what QB are you projecting in the top ten next year?

[ArlingtonTexan]

Geno Smith QB West Virginia

[76Texan]

I've been watching an awful lot of Tyler Wilson.
I like him a lot.

In 2010, he had ZERO footwork.
I don't know if he's a little stiff or not; he's cerntainly athletic though.

He improved A LOT last year.

IMO, he and Barkley are 1. 2 in the next draft.

He played well under duress.
He has excellent arm strength; he can throw a transcontinental pass as you couldn't believe it.

If only his footwork can get better, he will be very scary.

Even though he had improved on it, at the moment it still holds him back from being a fantastic pro QB.

If he can improve his footwork to somewhere close to Barkley, IMO, he will supplant Barkley as the #1 QB in the next draft.

Of course, Barkley can improve in other area(s), too.

My money was on Barkley, but this guy may take the cake at the end of the day.

[badboy]

I think Geno Smith will throw up Keenum type stats but how high will he be drafted? I see him 2-3rd round now.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by badboy

I think Geno Smith will throw up Keenum type stats but how high will he be drafted? I see him 2-3rd round now.

Geno is another interesting prospect.
His overall game (mental and physical) indicates a very solid NFL prospect.
In Holgorson's spread/air raid system, Geno looks like a very good "system" QB.
He's extremely efficient.
To me, he looks like a better prospect than Osweiler or even Weeden.

Weeden has a whole more experience due to his "advanced" age while Geno Smith isn't a field general yet (but really, neither is Weeden).

Right now, for the most part, Geno is more like a well-oiled machine.
He can manipulate the safety(ies) occasionally but has yet to do it on a consistent basis.

Thing is, I look at him as being able to be an A student, but can he become an A+ student? That's the million-dollar question.

On a normal curve of progression, I think Geno Smith is a first rounder.
I like him better than Tannerhill as an NFL prospect, actually.

[beerlover]

Logan Thomas, VT reminds me of Cam Newton & with Cam's success his stock will surely elevate Thomas into top 10, consideration.


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[aussie_texan]

Originally Posted by welsh texan

They clearly forgot about Tebow.

So given Schaubie is all contracted up and playing well, I'm of a mind to wonder what sort of trade value TJ might have, not that I don't love the guy, just when you consider what backup QB's get traded for and the contracts they sign, better to trade him than let the market dictate too high a value for him as an FA.

borrowed this from another thread.
Just wondering would you guys consider trading TJ for a 3rd round pick, and maybe taking a QB like Bray or Wilson in the first to groom, or any other QB you rate highly?

Considering the amount of possible picks we could have this draft throw in another 3rd we could end up with three 2nd round picks with trade ups, and it may seem that now is the best time to get a top QB to learn the ropes behind schaubs last few years, i.e. like rogers.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

borrowed this from another thread.
Just wondering would you guys consider trading TJ for a 3rd round pick, and maybe taking a QB like Bray or Wilson in the first to groom, or any other QB you rate highly?

Considering the amount of possible picks we could have this draft throw in another 3rd we could end up with three 2nd round picks with trade ups, and it may seem that now is the best time to get a top QB to learn the ropes behind schaubs last few years, i.e. like rogers.

If Patterson and Bray are there at the end of the 1st rd I would use my 1st pick on Patterson and then use my 2nd/3rd/5th pick to trade up and pick Bray.

I know these guys dont fill needs but they're special talents and talent trumps needs. IMHO (Patterson does fill a need, he's the #1 guy on my Texans board a track guy who's a football player 1st.)

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

borrowed this from another thread.
Just wondering would you guys consider trading TJ for a 3rd round pick, and maybe taking a QB like Bray or Wilson in the first to groom, or any other QB you rate highly?

Considering the amount of possible picks we could have this draft throw in another 3rd we could end up with three 2nd round picks with trade ups, and it may seem that now is the best time to get a top QB to learn the ropes behind schaubs last few years, i.e. like rogers.

Would I consider trading TJ, hell yes, but I want more than a 3rd round pick for him. With so many teams desperate for QB talent, TJ is young, experienced, has size and arm strength, tutored by a so called QB guru, has won a playoff game, and has shown that he's willing to put in the work to get better. I'd want at least a mid 2nd and throw in a mid 3rd along with it. I don't remember what KC gave up for Cassel, or what Arizona gave up for Kolb but they were expensive. Its' yet to be seen but with so many expected comp. picks, trade picks from Tate, and/or trade picks from TJ we should have lots of picks available to us come draft time and I'd expect Rick to glue that phone to his ear and I'd have no problem if one of the really good QB prospects fell near us and we traded up to get him so that he could sit behind Schaub for a year or 2 and then take over. I expect Rick Smith will be an extremely busy man once this season is over and I expect him to be trading up getting us quality over quantity in the early rounds. He's going to be earning that pay check this offseason.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

Considering the amount of possible picks we could have this draft throw in another 3rd we could end up with three 2nd round picks with trade ups, and it may seem that now is the best time to get a top QB to learn the ropes behind schaubs last few years, i.e. like rogers.

Absolutely not. Tj is a bird in the hand, why gamble?

We've locked Schaub up for a little while. He's got at least 4 good years in him baring serious injury. What we're looking for in a back-up QB is someone who can run the offense & not lose games for us. Tj does that well & (as seen in Atlanta & vs Cincy) gives us a chance to win.

We're not looking for heir-apparent.

Besides, the NFL has a short memory. Had we tried to trade him last off-season he'd have competed with Matt Flynn & with the way that turned out, I don't know if "flashy back-up" is as hot a commodity any more.

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Besides, the NFL has a short memory. Had we tried to trade him last off-season he'd have competed with Matt Flynn & with the way that turned out, I don't know if "flashy back-up" is as hot a commodity any more.

There's always someone in the NFL looking for a quick-fix with a flashy back-up. Like you said, the NFL has a short memory.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

borrowed this from another thread.
Just wondering would you guys consider trading TJ for a 3rd round pick, and maybe taking a QB like Bray or Wilson in the first to groom, or any other QB you rate highly?

Considering the amount of possible picks we could have this draft throw in another 3rd we could end up with three 2nd round picks with trade ups, and it may seem that now is the best time to get a top QB to learn the ropes behind schaubs last few years, i.e. like rogers.

Absolutley not as we know what we have with Yates. Now, if we are sitting at a pick next draft and a QB has fallen to us (for example my trades in to the second round thread) maybe. I just see QB as a strength we should not mess with. If Gary thinks Keenum could replace Yates 2013 that'd be different but we will never know.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

borrowed this from another thread.
Just wondering would you guys consider trading TJ for a 3rd round pick, and maybe taking a QB like Bray or Wilson in the first to groom, or any other QB you rate highly?

Considering the amount of possible picks we could have this draft throw in another 3rd we could end up with three 2nd round picks with trade ups, and it may seem that now is the best time to get a top QB to learn the ropes behind schaubs last few years, i.e. like rogers.

Nope. Yates is a good backup on a 5th round deal for the next 2.5 years. He's exactly what we need at the position, some one cheap and capable. If anyone is getting traded, it should be Ben Tate. I'd be surprised to get more than a 4th for him at this point, but packaging him with a 3rd could net us a 2nd.

I would very much like us to use our late picks in packages to trade up into the 2nd and 3rd rounds if possible. I don't think this team needs 11 new rookies, and I would rather get 4-6 quality players and 1-2 JAGs, than 1-3 quality and 5-9 JAGs.

[Texan4Ever]

Some of these quarterbacks have struggled this season but looking at their careers holistically, here's how I would rank them:

1.) Matt Barkley

2.) Tyler Wilson

3.) Geno Smith

4.) Landry Jones

5.) *Tyler Bray

Dark horse: Collin Klein

[steelbtexan]

Barkley and Smith

Wilson has an outside shot and there's an outside shot of a team falling in love with Bray's arm. If I had a top 10 pick I would look at trading down. There's not that much difference between Smith/ Barkley and Bray/Jones. IMHO

[htownfan32]

Not sure anyone wants to take a chance on Collin Klein in early rounds. He seems like a Tebow clone to me, and with those funky mechanics... I'm not touching him with a ten foot pole. Recent history has taught us, thou shall not draft USC quarterbacks, and... Barkley seems headed the way of Sanchez and Leinart to me. I like Wilson (I think Arkansas' issues arise from coaching, not Wilson's play). Geno is going first round, but I have a feeling he's going to take time to develop into a good QB.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Logan Thomas, VT reminds me of Cam Newton & with Cam's success his stock will surely elevate Thomas into top 10, consideration.

Newton has put up some numbers .... but the real measure of a QB is W's. I cant really call Newton much of a success based upon that .... But you are probably right , there will be a team who see's the comparison and takes a shot early.