Houston Texans @ Indianapolis Colts. Noon. 12/30. **Official GameDay Thread**

[fiasco west]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

But they're not mediocore, they're 12-4...

& when we get that talent capable of becoming great but we can't protect him what will u say then? I dont deny that schaub is an issue back there at times, but to ignore this teams o-line & playcalling issues is just flat out irresponsible analysis...


Yes every team has holes, but no team that has serious superbowl aspirations has o-line issues this bad...besides we've got more than an issue....we have ISSUES all over this team

I'm telling you guys they mishandled the cap.

They had to. No way the Eagles can fit all of those big names on their team and EVEN the Jets were ready to pick up Aso and try to maneuver around the cap to do so....

Yet the Texans are the team cutting pro-bowl players like Winston and his false starts and Demeco. Say what you will about those guys but they were leaders. Winston was a great run blocker and it showed and 'Meco showed up big time in the playoffs last year and in big games.

Now we will be looking to replace guys we already had.

[GP]

Originally Posted by JB

I have never been discouraged by this team before now. Any one think they have a shot at beating the Bengals next week?

Well, at least you were around the past few years to berate anybody and bad mouth them for trying to show you what you just now found out (on your own) today.

I mean, hey...that makes it ALL GOOD, JB.

We're going the beat the Bengals, but then we have to play N.E. on the road and then play Denver in Denver IF we were to somehow lock the Patriots into a deep freezer on the day we play them.

You get one more game to feel like your old self again, JB. Then you'll be treated to a colossal ass-kicking at the hands of Brady & Co. to jog your memory of this conversation.

By the way; Happy New Year.

[bckey]

Originally Posted by fiasco west

Who cares?

The Patriots were the worst 16-0 playoff team in history too.

At least they went to the superbowl and played ball all the way to the end.

[GP]

Originally Posted by fiasco west

I'm telling you guys they mishandled the cap.

They had to. No way the Eagles can fit all of those big names on their team and EVEN the Jets were ready to pick up Aso and try to maneuver around the cap to do so....

Yet the Texans are the team cutting pro-bowl players like Winston and his false starts and Demeco. Say what you will about those guys but they were leaders. Winston was a great run blocker and it showed and 'Meco showed up big time in the playoffs last year and in big games.

Now we will be looking to replace guys we already had.

We're screwed because we gave Schaub a new deal after GAME ONE of this season.

That was a huge, huge, HUGE mistake. They should have made him play out the whole year. THAT was the tightening of the noose. Before that, we had a shot at slipping out of the noose. NOW? No way.

We have officially saddled ourselves with Schaub and Kubiak for at least the next two seasons...maybe even a 3rd year too. If not 4!

[bckey]

Originally Posted by hervoyel

just nothing but disgust and loathing in my heart for this heartless bunch of bums. Sorry is the only word i can think of that accurately describes them and their lousy head coach. Anyone who thinks gary kubiak is a good hc at this point or thinks that his players always having his back means anything is deluded. Sure they love him, he's their buddy. Clearly though none of them feel the need to hold themselves accountable to him or each other. I've been watching this pretend hc build his team for 7 seasons and from nearly the very start i knew deep down that all this construction was taking place on a bad foundation. Bad play calling, bad clock management, an inability to get the team up for important games, an irrational loyalty to underperforming players and coaches, and his constant refusal to go out and hire a dc that knew what he was doing told me that this guy wasnt hc material and nothing has changed. Proud of 12-4? Understand that it would be just another 8-8 or 9-7 if mcnair hadn't forced wade on kubiak last year. They're as messed up as they ever were and won't get any better without a coaching change (which naturally will lead to a qb change). We spend 6 years rebuilding from 2-14, the colts do it in 1. Do the math and draw your own conclusions about the quality of our coaching staff and players.

rft never mind.. just got the must spread blah blah blah

[ziggy29]

Originally Posted by GP

We're screwed because we gave Schaub a new deal after GAME ONE of this season.

The Jets and Mark Sanchez say "hi".

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

Just nothing but disgust and loathing in my heart for this heartless bunch of bums. Sorry is the only word I can think of that accurately describes them and their lousy head coach. Anyone who thinks Gary Kubiak is a good HC at this point or thinks that his players always having his back means anything is deluded. Sure they love him, he's their buddy. Clearly though none of them feel the need to hold themselves accountable to him or each other. I've been watching this pretend HC build his team for 7 seasons and from nearly the very start I knew deep down that all this construction was taking place on a bad foundation. Bad play calling, bad clock management, an inability to get the team up for important games, an irrational loyalty to underperforming players and coaches, and his constant refusal to go out and hire a DC that knew what he was doing told me that this guy wasnt HC material and nothing has changed. Proud of 12-4? Understand that it would be just another 8-8 or 9-7 if McNair hadn't forced Wade on Kubiak last year. They're as messed up as they ever were and won't get any better without a coaching change (Which naturally will lead to a QB change). We spend 6 years rebuilding from 2-14, the Colts do it in 1. Do the math and draw your own conclusions about the quality of our coaching staff and players.

And it's not even the quality of all of our players. If we seriously had a better coach (Cowher) and a better QB (Manning, Wilson, whoever), the Texans would be in much better shape. The defense has players. The offense has players. The team just doesn't have a competent QB or HC. That's what is holding them back. Some right side OL help wouldn't hurt either, but the biggest issues are the two "leaders" of the team.

No amount of questioning each other's manhood will help this team now. That crowd at Reliant is going to boo and boo if they play like they have the past five weeks again next week.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

And it's not even the quality of all of our players. If we seriously had a better coach (Cowher) and a better QB (Manning, Wilson, whoever), the Texans would be in much better shape. The defense has players. The offense has players. The team just doesn't have a competent QB or HC. That's what is holding them back. Some right side OL help wouldn't hurt either, but the biggest issues are the two "leaders" of the team.

No amount of questioning each other's manhood will help this team now. That crowd at Reliant is going to boo and boo if they play like they have the past five weeks again next week.

2 of the sacks on Schaub happened before he even got to to the top of his 5 step drop....let me say it again a different way....Schaub can't even finish dropping back before someone has their hands on him....and you say that all we need is " some" o-line help? That right side is atrocious in every aspect of our offense.

[MojoX]

Originally Posted by Hervoyel

We spend 6 years rebuilding from 2-14, the Colts do it in 1. Do the math and draw your own conclusions about the quality of our coaching staff and players.

This is about sucking in just the right draft. Colts tanked the year Luck and RGIII were in the draft. Texans sucked the most when there was no Cam Newton, Luck, or RGIII. Didn't require genius to rebuild with last years #1 pick.

[MojoX]

Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

And it's not even the quality of all of our players. If we seriously had a better coach (Cowher) and a better QB (Manning, Wilson, whoever), the Texans would be in much better shape. The defense has players. The offense has players. The team just doesn't have a competent QB or HC. That's what is holding them back. Some right side OL help wouldn't hurt either, but the biggest issues are the two "leaders" of the team.

No amount of questioning each other's manhood will help this team now. That crowd at Reliant is going to boo and boo if they play like they have the past five weeks again next week.

I think if either the HC or QB were better the team would be in better shape. Doesn't have to be both.

[False Start]

It helps with my Oilers flashbacks.

[michaelm]

Originally Posted by qqert

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean...

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[qqert]

Originally Posted by michaelm

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean...

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means anyone holding out hope for texans in playoffs and thinking kubiak/schaub will get job done is in for .. a rude awakening.

[Thorn]

This team might, MIGHT, win their wild card game with the Bengals, but this team is not getting past Denver or New England on the road.

I'm already expecting the worse. And another off season of wondering why. Oh well. I'm happy some of the individual players will get recognition. We can watch them in the Pro Bowl this year since they'll be avaliable.

[chicagotexan2]

Matt schaub leading this team in the playoffs will go down faster than a chubby intern in the White House. There is no fight in this offense and the D is playing average at best. I think we'll win the first playoff game then it'll be lights out.

[midway]

Originally Posted by chicagotexan2

Matt schaub leading this team in the playoffs will go down faster than a chubby intern in the White House. There is no fight in this offense and the D is playing average at best. I think we'll win the first playoff game then it'll be lights out.

You've got more confidence than most, more than I have, certainly. We're not beating the Bengals.

[TheMatrix31]

Gonna be disgusting if we beat Cincinnati and if/when we lose to New England. As if Boston sports fans werent insufferable enough.

[ziggy29]

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31

Gonna be disgusting if we beat Cincinnati and if/when we lose to New England. As if Boston sports fans werent insufferable enough.

I used to have some pity on the long-suffering Boston fan before the turn of the millennium.

Then they suddenly started winning championships -- in all major team sports -- and now, I even want New York teams to beat them.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by MojoX

This is about sucking in just the right draft. Colts tanked the year Luck and RGIII were in the draft. Texans sucked the most when there was no Cam Newton, Luck, or RGIII. Didn't require genius to rebuild with last years #1 pick.

Colts had first pick in years for Elway, P Manning, and now Luck. This is a franchise that knows when to tank! Spurs are jealous!

[chicagotexan2]

This team picked a bad time to suck.