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Old 11-25-2012   #141
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Schaub has never been in a critical, must-execute, playoff series and had the fate of the game squarely put on his shoulders. Until he does, and he successfully executes, then I will not view him as a clutch QB.

He's won some regular season games, but none that was a singular must-win to put us in the playoffs. I don't believe that I've ever seen him under real pressure.
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Schaub has never been in a critical, must-execute, playoff series and had the fate of the game squarely put on his shoulders. Until he does, and he successfully executes, then I will not view him as a clutch QB.

He's won some regular season games, but none that was a singular must-win to put us in the playoffs. I don't believe that I've ever seen him under real pressure.
Well the 2009 Pats game was critical and he performed well.
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Schaub proved several years ago that he "could be clutch." Schaub can't always be expected to be clutch though. Either way I'm happy to have him though and he continually shows that he is a very good QB in this league.
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My gripe about all this is that every team knows when Schaun audibles it's to a RUN play.
You have no clue what they have audibled from and to so your assertion is ridiculous.

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Have we ever seen him change a pass play to another pass play, such as realigning the entire formation? I don't recall it, but maybe we have.
Our O is designed to run multiple run and pass plays out of the same formation so you don't need to see the "entire formation" change (as if that happens much with any team). You also have no idea if the motion you see from the backs and receivers is a result of an audible on any given play.
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Default Re: Is Matt Schaub clutch?

Before this season I would have said Hell no bring in Yates. But what I have seen out of him this season is a man who is willing the W's and putting the team on his back. Throwing for 527 yards to win in OT -vs- JVille and then turn around on a short week to do it again on 4 days rest against Detroit.
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Our O is designed to run multiple run and pass plays out of the same formation so you don't need to see the "entire formation" change (as if that happens much with any team). You also have no idea if the motion you see from the backs and receivers is a result of an audible on any given play.
I think people hear that we don't audible & they think Schaub has no control of the offense which couldn't be further from the truth. I think he has even more control than a traditional audible system would give him. But you can't "see" it like you could when Peyton is dancing & gyrating at the LOS.
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You have no clue what they have audibled from and to so your assertion is ridiculous.
Wait... What???? People have no idea what they audible to, or what the original call was????

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!

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Schaub has never been in a critical, must-execute, playoff series and had the fate of the game squarely put on his shoulders. Until he does, and he successfully executes, then I will not view him as a clutch QB.

He's won some regular season games, but none that was a singular must-win to put us in the playoffs. I don't believe that I've ever seen him under real pressure.







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Default Re: Is Matt Schaub clutch?

I don't think he's clutch but i believe he is better than what he showed tonight.

I want to say poor Andre. People are talking about a 7th rounder shutting him down & that did not happen.
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Default Re: Is Matt Schaub clutch?

Please forgive me since I didn't read a couple of pages, but Kubiak is Schaub's biggest enemy in terms of getting the best out of Schaub.
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Please forgive me since I didn't read a couple of pages, but Kubiak is Schaub's biggest enemy in terms of getting the best out of Schaub.
I think it's the opposite. I think kubiaks offense would be better with a better qb.

I think schaub owes all of his success to kubiak.

Give kubiak a better qb and I think this offense becomes more potent.

That pick in the redone affirms my belief. Awful, perplexing play by Matt. Especially when you have Arian wide open without a defender within 10-15 yards of him.
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Default Re: Is Matt Schaub clutch?

Schaub has never been and never will be clutch.
Sorry, calling a spade a spade.
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I think it's the opposite. I think kubiaks offense would be better with a better qb.

I think schaub owes all of his success to kubiak.

Give kubiak a better qb and I think this offense becomes more potent.

That pick in the redone affirms my belief. Awful, perplexing play by Matt. Especially when you have Arian wide open without a defender within 10-15 yards of him.
I think it's Kubes, but fair enough, Rey. Point well taken.
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I think it's the opposite. I think kubiaks offense would be better with a better qb.

I think schaub owes all of his success to kubiak.

Give kubiak a better qb and I think this offense becomes more potent.
thats how i feel about it.. maybe they could take a chance on a qb that needs a change of scenery.. i almost feel like its gonna take schaub laying an egg in the playoffs before people will admit that hes not a winner.
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thats how i feel about it.. maybe they could take a chance on a qb that needs a change of scenery.. i almost feel like its gonna take schaub laying an egg in the playoffs before people will admit that hes not a winner.
In reference to both Rey and your post, I can see this side as well. I wonder what moves the Texans will make in the near future. A future top-notch qb needs to be had if we are really wanting to be the perennial players so many say we will be.
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I dont now he never been in a playoff game ill just have to wait and see
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On 610 they said 7 of Schaub's 10 ints have been in prime time games.
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That pick in the redone affirms my belief. Awful, perplexing play by Matt. Especially when you have Arian wide open without a defender within 10-15 yards of him.
I'm no fan of Matt Schaub, but I think this was an issue of Matt trying to be a better QB. Instead of being safe & cautious he took a chance that he shouldn't have. I don't know that a better QB could have made that throw. I think a better QB would have checked it down to the wide open Foster. Maybe getting the ball out earlier it would have got there in time.... I don't know.

He was definitely not himself on that throw & it cost us.

There were several more throws that confirms what I've thought about Schaub. I think his "accuracy" numbers are helped by Kubiak's ability to get receivers wide open. When it's close, he puts the ball in the absolute worst place it could be.

& it's not like he hasn't been throwing to these guys for 5 years. I'm talking OD, Andre, & KDub. He's putting the ball where the defender has the best chance of defending the pass. Behind the receiver when the defender is trailing. In front of the receiver when the defense is leading.

Then he was late on just about every throw.

To be fair though, you hit the receiver in the hands, he needs to catch it & that didn't happen too often last night. KDub, Arian, Andre didn't help Matt too much last night.
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thats how i feel about it.. maybe they could take a chance on a qb that needs a change of scenery.. i almost feel like its gonna take schaub laying an egg in the playoffs before people will admit that hes not a winner.
I still think we can win with Schaub, but I understand the Kaepernic move more & more. Harbaugh "knows" thinking of winning a Super Bowl with Alex Smith is a fools errand.
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Schaub has never been and never will be clutch.
Sorry, calling a spade a spade.
I think he can come up big in clutch situations. He's put the team on his back before and won games with his arm.

But...

He can't do it consistently so I wouldn't consider him a clutch player. You're happy when he does it, but you don't exactly expect it.

QBs like Brady and Manning know the D before the snap and throw to the correct receiver 90% of the time. Schaub acts like he knows who he wants to throw to coming out of the huddle and will miss the open guys 30% of the time to try and get it to the primary target.

Overall, Schaub is a better than average QB. There's only a handful in the league right now that I'd take over him.
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