Day After Foxborough Massacre - 2013 Mock

[beerlover]

Greetings & salutations fellow Texan mocksters & fans here is my reaction to last nights game. Trying not to over react in the moment, but hey, it is what it is, this is how I cope The middle of Texan D was exposed all night by the Patriots as they jammed the ball down Texan throats, man handling our DT's Cody & Mitchell. I have to admit now may be the time to address this position with a premium pick & Jenkins who would more than plug this hole, much like Wilfork. Otherwise the linebackers need retooled/fortified, another set of hands that can hang onto a pass, improved man coverage from corner/safety position, right side offensive line help a must & Texans, with Garret dinged suffer far too much, need plus blocker to help give Schaub more time so they are razor thin @ TE position.

FIRST ROUND: John Jenkins, NT, Georgia, 6-3 350

Moves fluid despite size, country strong, can both push or plug piles. Separates defenders effectively walling off double teams inside on Watt or Smith. The Patriots ran straight ahead for solid gains all game long against the interior of Texans DL. To fill this big hole Texans need a big run stuffing Nose Tackle who is also disruptive like Vince Wilfork. If need be Texans should move up in order to address position, as you can see Texans have some extra picks to work with here & cashing in now would not be the worst thing in the world. Evaluating this class I've graded out Jenkins as the top pick for Texans/Wade Phillips 3-4.

SECOND ROUND: Brian Winters, OT/OG, Kent State, 6-5 310

Right side is a work in progress & needs to be addressed early, Had Flucker here from Alabama last go around, but don't feel he lasts this long come draft day. Winters is your more typical, athletic ZBS tackle who could also kick inside to RG, that only increases his value to depth starved Texans right side of the OL. Very balanced game can stone defensive ends on left side or pull in run blocking @ Collegiate level. Excellent base & fluid in the hole, can mirror or manhandle would be rushers. Texans must upgrade right side of OL.

THIRD ROUND: Michael Buchanan, OLB/DE, Illinois, 6-5 240

OK peeps, I'm sold moving on without Connor Barwin, he is doing nothing, 2 sacks in 13 games doesn't cut the cheese. Unless he signs on the cheap, Texans do need to add another pass rusher. Of course Brooks will come back next year but Texans need to add a pass rusher who can bend, turn the corner instead of locking up center of his man. The other reason I like Buchanan is he swatts a lot of balls @ line of scrimmage, Texans are also very familiar with program having drafted Whitney last year in 1st rd.

THIRD ROUND (Mario Williams compensatory): Kiko Alonzo, ILB, Oregon, 6-4 246

Great length, smart, instinctive & excellent in coverage. Texans need a bigger, longer cover guy in 3rd down situations who can stick & pull with these hybrid TE's & elusive RB's. Hard worker that will improve & flourish in Wade Phillips system. Gruden made the comment Patriots had drafted a bunch of SEC LB'S who are saying come on Texans lets see what you got & dominated the line of scrimmage. While these two LB's are not SEC or especially high picks like a Mayo, Hightower or Spikes they fill similar roles from the Big 10 (Mercilus/Buchanon) & Pac 12.

FOURTH ROUND: Conner Vernon, WR, Duke, 6-1 200

Schaub needs more receiving options, a smart, plus hands WR that runs tight timing routes & can secure the football in traffic is a must at some point this draft. Would like to spend earlier pick on a bigger, faster body but would require a much higher pick like Marshall Aaron Dobson but Texans also need somebody ready to plug in now & Conner seems like the type who can transition quickly, mature & ultra competitive.

FIFTH ROUND: Tyrann Mathieu, CB/S, LSU, 5-9 178

Despite personal problems, because of playmaking skills & ability to produce on the field Texans should not pass if available this late to address nickle position very least. Would also improve special teams as gunner, that has been woeful at best all season. This is breaking point for me, where value overcomes negative so would hope Texans take a chance on such a high ceiling player @ a position of need.

FIFTH ROUND (Jacoby Jones/Mike Brisel compensatory) Jordan Kovacs, SS, Michigan, 5-11 202

Insurance in case Quin does not resign. Excellent safety prospect this late who will compete & probably win roster spot otherwise from Shiloh Keo. Jordan is a walk on Senior who was very productive during his career with astounding 331 tackles in four years playing for Michigan, his best season was his sophomore year with 116 tackles. Solid in zone coverage & takes good angles in run support.

SIXTH ROUND: Onterio McCalebb, RB/KR, Auburn, 5-9 176

Reminiscent of Holliday pick to help improve special teams. More similar to Dexter McCluster, can fill 3rd down duties, elusive, good hands (not as small as Trindon) has rushed for 2,586 yards, 63 receptions out of the backfield, 8.5 yards per carry & 25.6 yards per return in the SEC.

SEVENTH ROUND: Tanner Hawkinson, OT/OG, Kansas, 6-4 300

Four year starter (LT) who has played under three head coaches, best fit for ZBS probably kicks inside to LG or possibly swing tackle to compete with Gardner. Good mobility & excels in pass protection. Texans need to retool their OL with multiple prospects both early & late to solidify scheme/game planning.

SEVENTH ROUND (Joel Dreessen compensatory): Ben Cotton, TE, 6-6 255

Dreessen was an undrafted free agent, so Texans could wait again until after the draft but why when they could lock up a blocking, big framed TE? Could develop as a pass catcher in time but would fill that role Texans are missing with departure of Joel. As seen last night the loss of Garrett Graham to injury was a bigger factor than most thought, Cotton would provide much needed depth & helping inline blocking pass rushing issue.

[htownfan32]

I think we'd go corner somewhere a little farther up, but if Tyrann Mathieu is there in the fifth... After JJo, KJax and Brice McCain, I'm not too impressed with our CBs. I'd love to have Mathieu on our team, if he can sort out his act. Agree with the NT pick, seems like our 1st rounder is either going to go towards that or towards right side O-line.

Barwin needs to go.

Great mock! Fills quite a bit of gaps in our team, and I like the TE pick too. Losing Graham hurt our offense a bit. We either need Casey to be a TE all the time and use that guy we picked up from the Bears as our FB or we need an extra TE so Casey can play FB.

[2012Champs]

I dont see the Texans picking up Tyrann Mathieu at all

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by 2012Champs

I dont see the Texans picking up Tyrann Mathieu at all

predicated on successful interview process w/Texans (see Posey) have little doubt he can impact Texan secondary, special teams @ multiple positions

[2012Champs]

Originally Posted by beerlover

predicated on successful interview process w/Texans (see Posey) have little doubt he can impact Texan secondary, special teams @ multiple positions

I didnt say he couldnt have an impact not to mention Posey and the Texans' risk certainly isnt the norm for the club

[thunderkyss]

I don't like it.

I do like the second round OT/OG, but I'd rather use the first round pick on a WR. The baddest WR in the draft. I don't care if we have to give away our 2014 1st & 2nd. We need real help for AJ.

KDub, whatever. & the kids..... no. Time to get some real talent for Kubiak's offense.

I don't remember the Kubiak offense in Denver being a one man WR show. There were at least three guys you had to account for every game. Rod Smith, Ed McCaffey, & Shanon Sharpe.

[rmartin65]

Originally Posted by beerlover

FIRST ROUND: John Jenkins, NT, Georgia, 6-3 350

Moves fluid despite size, country strong, can both push or plug piles. Separates defenders effectively walling off double teams inside on Watt or Smith. The Patriots ran straight ahead for solid gains all game long against the interior of Texans DL. To fill this big hole Texans need a big run stuffing Nose Tackle who is also disruptive like Vince Wilfork. If need be Texans should move up in order to address position, as you can see Texans have some extra picks to work with here & cashing in now would not be the worst thing in the world. Evaluating this class I've graded out Jenkins as the top pick for Texans/Wade Phillips 3-4.

SECOND ROUND: Brian Winters, OT/OG, Kent State, 6-5 310

Right side is a work in progress & needs to be addressed early, Had Flucker here from Alabama last go around, but don't feel he lasts this long come draft day. Winters is your more typical, athletic ZBS tackle who could also kick inside to RG, that only increases his value to depth starved Texans right side of the OL. Very balanced game can stone defensive ends on left side or pull in run blocking @ Collegiate level. Excellent base & fluid in the hole, can mirror or manhandle would be rushers. Texans must upgrade right side of OL.

THIRD ROUND: Michael Buchanan, OLB/DE, Illinois, 6-5 240

OK peeps, I'm sold moving on without Connor Barwin, he is doing nothing, 2 sacks in 13 games doesn't cut the cheese. Unless he signs on the cheap, Texans do need to add another pass rusher. Of course Brooks will come back next year but Texans need to add a pass rusher who can bend, turn the corner instead of locking up center of his man. The other reason I like Buchanan is he swatts a lot of balls @ line of scrimmage, Texans are also very familiar with program having drafted Whitney last year in 1st rd.

THIRD ROUND (Mario Williams compensatory): Kiko Alonzo, ILB, Oregon, 6-4 246

Great length, smart, instinctive & excellent in coverage. Texans need a bigger, longer cover guy in 3rd down situations who can stick & pull with these hybrid TE's & elusive RB's. Hard worker that will improve & flourish in Wade Phillips system. Gruden made the comment Patriots had drafted a bunch of SEC LB'S who are saying come on Texans lets see what you got & dominated the line of scrimmage. While these two LB's are not SEC or especially high picks like a Mayo, Hightower or Spikes they fill similar roles from the Big 10 (Mercilus/Buchanon) & Pac 12.

FOURTH ROUND: Conner Vernon, WR, Duke, 6-1 200

Schaub needs more receiving options, a smart, plus hands WR that runs tight timing routes & can secure the football in traffic is a must at some point this draft. Would like to spend earlier pick on a bigger, faster body but would require a much higher pick like Marshall Aaron Dobson but Texans also need somebody ready to plug in now & Conner seems like the type who can transition quickly, mature & ultra competitive.

FIFTH ROUND: Tyrann Mathieu, CB/S, LSU, 5-9 178

Despite personal problems, because of playmaking skills & ability to produce on the field Texans should not pass if available this late to address nickle position very least. Would also improve special teams as gunner, that has been woeful at best all season. This is breaking point for me, where value overcomes negative so would hope Texans take a chance on such a high ceiling player @ a position of need.

FIFTH ROUND (Jacoby Jones/Mike Brisel compensatory) Jordan Kovacs, SS, Michigan, 5-11 202

Insurance in case Quin does not resign. Excellent safety prospect this late who will compete & probably win roster spot otherwise from Shiloh Keo. Jordan is a walk on Senior who was very productive during his career with astounding 331 tackles in four years playing for Michigan, his best season was his sophomore year with 116 tackles. Solid in zone coverage & takes good angles in run support.

SIXTH ROUND: Onterio McCalebb, RB/KR, Auburn, 5-9 176

Reminiscent of Holliday pick to help improve special teams. More similar to Dexter McCluster, can fill 3rd down duties, elusive, good hands (not as small as Trindon) has rushed for 2,586 yards, 63 receptions out of the backfield, 8.5 yards per carry & 25.6 yards per return in the SEC.

SEVENTH ROUND: Tanner Hawkinson, OT/OG, Kansas, 6-4 300

Four year starter (LT) who has played under three head coaches, best fit for ZBS probably kicks inside to LG or possibly swing tackle to compete with Gardner. Good mobility & excels in pass protection. Texans need to retool their OL with multiple prospects both early & late to solidify scheme/game planning.

SEVENTH ROUND (Joel Dreessen compensatory): Ben Cotton, TE, 6-6 255

Dreessen was an undrafted free agent, so Texans could wait again until after the draft but why when they could lock up a blocking, big framed TE? Could develop as a pass catcher in time but would fill that role Texans are missing with departure of Joel. As seen last night the loss of Garrett Graham to injury was a bigger factor than most thought, Cotton would provide much needed depth & helping inline blocking pass rushing issue.

Looks good BL. I like most of the players involved, but here are my thoughts:

1) I realize that NT is a huge need, but is Jenkins the guy? He is massive and incredibly strong, but like with all big guys I worry about his athleticism and if he will eat himself out of the league. And it goes without saying that if Jenkins is the pick then the D changes a bit, as Jenkins plays much different than Cody and Mitchell. I like the pick, as I think he has probably the highest upside of the big NTs, but it still worries me.

2) Love it. I think I mocked Winters in the 3rd a couple weeks ago, and I think the 2nd is probably a better place to grab him. He can be a day 1 starter at RT.

3) Meh. I am not wild about this guy, but we do need to upgrade the OLB position. Only 4.5 sacks and 7 TFLs just dont cut it for me.

3) I like this pick though, good call. ILB needs to be upgraded.

4) I like Vernon as well. I am moving away from the idea that we need a future number 1, as AJ is still going strong. Vernon can be an ideal number 2. Great routes and underrated speed/accel.

5) I dont see it BL, I just dont see it. Character issues, size reservations, and has not played in a year. Plus, CB is becoming a much bigger need than the 5th round.

5) I like grabbing a SS here. I dont know much about this guy, but from the internet he sounds pretty good.

6) Sign me up. Another wrinkle for the offense, brings in some speed.

7) This guy is on my radar too. I think he would make a pretty good swing tackle, but maybe LG is not out of the question.

7) Sounds good.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by rmartin65

Looks good BL. I like most of the players involved, but here are my thoughts:

1) I realize that NT is a huge need, but is Jenkins the guy? He is massive and incredibly strong, but like with all big guys I worry about his athleticism and if he will eat himself out of the league. And it goes without saying that if Jenkins is the pick then the D changes a bit, as Jenkins plays much different than Cody and Mitchell. I like the pick, as I think he has probably the highest upside of the big NTs, but it still worries me.

2) Love it. I think I mocked Winters in the 3rd a couple weeks ago, and I think the 2nd is probably a better place to grab him. He can be a day 1 starter at RT.

3) Meh. I am not wild about this guy, but we do need to upgrade the OLB position. Only 4.5 sacks and 7 TFLs just dont cut it for me.

3) I like this pick though, good call. ILB needs to be upgraded.

4) I like Vernon as well. I am moving away from the idea that we need a future number 1, as AJ is still going strong. Vernon can be an ideal number 2. Great routes and underrated speed/accel.

5) I dont see it BL, I just dont see it. Character issues, size reservations, and has not played in a year. Plus, CB is becoming a much bigger need than the 5th round.

5) I like grabbing a SS here. I dont know much about this guy, but from the internet he sounds pretty good.

6) Sign me up. Another wrinkle for the offense, brings in some speed.

7) This guy is on my radar too. I think he would make a pretty good swing tackle, but maybe LG is not out of the question.

7) Sounds good.

I've really, really struggled signing off on a nose to plug in Wade Phillips defense. His game against Alabama sold me.

OT must be addressed. Texans seem razor thin after Brown & Newton.

Mercilus is weakside OLB probably for good. His teammate from Illinois plays stronside, actually had 7.5 sacks with Whitney Junior season.

Linebacker lack of coverage skill set, post Cushing, exposed.

Vernon could turn into Welker clone.

TM has swagger, just long as it's on the field.

Another speedster returner is needed, special teams suck.

Another OT/OG with mobility to compete & have competent depth.

How can TE suddenly become so thin, especially help in blocking?

[2012Champs]

Originally Posted by beerlover

TM has swagger

Oh well in that case lets sign him

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by beerlover

SIXTH ROUND: Onterio McCalebb, RB/KR, Auburn, 5-9 176

Reminiscent of Holliday pick to help improve special teams. More similar to Dexter McCluster, can fill 3rd down duties, elusive, good hands (not as small as Trindon) has rushed for 2,586 yards, 63 receptions out of the backfield, 8.5 yards per carry & 25.6 yards per return in the SEC.

I'm not seeing this one. I would call him taller but smaller than Trindon. Only 6 lbs heavier on an extra 4" of height. The fact is what we need is better performance on ST from the back up LB's, DB's, coach, etc.

SEVENTH ROUND (Joel Dreessen compensatory): Ben Cotton, TE, 6-6 255

Dreessen was an undrafted free agent, so Texans could wait again until after the draft but why when they could lock up a blocking, big framed TE? Could develop as a pass catcher in time but would fill that role Texans are missing with departure of Joel. As seen last night the loss of Garrett Graham to injury was a bigger factor than most thought, Cotton would provide much needed depth & helping inline blocking pass rushing issue.

I don't think the Texans look for TE's who "could develop as a pass catcher." I think they look for OD, Dreesen, Graham, Casey as guys who can develop as pass protectors.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

I don't like it.

I do like the second round OT/OG, but I'd rather use the first round pick on a WR. The baddest WR in the draft. I don't care if we have to give away our 2014 1st & 2nd. We need real help for AJ.

See, I don' think our WR's are all that bad.

No they haven't done syt this year, BUT I don't see our offense utilizing another top flight receiver.

If we spread out more and let Schaub throw it around more often then I could see the need.

But we have seen Jean make plays...Posey has barely gotten a shot...Walter can catch the ball...Andre is still going strong...

We throw the ball to Jean one time yesterday? OD only three times?

I could easily see us grabbing another top flight WR and them not being fully utilized. I could easily see games where they see 1 or 2 balls come their way.

I think our best bet if we are going to move forward with Schaub as QB is to build the defense up. The offense can be good enough if the defense is truly dominate. I think we should aim towards building a dominat defense because the offense will eventually put points up if we can shut down people...

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by beerlover

predicated on successful interview process w/Texans (see Posey) have little doubt he can impact Texan secondary, special teams @ multiple positions

There's a big difference between a guy selling jerseys and/or trading for tattoos (Posey) and a guy who was kicked off the team for failing 3 drug tests and then arrested for being a drug dealer, 10 lbs. of weed, a short time later (Mathieu). Rick said last year that the Texans would forgive a college players transgression as long as it was a one time thing and the player learned from their mistake. Mathieu has F'd up 4 times that we know of, I doubt the Texans will even look at him.

As for the draft, I like 1,2, 3b, 7, and 7b. There's lots of other guys I'm not familiar with.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Greetings & salutations fellow Texan mocksters & fans here is my reaction to last nights game. Trying not to over react in the moment, but hey, it is what it is, this is how I cope The middle of Texan D was exposed all night by the Patriots as they jammed the ball down Texan throats, man handling our DT's Cody & Mitchell. I have to admit now may be the time to address this position with a premium pick & Jenkins who would more than plug this hole, much like Wilfork. Otherwise the linebackers need retooled/fortified, another set of hands that can hang onto a pass, improved man coverage from corner/safety position, right side offensive line help a must & Texans, with Garret dinged suffer far too much, need plus blocker to help give Schaub more time so they are razor thin @ TE position.

FIRST ROUND: John Jenkins, NT, Georgia, 6-3 350

Moves fluid despite size, country strong, can both push or plug piles. Separates defenders effectively walling off double teams inside on Watt or Smith. The Patriots ran straight ahead for solid gains all game long against the interior of Texans DL. To fill this big hole Texans need a big run stuffing Nose Tackle who is also disruptive like Vince Wilfork. If need be Texans should move up in order to address position, as you can see Texans have some extra picks to work with here & cashing in now would not be the worst thing in the world. Evaluating this class I've graded out Jenkins as the top pick for Texans/Wade Phillips 3-4.

SECOND ROUND: Brian Winters, OT/OG, Kent State, 6-5 310

Right side is a work in progress & needs to be addressed early, Had Flucker here from Alabama last go around, but don't feel he lasts this long come draft day. Winters is your more typical, athletic ZBS tackle who could also kick inside to RG, that only increases his value to depth starved Texans right side of the OL. Very balanced game can stone defensive ends on left side or pull in run blocking @ Collegiate level. Excellent base & fluid in the hole, can mirror or manhandle would be rushers. Texans must upgrade right side of OL.

THIRD ROUND: Michael Buchanan, OLB/DE, Illinois, 6-5 240

OK peeps, I'm sold moving on without Connor Barwin, he is doing nothing, 2 sacks in 13 games doesn't cut the cheese. Unless he signs on the cheap, Texans do need to add another pass rusher. Of course Brooks will come back next year but Texans need to add a pass rusher who can bend, turn the corner instead of locking up center of his man. The other reason I like Buchanan is he swatts a lot of balls @ line of scrimmage, Texans are also very familiar with program having drafted Whitney last year in 1st rd.

THIRD ROUND (Mario Williams compensatory): Kiko Alonzo, ILB, Oregon, 6-4 246

Great length, smart, instinctive & excellent in coverage. Texans need a bigger, longer cover guy in 3rd down situations who can stick & pull with these hybrid TE's & elusive RB's. Hard worker that will improve & flourish in Wade Phillips system. Gruden made the comment Patriots had drafted a bunch of SEC LB'S who are saying come on Texans lets see what you got & dominated the line of scrimmage. While these two LB's are not SEC or especially high picks like a Mayo, Hightower or Spikes they fill similar roles from the Big 10 (Mercilus/Buchanon) & Pac 12.

FOURTH ROUND: Conner Vernon, WR, Duke, 6-1 200

Schaub needs more receiving options, a smart, plus hands WR that runs tight timing routes & can secure the football in traffic is a must at some point this draft. Would like to spend earlier pick on a bigger, faster body but would require a much higher pick like Marshall Aaron Dobson but Texans also need somebody ready to plug in now & Conner seems like the type who can transition quickly, mature & ultra competitive.

FIFTH ROUND: Tyrann Mathieu, CB/S, LSU, 5-9 178

Despite personal problems, because of playmaking skills & ability to produce on the field Texans should not pass if available this late to address nickle position very least. Would also improve special teams as gunner, that has been woeful at best all season. This is breaking point for me, where value overcomes negative so would hope Texans take a chance on such a high ceiling player @ a position of need.

FIFTH ROUND (Jacoby Jones/Mike Brisel compensatory) Jordan Kovacs, SS, Michigan, 5-11 202

Insurance in case Quin does not resign. Excellent safety prospect this late who will compete & probably win roster spot otherwise from Shiloh Keo. Jordan is a walk on Senior who was very productive during his career with astounding 331 tackles in four years playing for Michigan, his best season was his sophomore year with 116 tackles. Solid in zone coverage & takes good angles in run support.

SIXTH ROUND: Onterio McCalebb, RB/KR, Auburn, 5-9 176

Reminiscent of Holliday pick to help improve special teams. More similar to Dexter McCluster, can fill 3rd down duties, elusive, good hands (not as small as Trindon) has rushed for 2,586 yards, 63 receptions out of the backfield, 8.5 yards per carry & 25.6 yards per return in the SEC.

SEVENTH ROUND: Tanner Hawkinson, OT/OG, Kansas, 6-4 300

Four year starter (LT) who has played under three head coaches, best fit for ZBS probably kicks inside to LG or possibly swing tackle to compete with Gardner. Good mobility & excels in pass protection. Texans need to retool their OL with multiple prospects both early & late to solidify scheme/game planning.

SEVENTH ROUND (Joel Dreessen compensatory): Ben Cotton, TE, 6-6 255

Dreessen was an undrafted free agent, so Texans could wait again until after the draft but why when they could lock up a blocking, big framed TE? Could develop as a pass catcher in time but would fill that role Texans are missing with departure of Joel. As seen last night the loss of Garrett Graham to injury was a bigger factor than most thought, Cotton would provide much needed depth & helping inline blocking pass rushing issue.

First allow me to welcome you to the dark side to my preaching on Barwin. Sad but true that this well liked guy has basically flamed out of the high flying rocket he was last season.

1. Jenkins is a very good pick but latest I've seen him is 20. ANything could happen.
2. I'd be ok with Winters but like my guy on newest update (11-2) Brennan Williams who might be available in third & rated 109.

3. Buchanan IIRC bulked up to 250 & has very good skills. I do not have him rated this high and would have expected him to parallel Mercilus (18) but minimal sacks for Buchanan. Would you consider Scott Chricton OSU here for OLB? 6'3" 263 9 sacks.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by beerlover

I've really, really struggled signing off on a nose to plug in Wade Phillips defense. His game against Alabama sold me.

OT must be addressed. Texans seem razor thin after Brown & Newton.

Mercilus is weakside OLB probably for good. His teammate from Illinois plays stronside, actually had 7.5 sacks with Whitney Junior season.

Linebacker lack of coverage skill set, post Cushing, exposed.

Vernon could turn into Welker clone.

TM has swagger, just long as it's on the field.

Another speedster returner is needed, special teams suck.

Another OT/OG with mobility to compete & have competent depth.

How can TE suddenly become so thin, especially help in blocking?

I cannot find anything on his sack total. Did not realize he had that many. Any info about the fight he broke his jaw in before this season?

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by badboy

First allow me to welcome you to the dark side to my preaching on Barwin. Sad but true that this well liked guy has basically flamed out of the high flying rocket he was last season.

1. Jenkins is a very good pick but latest I've seen him is 20. ANything could happen.
2. I'd be ok with Winters but like my guy on newest update (11-2) Brennan Williams who might be available in third & rated 109.

3. Buchanan IIRC bulked up to 250 & has very good skills. I do not have him rated this high and would have expected him to parallel Mercilus (18) but minimal sacks for Buchanan. Would you consider Scott Chricton OSU here for OLB? 6'3" 263 9 sacks.

Love Chricton but he is only a Sophomore. When he does come out could get a 1st rd. Grade?

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

There's a big difference between a guy selling jerseys and/or trading for tattoos (Posey) and a guy who was kicked off the team for failing 3 drug tests and then arrested for being a drug dealer, 10 lbs. of weed, a short time later (Mathieu). Rick said last year that the Texans would forgive a college players transgression as long as it was a one time thing and the player learned from their mistake. Mathieu has F'd up 4 times that we know of, I doubt the Texans will even look at him.

As for the draft, I like 1,2, 3b, 7, and 7b. There's lots of other guys I'm not familiar with.

Sounds like both were hard up for cash. Different environment/situation doesn't make either one right just hope Mathieu get appropriate help which I feel confident he would in this organiZation & would be wrote into his contract.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Rey

See, I don' think our WR's are all that bad.

No they haven't done syt this year, BUT I don't see our offense utilizing another top flight receiver.

If we spread out more and let Schaub throw it around more often then I could see the need.

But we have seen Jean make plays...Posey has barely gotten a shot...Walter can catch the ball...Andre is still going strong...

We throw the ball to Jean one time yesterday? OD only three times?

I could easily see us grabbing another top flight WR and them not being fully utilized. I could easily see games where they see 1 or 2 balls come their way.

I think our best bet if we are going to move forward with Schaub as QB is to build the defense up. The offense can be good enough if the defense is truly dominate. I think we should aim towards building a dominat defense because the offense will eventually put points up if we can shut down people...

Disagree

Teams like the Pats gang up on AJ and if OD cant get open then the Texans are screwed. IMHO Like I said in another thread Brady has Welker/Lloyd/Gronk/Hernandez/Edelman/Stallworth to throw too. Other than AJ and OD where do the other Texans WR/TE's Jean/Graham/Martin/Posey relate to New Englands receiver group.

Shaub has trouble in big games, but I would like to see what he could do with another big time WR/TE. Hunter/Allen/Woods/Patterson? Foster would probably benefit too. Jean/3rd down drop, Walter 4th down drop/ Martin struggles to get open. etc...

You've got to be able to score points against big time teams (Pats,Packers/Broncos etc...) and the Texans are short on weapons. IMHO

[2012Champs]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Sounds like both were hard up for cash. Different environment/situation doesn't make either one right just hope Marhieu get appropriate help which I feel confident he would in this organiZation & would be wrote into his contract.

Being hard up for cash doesn't make you fail drug test or have to go to rehab

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by 2012Champs

Being hard up for cash doesn't make you fail drug test or have to go to rehab

Evidently it did.

[2012Champs]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Evidently it did.

No it didn't. Please stop ignoring the obvious issue with this kid and the lack of actual comparison to posey