Schaub #2 all time, passing yards in a game?

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by hradhak

I have wondered if the reps players were getting were because of the short week. Forsett played a lot more than expected (and probably should be getting a lot more carries based on his play today). Kubes still frustrates me with his playcalls, but you take the good with the bad. He's done good for this team and we can't just give all the credit to Wade Phillips.

Second on the Schaub for QB of the year. He's clearly been the best game manager.

It's impossible to make some people happy, especially GP

Whose play call was it that allow the Texans to score the most point ever?

Did Kubiak tell Graham to miss the FG?

Did Kubiak tell Wade he'd better have his defense sucking?

Come on guys

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

It's impossible to make some people happy, especially GP

Whose play call was it that allow the Texans to score the most point ever?

Did Kubiak tell Graham to miss the TWO FG's?

Did Kubiak tell Wade he'd better have his defense sucking?

Come on guys

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Thank you for the correction.

[buddyboy]

Originally Posted by GP

What, you think this just means all is forgiven of Kubiak???

We got the win, but damnation Kubiak went back and forth all day long...doing things that made sense (causing us to succeed), then deviating from it (causing us to suck). It was the most wish washy playcalling day I have seen in a long, long time.

The determination of our guys out there, and a bit of the Jags losing their nerve in important moments, saved our asses today.

Whether it is Dennison or Kubiak or both, I don't know, but this game and the GB game are the only two games I've seen our defense play a bit "off." This thing of the Texans' offense kicking back and sort of sleepwalking, it happens too often. We're a great team, though, and the leadership by Schaub & his offense is what is willing this team to victories.

Schaub is QB of the year, IMO. Period.

If it's on Kubiak's shoulders when the team and HIS players fail, then he should also get credit when the team and his players succeed. It should not be, "Schaub won despite Kubiak, but Kubiak is the head coach, so he is to blame for the losses". Just like Kubiak was responsible for the defensive woes with Frank Bush and company, but has zero to do with our defense this year or last.

I'm not saying all is forgiven, please understand that. I'm saying that win or lose, Kubiak deserves both credit and blame, but not all of it in either case.

[Corrosion]

Kubiak fumbled (Foster) and threw two INT's (Schaub) .... Kubiak gave up three TD's on third down's two of them 60+ yards .... Kubiak missed two FG's ..... Yep , Kubiak did all that and still found a way to eeek out a W.

[Thorn]

Strangely, being the Kubiak disser I normally am, I don't feel a need to get on him today. Yeah, the defense laid a big turd today, but that's more on Wade than Kubiak. We all know the story there. Kubiak's offense saved our asses today.

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by SrslySirius

So did Matt Schaub, with 527 yards today, just tie Warren Moon's #2 record for most passing yards in a game? Awesome, if so.

Not only that, but of the top 15 of most yards passing in a single game, only Matt Schaub is on that list twice.

[SrslySirius]

Originally Posted by gwallaia

I remember watching the Oilers game against the Chiefs when Moon threw for 527. Seems like the Oilers let up at the end and got the win and did not make an effort to break Van Brocklin's record which I think Moon would have easily done.

That's before my time. But my Dad tells me that Moon got pulled for the backup early in the 4th quarter of that game, and that he would have easily broken the record if they'd let him stay in. So basically, Warren Moon holds that honor with 3 quarters of work. Amazing.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by SrslySirius

That's before my time. But my Dad tells me that Moon got pulled for the backup early in the 4th quarter of that game, and that he would have easily broken the record if they'd let him stay in. So basically, Warren Moon holds that honor with 3 quarters of work. Amazing.

The ole chuck and duck (run and shoot) was fun to watch .... but I'll never forget that damn Barfalo game they lost after leading .... 35-3 in the 3rd quarter .... Not to mention it was the Bills backup QB Frank Reich and not Jim Kelly under center.


That led to .... the hiring of Buddy Ryan and this incident


Buddy Ryan: f luck your chuck and duck.

[Playoffs]

Originally Posted by SrslySirius

That's before my time. But my Dad tells me that Moon got pulled for the backup early in the 4th quarter of that game, and that he would have easily broken the record if they'd let him stay in. So basically, Warren Moon holds that honor with 3 quarters of work. Amazing.

Only one QB had stats for Houston that day.

[TexansFanatic]

Originally Posted by SrslySirius

That's before my time. But my Dad tells me that Moon got pulled for the backup early in the 4th quarter of that game, and that he would have easily broken the record if they'd let him stay in. So basically, Warren Moon holds that honor with 3 quarters of work. Amazing.

Moon wasn't pulled for the backup. He played the entire game. But rather than call more passing plays in order to get Moon the record in the closing minutes, the coaches rightly decided to run out the clock.

[SrslySirius]

Originally Posted by TexansFanatic

Moon wasn't pulled for the backup. He played the entire game. But rather than call more passing plays in order to get Moon the record in the closing minutes, the coaches rightly decided to run out the clock.

Ah. Well my Dad does seem to have selective memory. Thanks for clearing that up.

I know some folks will downplay this accomplishment because we got an extra possession in overtime. But posting HISTORIC numbers, I should think, would quiet some doubts people have about Matt Schaub's ability to carry this team to victory. He might not post 400 yards every week, but he sure as hell seems to come through when it counts.

[TexansFanatic]

Originally Posted by SrslySirius

He might not post 400 yards every week, but he sure as hell seems to come through when it counts.

He's a damn good QB --- I don't think there's any way around that. He is now 13-1 in his last 14 starts.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by SrslySirius

Ah. Well my Dad does seem to have selective memory. Thanks for clearing that up.

I know some folks will downplay this accomplishment because we got an extra possession in overtime. But posting HISTORIC numbers, I should think, would quiet some doubts people have about Matt Schaub's ability to carry this team to victory. He might not post 400 yards every week, but he sure as hell seems to come through when it counts.

He had posted great numbers in consecutive seasons (4500+ back to back , I believe only 9 QB's in history have accomplished the feat - from memory).

We all know he can throw the damn ball around and he's executed some 4th quarter comebacks (to be let down by the defense three times in 2010).


I think the biggest two knocks on Schaub are his lack of mobility (ability to extend plays) and that he doesnt have a cannon for an arm. Both would be fair criticism.

But , you do have to acknowledge the fact that he's "usually" very accurate , doesnt make many mistakes and is one of the best "ball handlers" in the NFL. (He probably left 50-75 yards on the field today with poor throws)


To be honest , I dont think he was really on top of his game today .... until that stretch of 16 straight completions.

One thing for sure , he's got to be more careful with the ball - Int last week , Two and a fumble this week. Very uncharacteristic mistakes by Schaub ..... You dont often lose the turnover battle and win in the NFL - Today they got away with one.

[ChampionTexan]

Originally Posted by TexansFanatic

Moon wasn't pulled for the backup. He played the entire game. But rather than call more passing plays in order to get Moon the record in the closing minutes, the coaches rightly decided to run out the clock.

Yeah, they pulled in the reins when the game was clearly in hand, but if I recall correctly, Pardee said later that he didn't realize how close Moon was to the record, or he would have let him try to get it.

KC ended up going 11-5 that season. Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis were their starting CBs back then, and many believed they were the best pair in the NFL at the time. Both went to the Pro Bowl that year, and Lewis was All Pro.

[MistaRed]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

He had posted great numbers in consecutive seasons (4500+ back to back , I believe only 9 QB's in history have accomplished the feat - from memory).

Close but not quite. Schaub is 1 of 12 QB's in nfl history to throw for 4,000 in back to back seasons. Only 5 have thrown for 4,500 back to back: Philip Rivers (2010-11), Dan Fouts (1980-81), Warren Moon (1990-91), Peyton Manning (2009-10) and Drew Brees (2010-11).

[infantrycak]

He also holds the record for most passing yards by a visiting QB in Lambeau and did it during the coldest game of the year - 414 yds.

[TexansFanatic]

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

if I recall correctly, Pardee said later that he didn't realize how close Moon was to the record, or he would have let him try to get it.

That does sound vaguely familiar.

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

KC ended up going 11-5 that season. Kevin Ross and Albert Lewis were their starting CBs back then, and many believed they were the best pair in the NFL at the time. Both went to the Pro Bowl that year, and Lewis was All Pro.

Wow, I had forgotten that. I just looked at KC's coaching staff that year. Bill Cowher was the defensive coordinator and Tony Dungy was the defensive backs coach.

[Corrosion]

Originally Posted by MistaRed

Close but not quite. Schaub is 1 of 12 QB's in nfl history to throw for 4,000 in back to back seasons. Only 5 have thrown for 4,500 back to back: Philip Rivers (2010-11), Dan Fouts (1980-81), Warren Moon (1990-91), Peyton Manning (2009-10) and Drew Brees (2010-11).

I didnt bother to look it up .... Just went from memory knowing the list was short. Thanks for filling in the blanks in my memory.

Thats some lofty company with Fouts , Manning and Brees ....

I probably dont give Moon or Rivers the credit they are due but they remind me of one another as they'll make some big plays and then make critical mistakes.

[Marcus]

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