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Old 11-16-2012   #141
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I love EIfert but OD is not going anywhere as on pace for 900 + yds. Casey will be resigned due to role he successfully fills. For a 3rd TE I like Mike Williams ND 6'5 272 good hands & very good blocker. Lower round than Fiedo. Besides, you don't go BPA when there is a dire need.

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Can't believe I forgot about Terrance Williams. And he should be available when we pick first round...
Still, I just don't see us going for that big name WR in the first round. The only time that's ever happened is with AJ, IIRC. Jacoby was what, a third rounder?
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Can't believe I forgot about Terrance Williams. And he should be available when we pick first round...
Still, I just don't see us going for that big name WR in the first round. The only time that's ever happened is with AJ, IIRC. Jacoby was what, a third rounder?
Yes JJ was a 3rd rounder and Terrance Williams might be available to us in the 2nd, if we do some trading up and get a higher 2nd round pick. There's some good 1st round WR talent next year, quite a few QB prospects, several OT prospects, some really good DT prospects, CB's etc... and all that talent may push Williams to the 2nd round.
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However, if we cut A.Smith, W.Smith, or OD for cap room, we get zero compensation.
Interesting that you see these as being 'bad contracts' if they get cut before time, seems like teams use contracts where they have the option to cut the guy early and save money as a tool in writing contracts.

I'd also note that only one of those names has cost us a draft pick and all 3 have played an important role in recent successes.
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Yeah I was reviewing my notes on a new mock with emphasis on second round. I was looking at Eifert's evals and typing notes on lap top. Guess I should pay more attention. Not the first and not the last boo boo. I guarantee it.
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There's a couple of Clemson guys who look good .
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There's a couple of Clemson guys who look good .
TBH, I have not followed this team; only two that stick out to me is QB Tajih Boyd who should remain in school and Rashard Hall safety that I mocked last season but lost interest in this one.
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TBH, I have not followed this team; only two that stick out to me is QB Tajih Boyd who should remain in school and Rashard Hall safety that I mocked last season but lost interest in this one.
Both DeAndre Hopkins and Sammy Watkins should have a future in the NFL.
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Well after watching the Jags slice and dice them some Texans D, I've got this:

1 CORNERBACK!!! Can't have enough guys that can cover and McCain just doesn't play up to snuff. More and more the 3rd corner is less of a situational player and is on the field for multiple snaps in a row. Not to mention someone to push KJ further and take reps for resting starters. It makes sense. I wouldn't be totally opposed to getting someone like TJ McDonald and moving Quin to nickel/3rd safety duty since he kinda does that anyway.

2 RG/RT like before, it's hard to knock a line that just helped Matt Schaub into the record books. Still thinkin that right side needs a big boost and the early round is the time to do it.

3 P It was awesome watching the Jags punter boom it 60+ yards down the field every time.

4 WR I think pushing the newly created depth (Jean/Posey/Martin) with another mid round selection would do the trick. In house competition will bring the best out of all involved.

5 DT Takes a slide but I think it's appropriate. I think as long as the position isn't completely snubbed in the draft they'll be ok. Maybe someone like Sonny Harris shows up next year again.

6 RB

7 KICKER Yes I know. Bullock didn't beat out the clown we have now so I'm not sold.
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1 CORNERBACK!!! Can't have enough guys that can cover and McCain just doesn't play up to snuff. More and more the 3rd corner is less of a situational player and is on the field for multiple snaps in a row. Not to mention someone to push KJ further and take reps for resting starters. It makes sense. I wouldn't be totally opposed to getting someone like TJ McDonald and moving Quin to nickel/3rd safety duty since he kinda does that anyway.
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2 RG/RT like before, it's hard to knock a line that just helped Matt Schaub into the record books. Still thinkin that right side needs a big boost and the early round is the time to do it.
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See Wagner in similar mold to Eric Winston. Big, smart technically sound could come into camp & win out RT position from Newton who would move back to swing tackle bumping both Butler & Gardner.

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3 P It was awesome watching the Jags punter boom it 60+ yards down the field every time.
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Leads the nation in punting average @ 48.2 per game. Your right special teams need infusion of talent. Texans will be their 5th rd. kicker back next season, Randy Bullock giving Texan kicking game a serious boost.

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4 WR I think pushing the newly created depth (Jean/Posey/Martin) with another mid round selection would do the trick. In house competition will bring the best out of all involved.
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5 DT Takes a slide but I think it's appropriate. I think as long as the position isn't completely snubbed in the draft they'll be ok. Maybe someone like Sonny Harris shows up next year again.
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Houston native, to come into camp & compete with Jamison who is out for season with torn acl, Texans do need to add depth across DL a loss to anyone now would be devastating.

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Plays bigger than he looks, a between the tackles thumper to replace Tate. Smart player with good ball production can be a bell cow, gets stronger with reps. Really impressive & big reason Stanford upset Oregon.

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7 KICKER Yes I know. Bullock didn't beat out the clown we have now so I'm not sold.
Bullock will be fine, before aggravating his groin he was dominate early in camp, then began his decline due to injury. Probably bpa for position of need. Hope you didn't mind I mocked you
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Bullock will be fine, before aggravating his groin he was dominate early in camp, then began his decline due to injury. Probably bpa for position of need. Hope you didn't mind I mocked you
I don't think that churning up the foot-ballers on this team is such a bad idea but it seems like Bullock was handed the job and still couldn't do it. With the Texans history I don't totally buy the injury but I suppose he is owed at least one more shot...

I didn't mind at all. You guys are much farther along than I am so now I have some names to go research. Tell you one that would be awesome and I've seen badboy praise him too....Dion Jordan. I think he would be perfect for this D.
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I don't think that churning up the foot-ballers on this team is such a bad idea but it seems like Bullock was handed the job and still couldn't do it. With the Texans history I don't totally buy the injury but I suppose he is owed at least one more shot...

I didn't mind at all. You guys are much farther along than I am so now I have some names to go research. Tell you one that would be awesome and I've seen badboy praise him too....Dion Jordan. I think he would be perfect for this D.
Let me toss you another name I have been watching, Quanteras Smith DE/OLB Western Kentucky. He plays with 3 Amigo mock selection Andrew Jackson. 7.5 sacks 2011 and 12.5 this year. He was suspended for one game "team rule violation" but I cannot find out what. Could be missed a meeting,etc
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i think CB and safety have jumped up the board for me in the last few weeks. both positions have solid starters but consistent competition and pressure is required which i think we lack in these areas.
Behind JJo and K-jax is ball, mccain, harris and carmichael who havnt done anything. McCain hasnt been all bad but we need compeition in this area.

Behind Quinn and Manning is demps and Keo. I like demps i think his a playmaker and keo is an excellent special teamer but i think we need to add in an extra guy here to get the most out of this group.
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at the moment my key areas are
OT, OG, TE, ILB, OLB, NT, CB, S

my reasoning is either depth is not very good, so incase of injury, or the starters need to be upgraded or pushed
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my reasoning is either depth is not very good, so incase of injury, or the starters need to be upgraded or pushed
what about aussie Jesse Williams, NT Alabama? Like a big can of Fosters in the middle of Bud & Miller Light.
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what about aussie Jesse Williams, NT Alabama? Like a big can of Fosters in the middle of Bud & Miller Light.
funny no one drinks fosters in australia, you go overseas and its everywhere.
but i like the way you think. williams is a beast of a man and would be a great pick up. im thinking him or nix from ND as first round NTs to look at
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Alot of this depends on things like do they re-sign Walter-Quin-Barwin-McCain?

How well do Mercilus/Barwin play in Reeds place?

Right now I think needs go something like this WR/RT/K/NT/CB/ILB/OLB/S/P.

If Quin leaves, the way the Texans use him S goes to need #1.
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Alot of this depends on things like do they re-sign Walter-Quin-Barwin-McCain?

How well do Mercilus/Barwin play in Reeds place?

Right now I think needs go something like this WR/RT/K/NT/CB/ILB/OLB/S/P.

If Quin leaves, the way the Texans use him S goes to need #1.
i would probably agree with this. i dont see quinn leaving though.
With butler, caldwell, and one of james or dobbins leaving, chuck in maybe mccain plus restructuring and maybe some other moves i think we keep all our key guys.
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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...tml?xid=cnnbin

plus 10mil in dead money because of d.ryans will help out.
i have faith in the FO to be able to sign our key guys.
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plus 10mil in dead money because of d.ryans will help out.
i have faith in the FO to be able to sign our key guys.
I also believe Barwin will be fairly easy to re-sign after his lackluster season.
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