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Old 12-11-2012   #41
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Actually we lost that game I was there.
yup, matt schaub threw a pick 6 that wrapped that game up..
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Remember the games were Kareem Jackson was being picked on by the other team with ZERO mercy? Can anyone provide me an example where Kubiak has done this? The NFL is all about exploiting matchups and while we have some mega fancy x's and o's on offense we never seem to pick at a defense's scab...

Picking on a rookie corner isn't on the menu.
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Let's look at this thing from Kubiak's perspective. I know everybody thinks he's an idiot after games like this, but I can see some reasons why he went ultra conservative. The offensive line is banged up and the Patriots started getting to Schaub and that's when he probably started thinking big picture. The Texans still control their own destiny as far as gaining home field advantage, all of the remaining games are winnable, the Patriots still have to play the 49ers (who are suddenly in a dog fight vs. the Seahawks) and the offense just wasn't in synch all night. Why risk Schaub getting hurt when the team still has a plausible shot at a Super Bowl even after a blow out loss?
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Piss off, s h i t bird, I've been on this board much longer than you.
Does it take seniority to call someone out for making a ridiculous statement? If so, I'm going to go ahead and do that now.
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Let's look at this thing from Kubiak's perspective. I know everybody thinks he's an idiot after games like this, but I can see some reasons why he went ultra conservative. The offensive line is banged up and the Patriots started getting to Schaub and that's when he probably started thinking big picture. The Texans still control their own destiny as far as gaining home field advantage, all of the remaining games are winnable, the Patriots still have to play the 49ers (who are suddenly in a dog fight vs. the Seahawks) and the offense just wasn't in synch all night. Why risk Schaub getting hurt when the team still has a plausible shot at a Super Bowl even after a blow out loss?
I hate the fact that Kubiak quit early, but I agree with you. He doesn't want to risk Schaub, BUT what about the possibility of not showing NE coaching staff everything you have offensively, obviously because the game is out of reach and because you will meet them again in the post-season? Or am I just dreaming? With that being said, I could care less what the nation thinks of Houston. Texans are making a run to lock down home field while the rest of the NFL is thinking about the draft or battling for a spot in the wild card. I'm not pleased with tonight, but I like the Texans chances for rest of the season. They have to put this loss behind them though. We just need to keep running #44! That man is hungry!
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Down four touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter, coach Gary Kubiak surrendered. His offense didn’t hurry, huddling at its regular pace. Schaub handed the ball off to third-string running back Ben Tate until it was time to punt.

Players stopped short of calling it a white flag, but receiver Andre Johnson and left tackle Duane Brown didn’t love it. They shouldn’t have. It sends a team a bad message to give up at that point. At least go down slinging it.

“I have no control over that,” Johnson said.

“I just line up and do my job,” Brown said.

Schaub pointed to the short week ahead and a crucial game against Indianapolis as a reason for letting up.

Texans discontent with Kubiak playcalling? Schaub being Gary Jr and sounding just like his coach. You quit dumbass! You flat out quit!
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Texans discontent with Kubiak playcalling? Schaub being Gary Jr and sounding just like his coach. You quit dumbass! You flat out quit!
It doesn't sound like Schaub was happy with that, but he wasn't going to throw Gary under the bus.
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It doesn't sound like Schaub was happy with that, but he wasn't going to throw Gary under the bus.
Of course not. Respect your father, master, idol....whatever Kubiak Jrs relationship is to his daddy
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I don't believe Kubiak was worrying about Schaub's health or the short week or who another team has to play the next 3 weeks. I'd like to believe that, but I just don't. I think Kubiak had a game-plan, and he was going to stick with that game-plan if we were down by 300 points. We're going to get into the AFC Championship against Brady or Manning and he's going to pull this crap again. Just watch. No more reasons for worrying about Schaub's health or who somebody else has to play or short weeks.................and he'll still pull the same crap...

It's like he absolutely refuses to make in-game decisions. I've already decided how this game will go and I'm going to call it that way.
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The good news is the Pats don't lose to the same team twice in a season.
They don't lose at home in Dec.

I would rather lose a game now.

Win what we need for home field advantage in the playoffs and make them come here in Jan. They hate our field.

I would hate to be Indy next Sunday....remember the Baltimore game??
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Does it take seniority to call someone out for making a ridiculous statement? If so, I'm going to go ahead and do that now.
I noted seniority to highlight the absurdity of being called a bandwagoner by someone who has been on this board for barely a year. You know, right when the Texans started to matter.

I would assume you can comprehend the validity of my statement.
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I would hate to be Indy next Sunday....
Out of curiosity, why? They have the two things we consistently struggle with, a good spread offense, and a mobile QB. I can easily see this game going their way.
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Out of curiosity, why? They have the two things we consistently struggle with, a good spread offense, and a mobile QB. I can easily see this game going their way.
We have a good spread offense that no defense will ever get to struggle with
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What good could come out of "throwing" the game ???
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What good could come out of "throwing" the game ???
If the Texans won the game they'd have pretty much secured HFA.

The loss would have dropped the Patriots to the 4th seed with a 9-4 record.

Broncos 10-3
Ravens 9-4 (beat the Pats)
Pats 9-4.

Week 15 - The Broncos go to Baltimore and the Pats host SF.
Week 16 - Pats at Jags, Ravens host the Giants, Browns at Denver.
Week 17 - Mia at Pats, Ravens at Cincy, KC at Denver.

If the Broncos win in Baltimore they'll probably win out and keep the #2 seed. IF the Broncos looked to be in that situation I think NE would rest guys and take the 4th seed. If I'm them I'd rather play in Houston in the Divisional round against an inexperienced team with a QB that hasn't played in the playoffs rather than have the 3rd seed and go play in Denver against Manning. This would mean Houston would play NE and Den (provided they win at home against Baltimore or a Wild Card team that beat Baltimore).

With a Pats win, though. The Texans keep the top seed, but everyone else moves around.

Pats 10-3 (beat Den)
Den 10-3
Bal 9-4

In this scenario even when Denver wins out the Patriots keep the #2 seed if they win out and they could.


I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, but....a loss did help us set up a more favorable playoff run. Provided we win out.
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