Manziel

[Señor Stan]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

Definitely, but it's an annual award and they aren't going to skip a year due to lesser talent.



Well, no truly defense-only player has ever won it, and Teo could be the first to do that. He also could be the first Mormon to win it.

No Heisman winner has ever passed for 3000 yards and rushed for 1000 in their award winning season. No freshman has ever won it.

Tebow was the first Sophomore to win it, Newton was the first Juco transfer to win it, etc etc. I'm sure we could find specific firsts with any Heisman winner, so I don't think the voters will be too hung up on that. Either way, one of these two players will be the first at something.

That would be Ty Detmer...

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Señor Stan

That would be Ty Detmer...

I thought he converted after he won it.

[Señor Stan]

Originally Posted by Dutchrudder

I thought he converted after he won it.

You are correct sir! I didn't know he had converted while there...assumed he was Mormon going in.

So Ty Detmer is the 1st Heisman winner to convert to Mormonism. Sweet!

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Señor Stan

You are correct sir! I didn't know he had converted while there...assumed he was Mormon going in.

So Ty Detmer is the 1st Heisman winner to convert to Mormonism. Sweet!

Cool, just repeating what I heard on TV the other day. They were talking about firsts and how it's unavoidable this year. Although, it seems with things like this or voting for President, there is always a new barrier that's broken.

[steelbtexan]

I've got family that married into the Detmers extended family, unless he has converted lately Ty isn't a mormon. Is Manziel a mormon?

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I've got family that married into the Detmers extended family, unless he has converted lately Ty isn't a mormon. Is Manziel a mormon?

No, Manti Teo is a mormon.

Ty Detmer's wiki page says he converted to mormonism while in school, but doesn't give a date. I guess you would have to ask him or use some Google-fu to figure it out.

[Stemp]

Manziel won the Davey O'Brien award for the best QB in the nation.

Later tonight, we'll find out about the Maxwell award.

[htownfan32]

Originally Posted by Stemp

Manziel won the Davey O'Brien award for the best QB in the nation.

Later tonight, we'll find out about the Maxwell award.

If not for finals, partying excuse found.

[GlassHalfFull]

[Honoring Earl 34]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I'm not sure how long he'll be in the spotlight but I am sure he's going to make the most of it .

[TwoFive]

He's the same size Vick was at the same age... dont see whats the big deal on his size

[Stemp]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=9076787

[TexansSeminole]

GHF, your image isn't showing up for me.