Quality of Wins - Not Important

[SAMURAITEXAN]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Preach it again Samurai-San!

Did I use the term correctly? LOL

Well grass hopper76, Sun rises from east and sets on west. In realty, Earth is spinning instead of Sun or my head is spinning. Do you understand grass hopper76? Because, I don't understand what I am saying.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

pssshhhhhhhh........ Houston can't even get a space shuttle.

I read a fiction or two; in cases similar to this, we normally have something built by the Japanese or stashed somewhere in Japan (one of them is Contact by Carl Sagan, the famous astronomer.)

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by SAMURAITEXAN

Well grass hopper76, Sun rises from east and sets on west. In realty, Earth is spinning instead of Sun or my head is spinning. Do you understand grass hopper76? Because, I don't understand what I am saying.

Sensei,

[Exascor]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

pssshhhhhhhh........ Houston can't even get a space shuttle.

But...we got one of the planes that carried them!!!

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Exascor

But...we got one of the planes that carried them!!!

Sounds like an AFC Championship game appearance to me.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by SAMURAITEXAN

Bottom line. Would you take ugly win in SB? Or, would you rather see the Texans in hard fought game but loose? I'd seen enough of hard fought loses. I want the Texans to Win and Win it all if possible whether it is ugly or not. Doesn't matter if the game is a perfect one or not! Of course, I want the Texans to Win in strong commanding lead fashion. But, I won't complain if we win in ugly fashion. We waited long enough! Houston deserve to have a Lombardi Trophy. And, that's all I can say to this subject.

Go Texans!!!

Good question & one I have considered. If we had a season with some sloppy games, I would not be happy with a sloppy SB win. I do know that the feeling I had after that type of win would not be a good one. I have experienced a yucky feeling after a yucky win. I did not watch any of the games when Astros went to World Series. I had no connection with the players who did not inspire me to follow them.

I am not talking about games we win when the other team has injuries or bad play. It is about my team and how they play. One or two sloppy games in a season does not make me stop watching but if I don't see attempts to correct, I rapidly lose interest. For me it is more about doing your best against the best. Slop is for pigs.

[GlassHalfFull]

Originally Posted by badboy

Good question & one I have considered. If we had a season with some sloppy games, I would not be happy with a sloppy SB win. I do know that the feeling I had after that type of win would not be a good one. I have experienced a yucky feeling after a yucky win. I did not watch any of the games when Astros went to World Series. I had no connection with the players who did not inspire me to follow them.

I am not talking about games we win when the other team has injuries or bad play. It is about my team and how they play. One or two sloppy games in a season does not make me stop watching but if I don't see attempts to correct, I rapidly lose interest. For me it is more about doing your best against the best. Slop is for pigs.

I have a huge amount of respect for the players that go out there week after week to entertain us. Not a single one of them isn't banged up and hurting after a couple of games. Yes, they get the big payday, but they are putting heart and soul on the field each week.

How can you watch the way JJ has answered the battle call the last few weeks and not be impressed? Or how Schaub and AJ have dug in and kept battling?

I just do not get the negative attitude. Go tell JJ or AJ that slop is for pigs. This is the NFL and each and every Sunday any team can surprise you.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I have a huge amount of respect for the players that go out there week after week to entertain us. Not a single one of them isn't banged up and hurting after a couple of games. Yes, they get the big payday, but they are putting heart and soul on the field each week.

How can you watch the way JJ has answered the battle call the last few weeks and not be impressed? Or how Schaub and AJ have dug in and kept battling?

I just do not get the negative attitude. Go tell JJ or AJ that slop is for pigs. This is the NFL and each and every Sunday any team can surprise you.

Agreed. I like to see them overcome adversity. It would have been nice if that adversity came against the Ravens or the Bears, but it didn't. We steam rolled them & struggled against the Jags & Detroit.

Jags, I think they got caught sleeping. Detroit, we were hurt'n & that was a physical game. It happens.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I have a huge amount of respect for the players that go out there week after week to entertain us. Not a single one of them isn't banged up and hurting after a couple of games. Yes, they get the big payday, but they are putting heart and soul on the field each week.

How can you watch the way JJ has answered the battle call the last few weeks and not be impressed? Or how Schaub and AJ have dug in and kept battling?

I just do not get the negative attitude. Go tell JJ or AJ that slop is for pigs. This is the NFL and each and every Sunday any team can surprise you.

I don't recall saying either JJ or AJ or Schaub have played sloppily. You need to look again at the thread title that the "quality of wins-not important". I disagree with that and I think most Texans players would also. I agree with all you say in this post except where you think I have a negative attitude. I do not want to seem like I am attacking you. I would not do that, but you do have the rep for not being able to critique the Texans. I enjoy your enthusiasm but you are like the mom who never tells her kids they are doing something wrong. I think you can love someone and still be honest with them. Coaches do that on a regular basis. You can bet behind the scenes, Wade and Gary point out slop when they see it. IMO so do the players you identify; they are supreme competitors. Jags game was a sloppy one by the team.

Again I am not talking about the "any given Sunday.." game where a team just gets upset by a perceived lesser team. Players know when they are sloppy. We should also. I am more critical of myself than others are of me. I think most competitors are.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Agreed. I like to see them overcome adversity. It would have been nice if that adversity came against the Ravens or the Bears, but it didn't. We steam rolled them & struggled against the Jags & Detroit.

Jags, I think they got caught sleeping. Detroit, we were hurt'n & that was a physical game. It happens.

Agree.

[GlassHalfFull]

Originally Posted by badboy

I don't recall saying either JJ or AJ or Schaub have played sloppily. You need to look again at the thread title that the "quality of wins-not important". I disagree with that and I think most Texans players would also. I agree with all you say in this post except where you think I have a negative attitude. I do not want to seem like I am attacking you. I would not do that, but you do have the rep for not being able to critique the Texans. I enjoy your enthusiasm but you are like the mom who never tells her kids they are doing something wrong. I think you can love someone and still be honest with them. Coaches do that on a regular basis. You can bet behind the scenes, Wade and Gary point out slop when they see it. IMO so do the players you identify; they are supreme competitors. Jags game was a sloppy one by the team.

Again I am not talking about the "any given Sunday.." game where a team just gets upset by a perceived lesser team. Players know when they are sloppy. We should also. I am more critical of myself than others are of me. I think most competitors are.

I post pretty selectively about the team. I read pretty much everything in the Texans part of the forum, but I only post when I feel something needs defending, so that may be why I come off as not being able to critique the Texans. I really am not a prototypical internet person, I guess. I must still be of the if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all generation. As far as the Mom bit, just ask my boys. I had to stand up to some very strong willed boys, and their current success in life tells me I did a pretty good job. They got told plenty when I felt they were doing something wrong.

I just think it is ridiculous to have the attitude that one would not be happy with a sloppy Super Bowl win. I stood on the sidelines as a sports photographer for 8 years of High School games. As a female of my generation, I obviously never played the game. But being on the sidelines and witnessing up close and personal the physicality of the game and the emotions of the players, I would never discount a win.

I may view my role as a fan differently than yours, but it is dismissive to tell me that I am a mom who can tell my children no wrong. I guess I need to go back to the cooking forum. There is a huge battle going on over range feed vs grocery store eggs.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by badboy

I disagree with that and I think most Texans players would also.

ooooo.... I don't think the players would agree with you. They know what it's all about. Unless we're talking contract year, a win is a win.

A sloppy game just refocuses them I think. Helps them to remember just how hard it is to win at this level, much less 10 wins in 11 games.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I may view my role as a fan differently than yours, but it is dismissive to tell me that I am a mom who can tell my children no wrong. I guess I need to go back to the cooking forum. There is a huge battle going on over range feed vs grocery store eggs.

Begone woman ..... & get me another beer .

[Exascor]

Originally Posted by badboy

You need to look again at the thread title that the "quality of wins-not important". I disagree with that and I think most Texans players would also.

Every fan wants their team to win every game and win by 50 points. The point is - IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. That is the point of this thread. Ask any Patriots fan if they would trade 5-6 of their wins in 2007 for a 1 point win in the Superbowl. I'd bet every single fan would do it. Every one.

Sometimes fans (myself included) get too into stats. If the Texans win all the remaining regular season games by 5 points combined - we should all be thrilled. The time for quality of wins ended when Houston beat the Bengals during the regular season last year. Unless there is a sign of a serious problem (like the defense in 2010 after 6 games) it doesn't matter what the score is for a win. Winning big doesn't give you a bigger W. It's only nice when you are playing for next season.

Every team starts the playoffs with the same record. Only the team that wins every game in the playoffs gets to take home the trophy. Doesn't matter how they win. The only goal that the Texans staff and players should be looking at is Superbowl victories. Everything else is just a consolation prize for participating in another team's championship season.

Reread the original post. No team blows through the regular season. Most lay a few turds along the way. Fortunately, the Texans's have had only 1 bad game this season and 2 where they didn't play to their potential for the entire game. The fact that the Texans had some hiccups on defense the past 2 games and the offense exploded shows just how good they are.

The point is to enjoy this season - even the "sloppy" wins.

[DocBar]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I may view my role as a fan differently than yours, but it is dismissive to tell me that I am a mom who can tell my children no wrong. I guess I need to go back to the cooking forum. There is a huge battle going on over range feed vs grocery store eggs.

Range feed, hands down, end of argument.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Exascor

Every fan wants their team to win every game and win by 50 points. The point is - IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. That is the point of this thread. Ask any Patriots fan if they would trade 5-6 of their wins in 2007 for a 1 point win in the Superbowl. I'd bet every single fan would do it. Every one.

Sometimes fans (myself included) get too into stats. If the Texans win all the remaining regular season games by 5 points combined - we should all be thrilled. The time for quality of wins ended when Houston beat the Bengals during the regular season last year. Unless there is a sign of a serious problem (like the defense in 2010 after 6 games) it doesn't matter what the score is for a win. Winning big doesn't give you a bigger W. It's only nice when you are playing for next season.

Every team starts the playoffs with the same record. Only the team that wins every game in the playoffs gets to take home the trophy. Doesn't matter how they win. The only goal that the Texans staff and players should be looking at is Superbowl victories. Everything else is just a consolation prize for participating in another team's championship season.

Reread the original post. No team blows through the regular season. Most lay a few turds along the way. Fortunately, the Texans's have had only 1 bad game this season and 2 where they didn't play to their potential for the entire game. The fact that the Texans had some hiccups on defense the past 2 games and the offense exploded shows just how good they are.

The point is to enjoy this season - even the "sloppy" wins.

I like your post.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

Begone woman ..... & get me another beer .

So says the man who couldn't convince the Boss to move Thanksgiving meal time to 3:30.

Boss is always right, the move would only serve to delay the feast even further while everybody agonize about both the game and their stomach, LOL

[GlassHalfFull]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

So says the man who couldn't convince the Boss to move Thanksgiving meal time to 3:30.

Boss is always right, the move would only serve to delay the feast even further while everybody agonize about both the game and their stomach, LOL

I was in charge of making the gravy this year at my sister in laws house. We were supposed to eat around 4. The gravy did not get started until the game was over. One way to control the timing.

That was some vigorously stirred gravy......

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

So says the man who couldn't convince the Boss to move Thanksgiving meal time to 3:30.

ahem.....

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by GlassHalfFull

I was in charge of making the gravy this year at my sister in laws house. We were supposed to eat around 4. The gravy did not get started until the game was over. One way to control the timing.

That was some vigorously stirred gravy......

It actually turned out great. We hit pause. Ate, drank, & whatnot for 45 minutes or so. When we got back to the game (the wimmens too) everybody was pleased that we could fast forward through all the commercials.

They got upset when we caught up with real time.