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Old 12-23-2012   #161
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I think everyone must have forgot that Kubiak is still the head coach of the Texans and the main reason for the Texans' success was that the defense was made a lot better by Wade Phillips and that the AFC South is no longer the strong division it once was. I'm glad that the Texans have won 12 games this season and clinched the division. Now there will be less tolerance in this city for putrid performances like we saw today. A couple of years ago, after a loss like this, the owner would come out and say, "We're on the right track." Kubiak has definitely made this team better, but I really don't think he can win a Super Bowl. This is the second season in a row where the team started strong early in the season, but finished with a whimper. If the Texans ever want to win a championship, they need a new head coach.
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I think everyone must have forgot that Kubiak is still the head coach of the Texans and the main reason for the Texans' success was that the defense was made a lot better by Wade Phillips and that the AFC South is no longer the strong division it once was. I'm glad that the Texans have won 12 games this season and clinched the division. Now there will be less tolerance in this city for putrid performances like we saw today. A couple of years ago, after a loss like this, the owner would come out and say, "We're on the right track." Kubiak has definitely made this team better, but I really don't think he can win a Super Bowl. This is the second season in a row where the team started strong early in the season, but finished with a whimper. If the Texans ever want to win a championship, they need a new head coach.
I thought Houston did themselves very proud last year. After all those key injuries and having to rely on TJ to close the deal on the playoffs, beating Cincy, then taking the Ravens to the brink before Jacoby did his brain fart.

Whimper?? No way. That team is a monster compared to the team I saw today.
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Breaks?

There are usually breaks.

When two teams that are close in level of talents meet, usually the one that can capitalize on those breaks win.

The Niners had some breaks going their way; they didn't fully capitalize on them the way the Packers and the Pats capitalized against us; otherwise that game would have been a run away.

The Packs capitalized fully on our two critical unforced errors (Barwin and Posey).

The Pats capitalized on our lack of preparation when we don't have guys out there quickly enough on coverage. Wade had dueled with BB of time.
We didn't capitalized on their fumbles.
We had guys with sure hands dropping catches.

Yeah, I would say you can use some breaks against a good team, and you have to minimize your mistakes.

When you do neither, it gets ugly.
You can call it what you want to call it.

I'll call it not being good enough.
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True, but what team hasn't said that? I'm sure the Patriots would have appreciated a few breaks
When I say have breaks go our way I mean get lucky. We aren't good enough.

All teams have breaks go their way, but there is a difference between the patriots having good fortune the jaguars having good fortune. Some teams need more luck than others.
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When I say have breaks go our way I mean get lucky. We aren't good enough.

All teams have breaks go their way, but there is a difference between the patriots having good fortune the jaguars having good fortune. Some teams need more luck than others.
Im reminded of Alec Baldwin's famous scene from Glengary Glennross where he says, "I'd wish you good luck, but you wouldn't know what to do with it."

This team has been unable to cash in on its breaks for the last three weeks.
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This team has been unable to cash in on its breaks for the last three weeks.
Do you mind enumerating those breaks for us please?
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I thought Houston did themselves very proud last year. After all those key injuries and having to rely on TJ to close the deal on the playoffs, beating Cincy, then taking the Ravens to the brink before Jacoby did his brain fart.

Whimper?? No way. That team is a monster compared to the team I saw today.
during the end of the 4th tj yates went in he did somethign shaub didnt do all game... be mobile and extend the play..
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Do you mind enumerating those breaks for us please?
Forced fumble in our opponent's side of the field today that led to a three and out today for one.

Stopping the Pats on 5 consecutive possessions and not scoring a couple of weeks ago.

Are you under the impression that our recent troubles are due to a lack of opportunities?
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I thought Houston did themselves very proud last year. After all those key injuries and having to rely on TJ to close the deal on the playoffs, beating Cincy, then taking the Ravens to the brink before Jacoby did his brain fart.

Whimper?? No way. That team is a monster compared to the team I saw today.
Last year they ended the season with three straight losses to Carolina, Indy, and Tennessee. That loss to the Colts was inexcusable as the starting QB for that game was Dan Orlovsky.

I hope I'm overreacting. I hope the Texans will beat Indy next week and at least make it to the AFC Championship. But I don't think this team has the leadership at head coach to take them that deep.
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Forced fumble in our opponent's side of the field today that led to a three and out today for one.

Stopping the Pats on 5 consecutive possessions and not scoring a couple of weeks ago.

Are you under the impression that our recent troubles are due to a lack of opportunities?
The way your last post read, I was under the impression that there were a lot of breaks...
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I think it was described best last week, when Fouts said ithere was no rhythm, it looks like they are randomly picking plays and seeing if they work.
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I think it was described best last week, when Fouts said ithere was no rhythm, it looks like they are randomly picking plays and seeing if they work.
Exactly. He said it was like "drawing from a hat" or something like that.
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during the end of the 4th tj yates went in he did somethign shaub didnt do all game... be mobile and extend the play..
What a complete joke. TJ did what he does best and he turned the ball over and looked like the back up that he is supposed to be.
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What a complete joke. TJ did what he does best and he turned the ball over and looked like the back up that he is supposed to be.
Give me a break, the guy gets NO REPS at all during the week and was thrown to the wolves being down a million points and gutless Matt didn't even have the sack to finish the game, the game HE FAILED TO KEEP US IN. Don't let a stupid play by a green horn fool you and convince you Matt is legit
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You can call it what you want to call it.

I'll call it not being good enough.
And so nobody is good enough.
The Broncos only have the same record as ours because they played more losing teams.
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Give me a break, the guy gets NO REPS at all during the week and was thrown to the wolves being down a million points and gutless Matt didn't even have the sack to finish the game, the game HE FAILED TO KEEP US IN. Don't let a stupid play by a green horn fool you and convince you Matt is legit
Dude stop it. He came in and he immediately turned the ball over when he got his chance to play. Nothing else to say about that. It happened and he looked just as bad as he did in pre season.
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And so nobody is good enough.
The Broncos only have the same record as ours because they played more losing teams.
I'm talking about how the team plays and you're talking about records and stats.

I've been saying this for a few weeks now after I had my epiphany.

Youre impressed with the record. I get it.

I guess we'll talk when you actually want to discuss the way we play, because results be damned, we've played some mediocre football here in 2012.
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I'm talking about how the team plays and you're talking about records and stats.

I've been saying this for a few weeks now after I had my epiphany.

Youre impressed with the record. I get it.

I guess we'll talk when you actually want to discuss the way we play, because results be damned, we've played some mediocre football here in 2012.
We've played mediocre the entire year?? Sorry, but you can say that for the last few weeks maybe but to say that now is ridiculous when we've lost only 3 games. And you damn sure haven't been saying that since week one, so that is a total exxaggerated point. You have not stated that we've been mediocre when we were on those two winning streaks. Now all of a sudden we've been mediocre in all of 2012? Okkkaaayyy.
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I'm talking about how the team plays and you're talking about records and stats.

I've been saying this for a few weeks now after I had my epiphany.

Youre impressed with the record. I get it.

I guess we'll talk when you actually want to discuss the way we play, because results be damned, we've played some mediocre football here in 2012.
What's the difference with the Broncos?

We beat 2 more team with winning record than they do.
And they have been at least a little more healthy than us.

Why is it so hard to see that we had a more difficult schedule than them?
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We've played mediocre the entire year?? Sorry, but you can say that for the last few weeks maybe but to say that now is ridiculous when we've lost only 3 games. And you damn sure haven't been saying that since week one, so that is a total exxaggerated point. You have not stated that we've been mediocre when we were on those two winning streaks. Now all of a sudden we've been mediocre in all of 2012? Okkkaaayyy.
Been saying it since last years raiders game.
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