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Old 10-26-2012   #21
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Green Bay game taught me to never expect a win based on any team's performance. We're not perfect, we can't blindfold ourselves and whistle while we work and expect to win each game.

News flash: All teams have pride, and when cornered they will out-fight you for the win if you don't fight back.
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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

I see it's time for me to bust out the Christian Ponder files:





Here is a graph through like week 5 or 6 that shows his completion percentage matched up against how far he has to throw the ball:


Here are three passes he threw back to back to back against Tennessee:






Basically Minnesota has some good offensive pieces (Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, and Kalil) and their defense has been playing way over expectation (And they just lost a CB to a broken ankle sooooooooo). This is not Aaron Rodgers we're talking about whipping our asses, it's Christian Ponder. You're perfectly fine selling him very short in my opinion.
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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

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I don't see you guys worrying about Blaine Gabbert as much as this dude, and for all intents and purposes I think Gabbert can at least throw a ball 20+ yards out and it not be a trainwreck.
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An Aerial Assault by Christian Ponder
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I see it's time for me to bust out the Christian Ponder files:





Here is a graph through like week 5 or 6 that shows his completion percentage matched up against how far he has to throw the ball:


Here are three passes he threw back to back to back against Tennessee:




32 on the Titans is part of their culture that has them losing. I love it! "Hey, you could have caught that and got some yardage, but instead, I'm going to tip it to myself for no gain! woohoo!" F the Traitors!




Basically Minnesota has some good offensive pieces (Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, and Kalil) and their defense has been playing way over expectation (And they just lost a CB to a broken ankle sooooooooo). This is not Aaron Rodgers we're talking about whipping our asses, it's Christian Ponder. You're perfectly fine selling him very short in my opinion.
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That was brutal, LOL.
He makes worse decisions on the run than OJ Simpson.
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Any given Sunday......you better worry.....things can change....Adrian Peterson could break open a big one.....not saying he will...but could happen....hell anything can happen in NFL....so saying your not worried.....I would not say that ever.....you better think twice before you say that.

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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

With our LB play we all should be worried Peterson could run for 300yds.

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Re-watching Texans/Colts and @sonofbum was slanting DTs and replacing in the gap with ILBs, but the ILBs didn't do their job vs. the run

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Far too often Dobbins and James either didn't square up the lead blocker or simply took poor angles. Bradie James playing WAY TOO HIGH

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It's not even debatable. Really poor lately RT @ericdkennedy: @LanceZierlein LZ, I'm convinced ILB is the weak point in the D this season

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And while D. Manning was better with his tackling, his instincts were suspect on a couple of plays once again which we didn't see in '11

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@PHABMK6 I know. There is no way that Wade is watching that tape and thinking to himself, "Bradie is doing just fine." It's not possible

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@HoustonDiehards the LB play was pathetic this game. Nobody plays downhill, nobody attacks blockers and nobody plays with instincts
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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

I'd like for the defense to have a stellar game. However, the only important thing to me is that we get the win. I don't care if Adrian runs for 700 yards. As long as we get the W
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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

There's nothing new here.
We've already know about our ILBs.
As long we maintain our gap responsibility, take good angle in pursuit, and play as a team, Peterson can have his 200 yards and we will still win.

The Vikings, on the other hand, have to worry about our offense.
We should take a lead by halftime, and eventually, the Peterson's effect will be lessen. We will control the clock and we will win.

I hope my prognosis comes true so that everybody can enjoy a nice Christmas Holliday.

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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

Robison, the Vikings miniversion of our JJ Watt, very likely will not be play Sunday.......and if he does, I would not expect him to be very effective. He left with a significant shoulder injury last game. That was after already logging a sack to add to his already 6.5 total. Robison's presence has opened the game up for Allen and Williams to reach the QB.

Even if Robison doesn't play, Griffen, who has thus far been used as a 3rd down pass rush specialist, will replace him. After Robison's injury, Griffen came in and ended up with one tackle, one pass deflection, one quarterback hit, several pressures, and a big interception for a TD return. Our O had better game plan not only to keep moving the ball forward, but just as importantly, to protect Schaub from getting too familiar with the topography of the Reliant grass or ceiling.
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For those of you dismissing Ponder. Never forget:



For one game Chad Henne was Dan Marino.
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For those of you dismissing Ponder. Never forget:



For one game Chad Henne was Dan Marino.
Chad Henne is actually a better QB than people give him credit for and is beyond better than Ponder....

12-2 people, let go of the past and focus on the future, HFA through out the playoffs...
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Default Re: Not quite as worried about the Vikings..

Given that running the ball is about all the Vikings can do, this could very well be a low scoring game. While controlling Peterson is important, the fact is he can have a monster game and not necessarily have it translate to the scoreboard (His 210 yard game against the Packers was in a 23-14 Viking loss).

With all the rushing I expect in this game, it could be a very short game with a relatively small number of possesions for each team. Because of that, I think the Texans red zone efficiency is going to play a critical part in this game. An offensive ratio of one TD to five field goals like we had in the Indy game likely won't be good enough.
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12-2 people, let go of the past and focus on the future, HFA through out the playoffs...
^^^ This!

Also, remember that against Henne, we had mis-tackles, guys bumping into each other, guys playing with poor techniques, bad coverage, etc.

It wasn't like Henne was playing great.

Our secondary needs to play as they are capable of, or at least, they need to avoid too many unforced errors.
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^^^ This!

Also, remember that against Henne, we had mis-tackles, guys bumping into each other, guys playing with poor techniques, bad coverage, etc.

It wasn't like Henne was playing great.
Yeah, I think that's kind of the point.
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Given that running the ball is about all the Vikings can do, this could very well be a low scoring game. While controlling Peterson is important, the fact is he can have a monster game and not necessarily have it translate to the scoreboard (His 210 yard game against the Packers was in a 23-14 Viking loss).

With all the rushing I expect in this game, it could be a very short game with a relatively small number of possesions for each team. Because of that, I think the Texans red zone efficiency is going to play a critical part in this game. An offensive ratio of one TD to five field goals like we had in the Indy game likely won't be good enough.
If we have 6 drives that consume 7 minutes each, we'll win for sure!
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Yeah, I think that's kind of the point.
Basically, if both teams bring their A game, we win.

We will probably still win with out B game against their A game, but we cannot afford to slip any more than that.

On the positive side, we should be able to force them into a B game or worse, then the advantage is all ours!
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I think everyone should be worried about this game. The Vikings are very physical and are a winning football team fighting for their playoff lives. They beat the 49ers, Lions, Chicago, and gave Green Bay fits.

Quite honestly, we have only beaten 3 winning teams since October... Colts, Bears, Ravens. We have MAJOR concerns at LB right now.

This is a HUGE game, and they are going to need a lively crowd to help the cause.

Can't wait to get the part started, but I know this will hardly be a cakewalk.
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