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Old 12-28-2012   #41
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Someone please explain to me like I'm a 5 year old how sock length effects the game of football?
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For NFL players, football is a game of preservation. For fans in stadiums and in front of TV sets, it's a game of presentation.
No sports league has a stronger marriage with television than the NFL, as evidenced by its new eight-year, $17.6 billion TV contract. No league has a keener interest in showcasing its athletes and sponsors at their eye-pleasing best.

That's why while the Packers and Lions are knocked down and bloodied in tonight's game, televised nationally on ESPN, they'll also be expected to keep their uniforms neat and commercially correct.

NFL players wear their socks according to league standards. They keep their jerseys tucked in. They keep do-rags from hanging out of their helmets. They display logos only of companies that are NFL licensees.

If they don't, it's costly. The NFL has a strict system of inspection and fines, from $5,000 to $100,000, to make sure uniforms are, well, uniform.

"The NFL wants to present a professional product on the field for the fans and to protect the business relationships that surround the game," said Chris Widmaier, NFL director of corporate communications.

All NFL stadiums have uniform inspectors, and Greg Boyd, a defensive lineman during 1977-84 for the Broncos and four other NFL teams, fills that spot at Mile High Stadium. He's executive director of the Colorado office of Communities in Schools, a nationwide dropout-prevention program, and his friends can get confused about his Sunday job.

"They'll say, `So you design the uniforms?' " Boyd said, laughing.

"I tell them, `No, I just make sure they wear them the way they were designed.'

"A lot of guys will say, `If I wear my socks up or down, how does that affect the way I play?' They have not yet understood this is about show business and the networks and pro lines who have paid to use NFL licensing."

This is about show business and the networks and pro lines who have paid to use NFL licensing.

Remember the uproar created by Bears quarterback Jim McMahon when during the 1986 season he wore a shoe company headband, unlicensed by the NFL? McMahon was warned not to wear the headband in the Super Bowl by then-commissioner Pete Rozelle and complied by wearing a plain headband on which he wrote "Rozelle." McMahon avoided a fine that today would be $100,000.

"The league wants everybody to look presentable because we represent them," Arizona running back Adrian Murrell said.

"On the other hand, sometimes it's a little redundant with some of the things they try to enforce: `Hey, Murrell, get those socks up!' Sometimes I get messed up and my shirt comes out and I don't have time all the time to put it back in."

High school and college players are also subject to uniform regulations set by the National Federation of State High School Associations and the NCAA. Unlike the NFL, though, game officials are the sole uniform inspectors for high school and college games -- and violators are not fined.

In the NFL, regular-season fines for sloppy uniforms start at $5,000. Fines for unlicensed logos start at $10,000 and can reach $100,000 for the Super Bowl.

"Nothing against NASCAR, but we don't want decals stuck everywhere," said Ed Reynolds, a former Patriots linebacker who is NFL assistant director of football development and oversees the inspectors.

"We don't want a guy sitting on the sidelines with `Joe's Bar and Grill' on his head.

"If the Chiefs are playing the Broncos, it's a big game, and if a guy can sneak (an unlicensed logo) just for a few seconds, it's worth a tremendous amount of money to the company he's trying to exhibit."
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Goodell is such a big turd that from this day forward I will now call going #2 as taking a Goodell.
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Why thank you sir for an answer that was complete and makes sense overall in the business context. I really didn't expect a reply.
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"Nothing against NASCAR, but we don't want decals stuck everywhere," said Ed Reynolds, a former Patriots linebacker who is NFL assistant director of football development and oversees the inspectors.

"We don't want a guy sitting on the sidelines with `Joe's Bar and Grill' on his head.
Bullsh-t, Ed. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Advertising has increased every year for the past several years. Preseason games are branded so much they're starting to look like NASCAR cars. No, y'all are OK with NASCAR decals, just so long as the NFL is getting paid for it and not the players.
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I think in this case, the fact that everyone else's white socks weren't displayed in the manner that Kj's were is why he was fined. I could be wrong, but I think I remember someone else getting fined the same way a couple of years ago.

It's something that's usually not called, but the team has got to be uniform, or they'll fine players for it.

By the by..... did Kj get fined for that hit on Reggie Wayne last week, that was called, but wasn't a hit to the head?
I outlined the NFL rules in a previous post. But look at the end of KJ's pant legs.........they are not covering any part of the knee, in fact, they are considerably above the knee, well onto the thigh. He then has his socks meet well above the knee to the thigh. It could have been called "a short/high pants" or a "long/high socks" infraction........the NFL chose the latter.

As far as the statement in bold above.......The collegiate rules do state that unis must maintain uniformity amongst their own team players. However, under NFL rules, unis must maintain uniformity throughout the league. They feel strongly enough about their product to mandate a designated "equipment INSPECTOR" whose job before each game is to make sure that no such infractions occur. Whether, we agree with these seemingly petty rules or not, the teams and players are very aware of the aforementioned.
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I outlined the NFL rules in a previous post. But look at the end of KJ's pant legs.........they are not covering any part of the knee, in fact, they are considerably above the knee, well onto the thigh. He then has his socks meet well above the knee to the thigh. It could have been called "a short/high pants" or a "long/high socks" infraction........the NFL chose the latter.

As far as the statement in bold above.......The collegiate rules do state that unis must maintain uniformity amongst their own team players. However, under NFL rules, unis must maintain uniformity throughout the league. They feel strongly enough about their product to mandate a designated "equipment INSPECTOR" whose job before each game is to make sure that no such infractions occur. Whether, we agree with these seemingly petty rules or not, the teams and players are very aware of the aforementioned.
I pulled up a bunch of games randomly, and there's no such thing as "uni" in uniform.

In a game against the Dolphins in 09, guys that wear high socks (that I noticed) were Mario, Barwin, Quin, Pollard, Vontae Davis, and one of the Dolphins safeties. Foster (wearing #37 at the time) also wore high socks, one of them about an inch higher than the other.

Looks like Foster still wear them socks the same way; one higher than the other.

This year, I saw Barwin, McCain, #26 on the Broncos, Vontae Davis (now with the Colts) and a Colts safety.

In fact, the players (from all the teams that I saw thus far) wear their socks differently. Some pull them really low just above the ankle, some an inch higher, and so on.

This stupid fine is just ridiculous!
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I pulled up a bunch of games randomly, and there's no such thing as "uni" in uniform.

In a game against the Dolphins in 09, guys that wear high socks (that I noticed) were Mario, Barwin, Quin, Pollard, Vontae Davis, and one of the Dolphins safeties. Foster (wearing #37 at the time) also wore high socks, one of them about an inch higher than the other.

Looks like Foster still wear them socks the same way; one higher than the other.

This year, I saw Barwin, McCain, #26 on the Broncos, Vontae Davis (now with the Colts) and a Colts safety.

In fact, the players (from all the teams that I saw thus far) wear their socks differently. Some pull them really low just above the ankle, some an inch higher, and so on.

This stupid fine is just ridiculous!

Don't kill the messenger, the rules are as I posted them. Like I said earlier (as in the AJ photos I posted), that sort of fine seems to be delved out very arbitrarily.
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God'ell is all about saftey. Unless it comes to protection of the eyes. Orlando Brown's (RIP) was essentially ruined by a wayward Jeff Triplette wayward beanbag throw. (Apparently he is worse at throwing things than he is at reffing. Although that's hard to believe.) Brown had glaucoma at the time and won a lawsuit, plus got his $$$$ back from the league suspension he received. All of this could've been avoided without all of these silly rules. Although I agree with uniforms being the same, the NFL goes overboard on things like this to protect (advertising $$$$) the shield.

God'ell is a hypocrite who's just carrying out orders from the men who really run the NFL. (Mara/Kraft) They are ruining the game for $$$$. (Concussion lawsuits/advertising) I wish John Mara shared the vision of his dad Wellington (TV revenue sharing plan that he devised) and put the good of the game above $$$$. The NFL needs to put the good of the game 1st and cut a deal with the ex-players on the concussion lawsuit thing. Take their losses, make all players currently playing, or draftees sign a waiver excluding the NFL from concussion lawsuits going forward and quit bastardizing the game.

God'ell has the power to persuade the owners to do this. But he's such a panzy it will never happen. He's too busy worying about players socks/do rags to make a meaningful impact on the game unlike his predecessors Tags/Rozelle. I mean God'ell is so inept that Tags had to come in and clean up the bounty gate mess that God'ell created because he jumped the gun suspending players with flimsy evidence at best.

But God'ell will be around for a long time because he made the owners alot of $$$$$ (Thanks DeMaurice) in the last CBA negs. (To the detriment of the game.)
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God'ell is all about saftey. Unless it comes to protection of the eyes. Orlando Brown's (RIP) was essentially ruined by a wayward Jeff Triplette wayward beanbag throw. (Apparently he is worse at throwing things than he is at reffing. Although that's hard to believe.) Brown had glaucoma at the time and won a lawsuit, plus got his $$$$ back from the league suspension he received. All of this could've been avoided without all of these silly rules. Although I agree with uniforms being the same, the NFL goes overboard on things like this to protect (advertising $$$$) the shield.

God'ell is a hypocrite who's just carrying out orders from the men who really run the NFL. (Mara/Kraft) They are ruining the game for $$$$. (Concussion lawsuits/advertising) I wish John Mara shared the vision of his dad Wellington (TV revenue sharing plan that he devised) and put the good of the game above $$$$. The NFL needs to put the good of the game 1st and cut a deal with the ex-players on the concussion lawsuit thing. Take their losses, make all players currently playing, or draftees sign a waiver excluding the NFL from concussion lawsuits going forward and quit bastardizing the game.

God'ell has the power to persuade the owners to do this. But he's such a panzy it will never happen. He's too busy worying about players socks/do rags to make a meaningful impact on the game unlike his predecessors Tags/Rozelle. I mean God'ell is so inept that Tags had to come in and clean up the bounty gate mess that God'ell created because he jumped the gun suspending players with flimsy evidence at best.

But God'ell will be around for a long time because he made the owners alot of $$$$$ (Thanks DeMaurice) in the last CBA negs. (To the detriment of the game.)
There have been way too many rules created recently to keep track of and correctly interpret, not only as fans..........

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I really think, in the entire span of the english language, the word that best fits this situation as a response is:

Crap.

If I was KJ I'd send them 40K. It's going to charity after all. That was a great hit, that's the kind of hits you want. Hard hits where nobody got hurt and they fine him for that because he has the money. Slausen should be paying Cushing's salary with that dirt pile he pulled but he couldn't afford it.

This is crap.

I say if you're going to get a fine for a big hit, you may as well try to give the guy a concussion as well. Or maybe you could submarine at his knees and see if that doesn't leave him hobbling around? Maybe you could just come at him with your hand raised so he can see you coming, try to shake his hand and ask him to take a knee?! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!
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He should also wear shorts with above the knee socks, kinda like those other football players.
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Looks kj wants another fine.
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Looks kj wants another fine.
I'm glad he hasn't given up his aggresive play.
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I'm glad he hasn't given up his aggresive play.
Me too. I gotta respect a young guy that lays the wood like that after getting fined for basically hitting somebody too hard. Screw that! Pay the fine and knock the next mother out!
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