Never thought I would say these words, but...

[417Texan]

One of my biggest things about Kareem is how solid his tackling and run support is. Man I was so sick of Marshall pushing off all nite and getting away with it.

[thunderkyss]

Definitely looked like it was man coverage. Kj peeked in the back field, saw Cutler eyeballing Marshall & he jumped the route. Great play & awareness by Kj,

[IDEXAN]

Kareem played very well last night, as did other members of our defense.
Kareem doesn't have long-speed ? Tell Devin Hester that: I saw KJ stick with the very fast Bears receiver, step for step, on a couple long pass-routes. And Kareem is without question among the best open-field tacklers in NFL CB ranks.

[HOU-TEX]

I'm really happy for KJ. He seems to have really dedicated himself since JJo's arrival.

On a side note; did any of y'all see the pass he defensed on the sideline? He had turned around to celebrate or something while the ball had been kicked back up in the air, landing right by his feet. Our entire sideline was jumping around yelling. It's kinda funny now, but KJ could've easily had another pick had he stayed with the play longer.

Maybe one of you gif gurus can do something with it if you find it

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by utahmark

Did he come here with Wade?

Hired 8 days after Wade .

[HTown2ATX]

I used to rip Kareem Jackson hard man!! I mean I couldn't stand him, but last night during the game I told me buddy at half time, KJ is effing legit now IMO. He totally has developed and I'm happy to say thrown egg on my face.

When I duck my head in the fridge to get something and I hear something big be given up on Defense....I don't automatically assume KJ got burned....and that says a lot as I always 100% of the time just assumed he did something stupid or fell down...and 99% of the time that did used to be the case....but not anymore

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Corrosion

It was not man coverage , it was a zone under designed to bracket Marshall .... with Jackson responsible for the seam and J.Jo the outside .... the safeties were responsible for the deep routes. Its pretty easy to see from the backfield view ..... After the ball is thrown.

You're right

But you're not going to win a discussion with 76 on stuff like this. He's never wrong. LOL

[BullNation4Life]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

No, he was the 49ers DB coach. A friend of Wade's recommended him for the job, Wade talked to him, the rest is history.

Ah my bad I was thinking the LB coach. Didn't he come over from the Cowboys?

[Porky]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I was one of KJ's harshest critics.

I'll happily eat crow on this one.

A healthy J.JO and KJ are the best CB duo in the NFL.

The Jets might have an argument to the contrary with a healthy Revis.

I'm coming here to officially eat my crow. I thought the guy was a bust. He still has very average speed, and once in a while still gets burned deep....but man has he come a LONG way. Not only is he not a bust, he is becoming one of the top #2 CB in the NFL. Unreal turnaround.

He's thinking like an elite level CB. You don't have to have elite speed if you know what the QB and the WR are thinking and what they are trying to do.

A perfect example of that is last night when he totally anticipated Cutler's pass. KJ breaks off his man practically before it left Cutler's arm, broke perfectly on the ball and picked it off. Beautiful. Kudos to Vance Joseph, but even bigger kudos to KJ. He used his doubters as fuel. You can either light a match and burn it down, or throw it in the tank to fuel your passion. He did the latter, and I couldn't be more pleased to be so wrong.

[drs23]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I was one of KJ's harshest critics.

I'll happily eat crow on this one.

A healthy J.JO and KJ are the best CB duo in the NFL.

Tabasco with that or just plain?

[DX-TEX]

Anyone else worried we may lose Vance to a DC spot next year?

[GP]

I'm ready to declare Kareem Jackson a 100% success. I was thinking I would wait until the end of the year, but there's no need to do that. I don't even think the guy has messed up ONCE this year.

He looks like the game is moving at his speed now. He appears to have dialed into the position in the NFL, and he's now trying to make plays instead of just treading water.

He's legitimately, genuinely a good CB.

[DBCooper]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I'm really happy for KJ. He seems to have really dedicated himself since JJo's arrival.

On a side note; did any of y'all see the pass he defensed on the sideline? He had turned around to celebrate or something while the ball had been kicked back up in the air, landing right by his feet. Our entire sideline was jumping around yelling. It's kinda funny now, but KJ could've easily had another pick had he stayed with the play longer.

Maybe one of you gif gurus can do something with it if you find it

Lol, I was yelling when that play was live.

If KJ had made sure the ball was down before celebrating, he could have caught that easily!

[Playoffs]

Originally Posted by Porky

The Jets might have an argument to the contrary with a healthy Revis.

As it stands, I think we just faced the best CB duo in the league with the Seahawks pair a close second.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by dream_team

The play where KJax fell in coverage... where Chris Collinsworth was making a big deal about Marshall being wide open and Campbell missed it.

Is that a legal play? Just wondering what the rules are there. It looked like zone coverage and KJ was sitting in his zone, then Marshall simply just runs him over. Legal?

Originally Posted by 76Texan

Anybody remember when that play happened; I'd like to go back and watch it.

In the meantime, here are the rules:

Actions that constitute offensive pass interference include but are not limited to:

(a) Blocking downfield by an offensive player prior to the ball being touched.

(b) Initiating contact with a defender by shoving or pushing off thus creating a separation in an attempt to catch a pass.

(c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field.

Originally Posted by Corrosion

Believe there were ~8minutes left in the final frame.

If its within 5 yards its a legal chuck. Outside of that five yards .... Its not.


I think it was probably beyond 5 yards .... tho not sure how far , Maybe Marshall sold the contact being mutual or it was borderline on the 5 yards and not called.

I found the play.
It was with 4:38 to go in the game.
KJ lined up 5 yards from the LOS and backpedaling.
Marshall made contact with KJax 9 yards from the LOS and pushed him off his feet, as in:
(c) Driving through a defender who has established a position on the field

Collingsworth rambled too much and forgot the situation.

IMO, Campbell understood that if he threw the ball to Marshall, a late flag might have been thrown so he checked the ball down.

It was a one-yard loss for the Bears anyway; perhaps the refs thought the Texans were happy enough with the results so they never pulled out the flag.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I'm really happy for KJ. He seems to have really dedicated himself since JJo's arrival.

On a side note; did any of y'all see the pass he defensed on the sideline? He had turned around to celebrate or something while the ball had been kicked back up in the air, landing right by his feet. Our entire sideline was jumping around yelling. It's kinda funny now, but KJ could've easily had another pick had he stayed with the play longer.

Maybe one of you gif gurus can do something with it if you find it

Originally Posted by DBCooper

Lol, I was yelling when that play was live.

If KJ had made sure the ball was down before celebrating, he could have caught that easily!

For me, it's kind of difficult to do with the speed of the game - it being a deep fade route.

KJax was moving backward after initial contact to avoid having his ankle rolled on by Hester; I think it's a normal reaction such that the DB would look where the receiver lands and rolls as to avoid injury.

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

For me, it's kind of difficult to do with the speed of the game - it being a deep fade route.

KJax was moving backward after initial contact to avoid having his ankle rolled on by Hester; I think it's a normal reaction such that the DB would look where the receiver lands and rolls as to avoid injury.

I'm not sure how he could've seen where the WR was rolling since he turned around to do his celebration or something towards the endzone. The ball was there for the grabbing had he not turned around, back pedaling or not.

Eh, he played a great game. Same with the rest of the D

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I'm not sure how he could've seen where the WR was rolling since he turned around to do his celebration or something towards the endzone. The ball was there for the grabbing had he not turned around, back pedaling or not.

Eh, he played a great game. Same with the rest of the D

The play was with 7:50 to go in the half.
They had two more camera angles on the replays.
Hopefully Dutch or Allstar or somebody can post the gifs of the play.

KJax was looking down at Hester and moving away from him at the same time to avoid having his ankle caught under Hester's fall.

That too his eyes away from seeing the fluky bounce of the ball off Hester's foot.
I'm sure he assumed that the ball had hit the ground.
I just think that expecting him to have more than two eyes is a bit much.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by IDEXAN

Kareem played very well last night, as did other members of our defense.
Kareem doesn't have long-speed ? Tell Devin Hester that: I saw KJ stick with the very fast Bears receiver, step for step, on a couple long pass-routes. And Kareem is without question among the best open-field tacklers in NFL CB ranks.

There was that play he ran down the right side with Hester, even though he backpedaled most of the way, he managed to turn his hips & stay on top for another 10 yards. Then when the ball was in the air, he turned & located the ball. He was in perfect position for the INT, but Hester took his legs out from under him way before the ball got there..... pass interference on the offense, wasn't called.

[Dutchrudder]

Originally Posted by Fiddler

There was that play he ran down the right side with Hester, even though he backpedaled most of the way, he managed to turn his hips & stay on top for another 10 yards. Then when the ball was in the air, he turned & located the ball. He was in perfect position for the INT, but Hester took his legs out from under him way before the ball got there..... pass interference on the offense, wasn't called.

That ball looked about 8 feet over his head. I think the only reason OPI wasn't called was due to it being uncatchable, because Kjax was definitely tackled there.