Houston Texans @ Indianapolis Colts. Noon. 12/30. **Official GameDay Thread**

[GP]

I like how it's wrong for the defense to have given up when all they have ever done is cover for Gary's inabilities for the past two years.

When Wade was hired, I said two things: (1) The only thing that can go wrong is if Wade' defense is so dominant that it permits Kubiak to rely on it too much, and (2) If that happens, it will cause a meltdown across the whole team.

You guys can challenge me if you want. I said that in the threads back in early 2011 when the defense was shaping up and looking dominant.

This is now a team divided. One group, and I believe rightfully so, feels it's being screwed over by an inferiorly coached offense. Despite that, the defense continued to try.

But when your HC decides to try a 53-yd. FG rather than punt and pin the Colts deep...you have to go "OK, WTH? Seriously? LOL. OMG. OK, ok, ok....fine."

The only worse thing that could happen is for Wade to become HC. He's softer as a HC than Gary is.

[Nawzer]

Defense was playing really well up until that long ridiculous TD. But then just laid down and I think they realized there's no way that this offense was going to lead a comeback 2 scores down. This offense is just not built that way to play from behind a lot. Bottom line is and this is something I've said many times before that unless Kubiak is fired this is what this is all that the Texans are capable of doing. I appreciate for turning us around after the Capers era and making us a good team, but he's not the guy to lead us to the Super Bowl.

[eriadoc]

Originally Posted by fiasco west

Exactly. It's not all on Kubiak.

3rd and 23 and you give that up? Really? A TD? How does that happen? That's on players and coaches and the defense played undisciplined today jumping offsides as much as they could.

Well to be fair, they probably never practice against anything but a draw play or short pass in that situation.

[Goodwrench3]

God,our O-Line is terrible.

[Wolf]

Seems we need to use the pass to set up Foster. When we get into more of an attack mode with he passing game, then it opens up he running game

[bckey]

The Texans are officially the worst 12-4 team in history. What an embarrassment.

[bckey]

How about that game Matrix? Didn't matter right?

[eriadoc]

Ahh, blessed, wonderful Knob Creek. Take this game away.

[mariowillshine15]

The Cardinals backed into the playoffs at 9-7 and were thought to be at the time the worst playoff team ever. They were a play short of a Super Bowl.

They did have a great QB though....

[Premier]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

And you keep thinking that this teams issues are limited to the qb...

whatever dude, keep avoiding the real issue.. every team has liabilities somewhere. weve seen good/great quarterbacks make average teams better. the texans arent going anywhere until schaub is gone and the texans have a game changing qb.. schaub is mediocrity, therefore the texans will be stiuck in mediocrity.. im tired of "he knows the system" being the only redeeming quality about schaub..

[Dread-Head]

Wish CBS would shut the F V C K up about it....

[fiasco west]

Originally Posted by bckey

The Texans are officially the worst 12-4 team in history. What an embarrassment.

Who cares?

The Patriots were the worst 16-0 playoff team in history too.

[JB]

I have never been discouraged by this team before now. Any one think they have a shot at beating the Bengals next week?

[Premier]

Originally Posted by eriadoc

Well to be fair, they probably never practice against anything but a draw play or short pass in that situation.

also they never get to see a good qb step up strong and throw a bullet down field..

[mariowillshine15]

Originally Posted by JB

I have never been discouraged by this team before now. Any one think they have a shot at beating the Bengals next week?

They barely beat Baltimore today who was playing their backups. Yeah we have a chance.

[Hervoyel]

Just nothing but disgust and loathing in my heart for this heartless bunch of bums. Sorry is the only word I can think of that accurately describes them and their lousy head coach. Anyone who thinks Gary Kubiak is a good HC at this point or thinks that his players always having his back means anything is deluded. Sure they love him, he's their buddy. Clearly though none of them feel the need to hold themselves accountable to him or each other. I've been watching this pretend HC build his team for 7 seasons and from nearly the very start I knew deep down that all this construction was taking place on a bad foundation. Bad play calling, bad clock management, an inability to get the team up for important games, an irrational loyalty to underperforming players and coaches, and his constant refusal to go out and hire a DC that knew what he was doing told me that this guy wasnt HC material and nothing has changed. Proud of 12-4? Understand that it would be just another 8-8 or 9-7 if McNair hadn't forced Wade on Kubiak last year. They're as messed up as they ever were and won't get any better without a coaching change (Which naturally will lead to a QB change). We spend 6 years rebuilding from 2-14, the Colts do it in 1. Do the math and draw your own conclusions about the quality of our coaching staff and players.

[arb729]

If someone can help me understand the cap rules correctly, cutting Matt would be a 14 million cap hit for next year? 17.5M bonus, minus this year's 3.5? Or does this contract kick in next year? Just trying to gauge the difficult in making a QB change.

Edit: should add that I'm not quite ready to really kick and scream for that kind of move, just curious more than anything.

[qqert]

only one explanation why a team with this much suck can have a 12-win season.

this game is rigged!

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by Premier

whatever dude, keep avoiding the real issue.. every team has liabilities somewhere. weve seen good/great quarterbacks make average teams better. the texans arent going anywhere until schaub is gone and the texans have a game changing qb.. schaub is mediocrity, therefore the texans will be stiuck in mediocrity..

But they're not mediocore, they're 12-4...

& when we get that talent capable of becoming great but we can't protect him what will u say then? I dont deny that schaub is an issue back there at times, but to ignore this teams o-line & playcalling issues is just flat out irresponsible analysis...


Yes every team has holes, but no team that has serious superbowl aspirations has o-line issues this bad...besides we've got more than an issue....we have ISSUES all over this team

[Uncle Rico]

Kubiak needs more competent counsel on the sidelines as well. He is overwhelmed at times. Norv Turner if not picked up as a HC somewhere would be a nice fit. Add more wrinkles to a stale offensive gameplan.

No matter what the majority feel should happen with the firings of the coach and QB, it wll not happen. this city is stuck with this team as assembled for the foreseeable future.