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Old 11-19-2012   #41
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Wade is a great DC. But he didn't play up to 50-50 with Kubiak. When this team plays 50-50, we have our best games. When one half plays better than the other, we have off days. Our mark of greatness is that we win regardless. Yes, the defense was off today. I feel that Kubiak is taking the heat even after bailing out Wade. Yes, I realize that Wade has bailed Kubiak out more times, but remember 2010. Kubiak is not an idiot. The man is an offensive guru who has been let down by crappy defenses many times. He showed how clutch he can be, and how clutch Matt Schaub can be when this ballclub needs it. The 2010 offense has woken up. They, with Wade's D, make this team unstoppable

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He threw the ball 14 times to Andre Johnson & every one was dang near uncontested.

How does a man get wtf open 14 times when they know we're going to throw the ball & he's our best receiver?
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He threw the ball 14 times to Andre Johnson & every one was dang near uncontested.

How does a man get wtf open 14 times when they know we're going to throw the ball & he's our best receiver?
Andre was actually targeted 19 times.

Quick answer to your question: Johnson is better than the guys trying to cover him.
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If it's on Kubiak's shoulders when the team and HIS players fail, then he should also get credit when the team and his players succeed. It should not be, "Schaub won despite Kubiak, but Kubiak is the head coach, so he is to blame for the losses". Just like Kubiak was responsible for the defensive woes with Frank Bush and company, but has zero to do with our defense this year or last.

I'm not saying all is forgiven, please understand that. I'm saying that win or lose, Kubiak deserves both credit and blame, but not all of it in either case.
In his first two or three seasons here as HC, I was able to give him a pass on days when things fell apart.

Seeing as how he's well into his tenure as a HC now, no. When the team looks flat, slow, uninterested in focusing and doing consistently good work...that's 100% "on Kubiak."

Granted, the team never freaked out today. So he obviously has them coached up overall, it's just the small details that get me pissed off at him.
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In his first two or three seasons here as HC, I was able to give him a pass on days when things fell apart.

Seeing as how he's well into his tenure as a HC now, no. When the team looks flat, slow, uninterested in focusing and doing consistently good work...that's 100% "on Kubiak."

Granted, the team never freaked out today. So he obviously has them coached up overall, it's just the small details that get me pissed off at him.
This is stupid. We used to do the same thing to the Colts when they were king of the AFC South. Whether we finished 2-14 or 9-7, the Colts (& their fans) knew they had better bring their A-game. Nodoby thought the Colts were flat when we beat them or gave them a game when we weren't very good.
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This is stupid. We used to do the same thing to the Colts when they were king of the AFC South. Whether we finished 2-14 or 9-7, the Colts (& their fans) knew they had better bring their A-game. Nodoby thought the Colts were flat when we beat them or gave them a game when we weren't very good.
This is true and the exact same thing I said about our win after the game today. Nobody ever apologized to us when it took miracles for Manning to come from behind to beat us. Instead they looked at those wins as The Colts being that good. We need to do the same thing!!! We have a good team.
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This is stupid. We used to do the same thing to the Colts when they were king of the AFC South. Whether we finished 2-14 or 9-7, the Colts (& their fans) knew they had better bring their A-game. Nodoby thought the Colts were flat when we beat them or gave them a game when we weren't very good.
If I happened to be a Patriots fan, and Coach Bill didn't have his team prepared, focused, and playing their guts out in a game...I'd say the same thing about Bill.

Sometimes you guys live in a vacuum on this stuff. This isn't me "hating on Kubiak," this is me just saying that a coach of his tenure, with his talent, should have his offense geared up and playing supremely focused football every week. Those guys have a window, and they better get through the window before it closes. Slow and steady wins the race is good up until the last few yards of the race...then you better pour it on and finish the job.
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I still have the football card of Warren Moon acheiving that. I saw that game too!!!
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If I happened to be a Patriots fan, and Coach Bill didn't have his team prepared, focused, and playing their guts out in a game...I'd say the same thing about Bill.

Sometimes you guys live in a vacuum on this stuff. This isn't me "hating on Kubiak," this is me just saying that a coach of his tenure, with his talent, should have his offense geared up and playing supremely focused football every week. Those guys have a window, and they better get through the window before it closes. Slow and steady wins the race is good up until the last few yards of the race...then you better pour it on and finish the job.
They weren't calling for the coaches head when the Bills whupped them last year. They weren't calling for his head when they lost to Arizona & Seattle this year.

It's the NFL. Pulling out a close one in OT vs the Jags should not be a negative on our team or our coach.
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If I happened to be a Patriots fan, and Coach Bill didn't have his team prepared, focused, and playing their guts out in a game...I'd say the same thing about Bill.

Sometimes you guys live in a vacuum on this stuff. This isn't me "hating on Kubiak," this is me just saying that a coach of his tenure, with his talent, should have his offense geared up and playing supremely focused football every week. Those guys have a window, and they better get through the window before it closes. Slow and steady wins the race is good up until the last few yards of the race...then you better pour it on and finish the job.
This offense just set records and you're saying it's not geared up? We're halfway through the race and you're asking for them to pour it on and finish the job? The point to pour it on and finish the job is in the playoffs.

Personally, I think it's you having unrealistic expectations. We've put some ass-whoopings on some good teams this year. We've beaten teams by shutting them down in defensive battles; we've beaten teams by outscoring them in shoot-outs. We're 9-1.

During the game thread, you were saying "patience." I think you need to say that to yourself just a bit.
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If I happened to be a Patriots fan, and Coach Bill didn't have his team prepared, focused, and playing their guts out in a game...I'd say the same thing about Bill.
So, if you were in charge of a football team, you would burn through a Hall of Fame coach every year or two... this is how you defend yourself?

You can not go through the history of any coach in the NFL without seeing games where their team isn't playing to their potential. I get being critical of it when it happens. I am too. However, communicating as if the coach isn't qualified or is a failure, that is where you lose most reasonable people. The Texans are 9-1, including wins against 3 Superbowl contenders... And, they are coming off a season where they advanced in the playoffs with a rookie, 5th round, 3rd string QB. Chill out!
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This offense just set records and you're saying it's not geared up? We're halfway through the race and you're asking for them to pour it on and finish the job? The point to pour it on and finish the job is in the playoffs.

Personally, I think it's you having unrealistic expectations. We've put some ass-whoopings on some good teams this year. We've beaten teams by shutting them down in defensive battles; we've beaten teams by outscoring them in shoot-outs. We're 9-1.

During the game thread, you were saying "patience." I think you need to say that to yourself just a bit.
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So, if you were in charge of a football team, you would burn through a Hall of Fame coach every year or two... this is how you defend yourself?

You can not go through the history of any coach in the NFL without seeing games where their team isn't playing to their potential. I get being critical of it when it happens. I am too. However, communicating as if the coach isn't qualified or is a failure, that is where you lose most reasonable people. The Texans are 9-1, including wins against 3 Superbowl contenders... And, they are coming off a season where they advanced in the playoffs with a rookie, 5th round, 3rd string QB. Chill out!
If GP is an owner or a GM, he would have fired Belichick as the Browns did when he had only one winning season in his five years there.

And look where that franchise is now.

And if GP was with the Pats, he would have fired Belichick in his first year when they went 5-11.

Yupe, GP will have his way no matter what
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.... Not to mention it was the Bills backup QB Frank Reich and not Jim Kelly under center.
Is it safe to say Houston franchises don't do to well against backups??
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Is it safe to say Houston franchises don't do to well against backups??
We stopped Jason Campbell.

I wonder if we're going to see Shaun Hill Thursday. The Texans are starting to look like bad news for starting QBs.
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The Texans are starting to look like bad news for starting QBs.

The quarterback must go down, and he must go down hard.
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Well noone apologized when we took New England to OT in our sorry years and they barely squeaked out a win vs. us.
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Well noone apologized when we took New England to OT in our sorry years and they barely squeaked out a win vs. us.
That was 2003 - The Pats went to (and won) the Super Bowl that year. We actually beat the Panthers that season - they were the other team to go to the Super Bowl.
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We stopped Jason Campbell.

I wonder if we're going to see Shaun Hill Thursday. The Texans are starting to look like bad news for starting QBs.
It was rainy and cold...you know the Bears aren't good in the elements...oh wait
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Andre was actually targeted 19 times.

Quick answer to your question: Johnson is better than the guys trying to cover him.
Expanded Answer: Johnson is flat out better than the guy's attempting to cover him , and Kubiak's route combinations are brilliant.
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