Kubiak calls out players manhood

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Rey

It's not the results tk.

It's THE WAY WE PLAY.

We play the same kind of ball we always have under kubiak. It's just now we have more talent. But when you run into a better team on a mission you get what you get this past Monday. When you face Detroit, the jags and teams like that you just out talent them.

You name a few games where the patriots might not have been on top of their game (I dont know...I didn't watch, maybe the other teams just stepped their game up) but assumning you're right, those games are aberrations for them...

Games where we play good football for most of the game are aberrations for us.

Sooo the Cardinals, Seahawks, and Ravens "out talented" Tom Brady and the Patriots??

[Rey]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

Sooo the Cardinals, Seahawks, and Ravens "out talented" Tom Brady and the Patriots??

Please go back and read what I wrote. I can't even respond to that because it has 0 to do with what I said.

I said either those teams rose their game or the patriots played worse than they normally do.

You think coaching and having a team come out prepared to play was the reason we beat Detroit?

No, we got a little lucky and their coach might happen to be worse at managing the game than ours.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Rey

Please go back and read what I wrote. I can't even respond to that because it has 0 to do with what I said.

I said either those teams rose their game or the patriots played worse than they normally do.

You think coaching and having a team come out prepared to play was the reason we beat Detroit?

No, we got a little lucky and their coach might happen to be worse at managing the game than ours.

Okay... I'll give you that point... Those teams could have upped their play level to go against the Pats... or Belichick could have taken those teams lightly and under prepared... or Brady may not have been razor sharp against them like he was against us.
Most likely it was some combination of those three things...

My original response was aimed at your point that we got most of our 11 wins off of luck and/or superior talent. I doubt that seriously. But I'm not going to waste your time trying to convince you otherwise.

Sorry I interrupted your mutual rant society meeting.

Enjoy.


Edit:
For the Official Record, no one is more pissed about getting our collective a$$es kicked (nation TV or not) than I am. The difference is, I put the blame on the players who are paid to make the damned plays, throw the damned ball accurately, catch the damned ball (looking at you KW), not block in the back, and do something to stop Vince Wolfolk from occupying our backfield. I don't care what's called, it's up to the players to make it happen.
THEY didn't.
THEY should be called out
And NO, HELL No, the coaches - from Kubiak on down - are not without fault. But when my boss gives me a job, its on ME to get it done. It's only on him when he knows, before he asks, that I can't do it. That is why I hold the players responsible.
/Rant

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

Games where we play good football for most of the game are aberrations for us.

I'm sorry you guys had to wait so long to say, "I told you so." I'm sorry Kubiak said something, or did something to make you think we were as good as the Patriots & the Packers. Why else would you be so mad? As if someone lied to you.

I'm sorry we aren't as dominating a team as you would like us to be when we're starting our second RG (rookie) third RT, third OLB, third ILB, 4th CB, lost our best defensive player, & our best corner back hasn't been healthy all year.

I'm sorry that the best this coaching staff can do with their third string players is 11-2.

I'm sorry we haven't played any good football this year & still manage to be 11-2 despite playing 4 division leaders & the Packers.

I'm sorry the team we have doesn't act like a team that has been in 6 Super Bowls & won 3.

I'm sorry that "W-Ls is all that matters!!!" doesn't matter any more since we are 11-2.

I wish I could say something to help you enjoy what the team accomplished instead of fixating on what they haven't, or get all bent out of shape about losing a game they haven't even played yet.

I'm sorry.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

I'm sorry you guys had to wait so long to say, "I told you so." I'm sorry Kubiak said something, or did something to make you think we were as good as the Patriots & the Packers. Why else would you be so mad? As if someone lied to you.

I'm sorry we aren't as dominating a team as you would like us to be when we're starting our second RG (rookie) third RT, third OLB, third ILB, 4th CB, lost our best defensive player, & our best corner back hasn't been healthy all year.

I'm sorry that the best this coaching staff can do with their third string players is 11-2.

I'm sorry we haven't played any good football this year & still manage to be 11-2 despite playing 4 division leaders & the Packers.

I'm sorry that "W-Ls is all that matters!!!" doesn't matter any more since we are 11-2.

I wish I could say something to help you enjoy what the team accomplished instead of fixating on what they haven't, or get all bent out of shape about losing a game they haven't even played yet.

I'm sorry.

Sorry ain't good enuff!!

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by qqert

to my eyes, this was a coaching loss. not a players failing to make plays loss.
i can only count to ten, but surely there's more boneheaded plays called in that game than my fingers?

I can count to a hundred.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

It's not the results tk.

It's THE WAY WE PLAY.

We play the same kind of ball we always have under kubiak. It's just now we have more talent. But when you run into a better team on a mission you get what you get this past Monday. When you face Detroit, the jags and teams like that you just out talent them....eventually....

You name a few games where the patriots might not have been on top of their game (I dont know...I didn't watch, maybe the other teams just stepped their game up) but assumning you're right, those games are aberrations for them...

Games where we play good football for most of the game are aberrations for us.

You haven't been to the Pats MB. The grass is always greener on the other side.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

You haven't been to the Pats MB. The grass is always greener on the other side.

Yeah...I'd say three Superbowl trophies in 5 appearances and an all time great coach and QB sure looks greener from here...

I think your post should be directed at Pats fans because to a Texans fan it makes no sense...

[HoustonFrog]

This is just a throw away question but what about Wade in all if this? Gary is being bad cop now but from being a Dallas fan I know Wade plans and executes big time defenses but he isn't inspiring. He is a slow good old boy. Just an observation since D is getting torched and Gary is laying down the law. Carry on.

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by Thorn

i hope they were all listening to this part.

I hope one of them stood up and said

"you've seen what it takes to be a championship play calling head coach....blah blah blah"

Just saying

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Rey

Yeah...I'd say three Superbowl trophies in 5 appearances and an all time great coach and QB sure looks greener from here...

I think your post should be directed at Pats fans because to a Texans fan it makes no sense...

What does the past have to do with the future?
Before the Packers game, we were unbeaten.

Just this week, plenty of Pats fans posted that they couldn't believe they can with the Defense they have.

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

I think we have a team now that is capable to responding to this kind of criticism. In the past, I don't think so, maybe last year. But before that, not at all.

We have a team full of professionals & leaders. I have faith in them.

This sums up how feel.

In the past, we had players *ahem* no names that would be last in and first to leave. We had another player that thought he was being criticized too harshly by Kubiak.

Now, I think we have a group of guys that will take this message to heart. It could be a looooong day for the Colts this Sunday.

[EllisUnit]

We will see them again in the play-offs. It will be epic and it will be at our house and we will destroy them.

[False Start]

O/U on how many, gosh darnets, dangits, and frickin bombs were dropped by Kubiak?

I'm glad Kubes finally did something like this. This teams a wake up call, and maybe this was it

[EllisUnit]

Originally Posted by False Start

O/U on how many, gosh darnets, dangits, and frickin bombs were dropped by Kubiak?

I'm glad Kubes finally did something like this. This teams a wake up call, and maybe this was it

"Its on me" always seemed to work pretty well though

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by False Start

O/U on how many, gosh darnets, dangits, and frickin bombs were dropped by Kubiak?

I'm glad Kubes finally did something like this. This teams a wake up call, and maybe this was it

But FS.... They're "good kids"!!!

[TheMatrix31]

Good! They deserved it!

[False Start]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

But FS.... They're "good kids"!!!

They bust their tails on every play, and are hella of a bunch of ball players!

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by False Start

They bust their tails on every play, and are hella of a bunch of ball players!

LMFAO!!! And they will fight... They will battle fight!!!

[DocBar]

I hope Kubiak looked deep into that mirror himself. Running Foster time after time for 2 freaking yards a carry is as much to blame as anything else. Tate was ripping big yards and keeping him in the doghouse is bull****.

There's plenty of blame to go around for the ass whpping on Monday nite, but Kubes needs to own up to his own shortcomings. He was thoroughly outcoached and should be embarrassed cuz he sure did look bare assed on Monday nite.