WTF is going on with Foster?

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Scooter

or he's having a down year individually.

Or there is no problem, he's running as well as he ever did.






These are not the droids you're looking for.

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Or there is no problem, he's running as well as he ever did.






These are not the droids you're looking for.

Do not see him running as well as he ever did. YPC are down, runs of over 20 yards are down. Broken Tackles (just assuming) must be down. I can almost bet yards after contact have dropped big time. You opinion is that he is running as good as he ever has.

Mine on the other hand is he is running as bad as he ever has. Dont need stats or anything to prove my opinion. I watch the same games you do.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Do not see him running as well as he ever did. YPC are down, runs of over 20 yards are down. Broken Tackles (just assuming) must be down. I can almost bet yards after contact have dropped big time. You opinion is that he is running as good as he ever has.

Mine on the other hand is he is running as bad as he ever has. Dont need stats or anything to prove my opinion. I watch the same games you do.

Please don't bring up the same games we watch!

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Please don't bring up the same games we watch!

We all watch the same games, but we all seem to see different games

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Do not see him running as well as he ever did. YPC are down, runs of over 20 yards are down. Broken Tackles (just assuming) must be down. I can almost bet yards after contact have dropped big time. You opinion is that he is running as good as he ever has.

Mine on the other hand is he is running as bad as he ever has. Dont need stats or anything to prove my opinion. I watch the same games you do.

these aren't the droids you're looking for

I'm with you on this one Ellis, I think 76 is playing Jedi Mind Tricks.

[klockWork]

I can't believe someone here has the audacity to compare todays RB to the great Barry Sanders. That dude is a human flubber ball, defying the laws of motion sometimes. He was never real because the moves he makes on the field was unreal, never been duplicated and never will.
Any more attempt comparing him to anybody should void any arguments of any kind.

Now let's get back to what's real. The quality of run block is not as good as last year. That doesn't mean there aren't any holes to run to. It's just not opening up on Foster terms. Foster patient running style is his biggest enemy right now.
When one side of a line is busted up at the start of the snap there's no time to pick and choose your cutting lane. The only direction is up field and pray that there's light at the other side.
That's why Tate and Forsett are getting more production per carry. Their impatient running style in this case have help them elude being tackle at the LOS.

I'm basically rephrasing myself from my previous post in this thread in case you guys have missed it from all this bickering.

[The Medic01]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Oh lord man my whole point is that good backs find a way regardless.

Fosters style of running requires holes. He is not some Houdini act like Sanders. He relies on vision and cutting and when there is no hole whatsoever he will be stopped.

[76Texan]

I'm taking my laughs to the bank, have fun worrying about numbers.

[SAMURAITEXAN]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

I'm taking my laughs to the bank, have fun worrying about numbers.

I am not worrying about Foster # at all. But I am not laughing at no one. Be humble Grass hopper76!! We are AFC South Champs 2 year in a row !!!

Go Texans!!!

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by SAMURAITEXAN

I am not worrying about Foster # at all. But I am not laughing at no one. Be humble Grass hopper76!! We are AFC South Champs 2 year in a row !!!

Go Texans!!!

The champagne is getting to my head, Sensei;
Please forgive me.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

I'm taking my laughs to the bank, have fun worrying about numbers.

Laugh while you can.

I still think the concerns with Foster are valid. It was nice seeing Newton back, I think that was the biggest difference, & Tate. Maybe Foster is more threatened by Tate in the backfield.

[SAMURAITEXAN]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

The champagne is getting to my head, Sensei;
Please forgive me.

Champagne!!! Drink SAKE instead.

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

I'm taking my laughs to the bank, have fun worrying about numbers.

because he FINALLY had a dominating 4th i feel better, but until i see it a few weeks in a row i will still be concerned

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by The Medic01

Fosters style of running requires holes. He is not some Houdini act like Sanders. He relies on vision and cutting and when there is no hole whatsoever he will be stopped.

In '10 and '11 Foster rarely had rushes for no gain or a loss. This year he has a LOT of them. Today's game was a tale of two halfs. He looked like 2012 Foster in the 1st half and 2010 Foster in the 2nd half.

I'm so very glad he had a big 2nd half today, but I'm still concerned about his play, the amount of carries he's getting and Kubiak's hardheadedness about running him (even though it paid off today) even when he's doing lousy.

BTW, is Forsett hurt? He didn't get a carry today even though Tate was stinking it up.

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Do not see him running as well as he ever did. YPC are down, runs of over 20 yards are down. Broken Tackles (just assuming) must be down. I can almost bet yards after contact have dropped big time. You opinion is that he is running as good as he ever has.

Mine on the other hand is he is running as bad as he ever has. Dont need stats or anything to prove my opinion. I watch the same games you do.

There is nothing wrong with Foster. He is better in every category except YPC. In fact he may be better this year than his 2010 season.

I just think we are spoiled.

http://www.nfl.com/player/arianfoster/79555/profile

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

There is nothing wrong with Foster. He is better in every category except YPC. In fact he may be better this year than his 2010 season.

I just think we are spoiled.

http://www.nfl.com/player/arianfoster/79555/profile

Well when you run him as much as we have you have to expect him to be up there in every category. If u run a RB a 1000 times and he has a 1.5 YPC average he will have a pretty good season well according to some of the categories anyways.

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

There is nothing wrong with Foster. He is better in every category except YPC. In fact he may be better this year than his 2010 season.

I just think we are spoiled.

http://www.nfl.com/player/arianfoster/79555/profile

You must be smoking crack.

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by DocBar

You must be smoking crack.

Please explain?

[TEXANRED]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

Well when you run him as much as we have you have to expect him to be up there in every category. If u run a RB a 1000 times and he has a 1.5 YPC average he will have a pretty good season well according to some of the categories anyways.

Looking at another 1600 yard season, 14 plus touchdowns, doing all that despite having a crap FB, RTG, and RTT.

I guess we have forgotten what life was like when Stacey Mack was totting he rock for us.

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by TEXANRED

Looking at another 1600 yard season, 14 plus touchdowns, doing all that despite having a crap FB, RTG, and RTT.

I guess we have forgotten what life was like when Stacey Mack was totting he rock for us.

Did i ever say foster was a bust, hell no def one of my favorite running backs of all time, and i'm glad we resigned him to a long contract. All i said was he is having an off season. Plus i remember a guy named Domanick Davis who ran very well behind very bad o-line, just saying.