us talk. Thanks.
Go talk about Full House in the Douche Bag Forum. This forum is for Texan's Football. This is still an ignorant thread.
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Go talk about Full House in the Douche Bag Forum. This forum is for Texan's Football. This is still an ignorant thread.
I'm normally more of a stalker around this forum, but honestly, what's wrong with a hypothetical thread? You're more than welcome to pass it over if it pleases you.
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I'm normally more of a stalker around this forum, but honestly, what's wrong with a hypothetical thread? You're more than welcome to pass it over if it pleases you.
There seems to be several Schaub or *** threads on here that are just plain stupid. Schaub isn't a HOF QB but he's who is going to lead us for the next few years, so why start with all the BS? Merge all the Schaub or *** threads into one and I'd be happy to pass it by.

Schaub isn't going anywhere soon, so lets figure out something else to ***** about on our way to the playoffs.
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Regardless, it's an ignorant thread.
Doc,

Agree if you take thread literally.

I should have said do you take a rookie that has the physical tools, and has a great pedigree and seems to be very intelligent and has unbelievable upside or do you stay with a known QB that lacks physical ability coming off a serious injury and has shown to maybe not play his best in big games ?

That is what should have been said but easier to ask Schaub or Luck hypothetically.

By the way the answer was Luck
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Default Re: Schaub or Luck for the rest of this season ONLY.

Luck looked like a veteran QB today. Killed us with his snap count, ball placement, & ability to create.

Schaub looked like the rookie. Taking what the defense gives him, poor ball placement, poor vision.

I'm liking Harbaugh's decision to start Kaepernick more & more. He knows fool's gold when he sees it. Right now, it would be difficult for anyone to build the case that Schaub can win the Super Bowl.

A game like today is the kind of game a leader, a winner would show up in. Sure, this loss is not on the QB, they get too much credit, too much blame. He needs help, an offensive line, receivers that can catch. But this team is 12-4, we should have all that. Can't help but think an upgrade at QB would "fix" all that.
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Luck looked like a veteran QB today. Killed us with his snap count, ball placement, & ability to create.

Schaub looked like the rookie. Taking what the defense gives him, poor ball placement, poor vision.

I'm liking Harbaugh's decision to start Kaepernick more & more. He knows fool's gold when he sees it. Right now, it would be difficult for anyone to build the case that Schaub can win the Super Bowl.

A game like today is the kind of game a leader, a winner would show up in. Sure, this loss is not on the QB, they get too much credit, too much blame. He needs help, an offensive line, receivers that can catch. But this team is 12-4, we should have all that. Can't help but think an upgrade at QB would "fix" all that.
Yeah, Schaub isn't leading us anywhere unless the running game and defense is also clicking on all cylinders. He is just not athletic and can't make things happen, plus his arm is terrible. People say Manning is slow and all, but that guy moves around and can make things happen. Brady, too. They aren't mobile really, but can move around and do stuff (we have all seen it). Schaub? He's sacked or a throwaway. So jealous of the Colts and their QB. Hell, I'm jealous of about 20 other NFL teams also.
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Luck is the type of QB that the Texans need. He's really not been that great this entire season, you can look at his body of work if you disagree.

But in crunch time? Where Schaub is one of the worst QBs in the league? Luck steps up and wins close games. That's all we need out of a quarterback if the team is properly motivated.
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I think on this team Luck's numbers would look MUCH better.
Can you imagine Schaub's numbers on the Colts this year.
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I used to think Schaub just couldn't throw far enough, because he underthrew too often. Now, it seems he just has no accuracy beyond 30 yards. 2 Picks today. Both long throws. One underthrown, just like the old Schaub. One overthrown, because he is a robot out there running it just like in practice............................no matter what is happening on the field. The man cannot improvise, even in the slightest. It kinda reminds me of....our head coach sometimes.

Beyond that, Godell payed the refs to favor Pogano's team today.
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Luck is the type of QB that the Texans need. He's really not been that great this entire season, you can look at his body of work if you disagree.

But in crunch time? Where Schaub is one of the worst QBs in the league? Luck steps up and wins close games. That's all we need out of a quarterback if the team is properly motivated.
Luck has been sensational all season for a rookie QB. He is already one of the best in the league and will be elite for many years. Trying to compare Schaub to him is silly, because Schaub has never had that type of potential.

Bitching about not having an elite level QB is silly as well until you're willing to stink for several years and wait for the perfect opportunity to draft a top QB with potential like Luck had when we got him. Sure, we can draft a ton of 2nd and 3rd rounders, but they are all a lot bigger role of the dice.
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Luck! Griffin! Wilson! One of them.
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