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Old 11-06-2012   #101
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i think we resign cody. he wont demand much money we will be able to resign him but i agree that NT is still a massive need. you get another playmaker on that line and it becomes a force for the next 10 years! THINK ABOUT THAT !!!

i dont think WR is a need this season, to call posey a mistake this early i think is a little rash i would give one more year. unless one of the top WR's fall.
Im all for bringing in another TE over a WR. THe 2nd TE is a lot more important in our Offence the the 2nd WR.

everything else im with you
Cody is the glue that holds the run defense together. IMHO I shudder at the thought of Mitchell having to play NT on a regular basis. This is why I'm hoping That Rick will be able to re-sign Cody. Even if Cody re-signs NT should be high on the needs list.

If Williams or Nix is there at 32, I probably would take them. You can never have enough depth on the DL.
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Cody is the glue that holds the run defense together. IMHO I shudder at the thought of Mitchell having to play NT on a regular basis. This is why I'm hoping That Rick will be able to re-sign Cody. Even if Cody re-signs NT should be high on the needs list.

If Williams or Nix is there at 32, I probably would take them. You can never have enough depth on the DL.
Which Williams are you in favor of taking at #32, Sylvester Williams or Jesse Williams?
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Cody is the glue that holds the run defense together. IMHO I shudder at the thought of Mitchell having to play NT on a regular basis. This is why I'm hoping That Rick will be able to re-sign Cody. Even if Cody re-signs NT should be high on the needs list.

If Williams or Nix is there at 32, I probably would take them. You can never have enough depth on the DL.
Depth is 3rd round territory. If lucky, you not only hit need but find a perfect fit. Mike Martin was that prospect in last years draft. Selected middle of 3rd rd. by the Tennessee Titans #82nd overall. Texans passed in favor of Posey #68 & Brooks #76. What have you (they) done lately? nothing. Meanwhile my next to favorite Martin (65) has 27 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 QB pressures & 4 tackles for loss.
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Which Williams are you in favor of taking at #32, Sylvester Williams or Jesse Williams?
Jesse,

Speaking of Williams' Brennan Williams RT North Carolina tore his labrum. If he recovers fully he should be available in the 3rd/4th rd.

Brennan Williams reminds me of a better version of Winston. Did you get a chance to see him play? His dad is a former NFL player, so he has talent and bloodlines.

Another guy to take a look at as a late rd pick Kyle Long. Howie boy, he hasn't played much football, but he is very athletically gifted. Kyle signed as a pitcher (MLB) straight out of high school.
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Depth is 3rd round territory. If lucky, you not only hit need but find a perfect fit. Mike Martin was that prospect in last years draft. Selected middle of 3rd rd. by the Tennessee Titans #82nd overall. Texans passed in favor of Posey #68 & Brooks #76. What have you (they) done lately? nothing. Meanwhile my next to favorite Martin (65) has 27 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 QB pressures & 4 tackles for loss.
BL, that just makes me sick! I wanted the Texans to pick Martin so bad. I just knew he was going to be good and I thought he'd be perfect in Wade's system. I guess they didn't feel the same. Now, with Cody's latest injury, I hope they take an early round pick on a NT. NT has been a thin spot for awhile now IMO.
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BL, that just makes me sick! I wanted the Texans to pick Martin so bad. I just knew he was going to be good and I thought he'd be perfect in Wade's system. I guess they didn't feel the same. Now, with Cody's latest injury, I hope they take an early round pick on a NT. NT has been a thin spot for awhile now IMO.
rare miss I'm hoping

your right about NT need. our best run defender now is Watt & Barwin. First Cushing now Cody out, a bump either depth wise (Terrell McClain) or starting caliber/compete for starter minutes (Jesse Williams, Alabama or if Louis Nix or Sheldon Richardson make themselves available).

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The Texans "need" Jesse Williams, but will probably ignore him due to excessive neck tats, even though he is well spoken and maintained a respectable (3.5 JUCO) GPA.
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The Texans "need" Jesse Williams, but will probably ignore him due to excessive neck tats, even though he is well spoken and maintained a respectable (3.5 JUCO) GPA.
Texans have history with several players with tats. Not sure of your point?
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Texans have history with several players with tats. Not sure of your point?
He is just jokingly making the point how out of character he would be. Honestly I think we can all agree the times they are a changing.
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He is just jokingly making the point how out of character he would be. Honestly I think we can all agree the times they are a changing.
Sorry, still don't get it as Texans have history of players with sleeves and all sorts of tats. Why would Jesse Williams be any different or out of character? No biggy just seemed incongruous.
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Actually I think we will just take the bpa. Right now we don't have any glaring holes. But we could use help almost everywhere. So bpa other than the following positions:

C, FB, DE (unless we lose Smith), OLB, and I'm almost inclined to include CB here as well with KJ and JoJo... I'm sure we could replace McCain. Oh and of course no P or kicker...

So just give me the best WR, OL, QB (yes, I'd be willing to invest in the future right now), TE, HB ( not very early but we might have to replace Tate), NT, ILB, S on the board and I'll be happy.
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1 NT and yes, a BIG brick in the wall wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (the worst thing in the world is watching current Texan NTs get consistently blown straight off the line). Just somebody that can hold the point would be great. Making plays, stopping the run, pass rush would all be gravy lol...mmmmmm gravy....

2 WR. Andre still has it but for how long? And Walter is no spring chicken. There is no clear cut heir and this pick really churns up the depth.

3 P. Yup. I doubt the Texans go 3rd round for one but I think the need for one is...pretty obvious.

4 RG/RT. Hard to knock a line that has Schaub and Foster producing behind it but I think they could take another stab at RT, even with a few young bucks on the rise and a stellar, veteran left side.

5 CB should probably be higher but really drafting for depth. Hopefully turns out better than Brandon "Inactive" Harris.

6 RB. This team relies on the ground game, Foster is carrying a ton this year and Tate has officially spent half his career injured.

7 S. Need special teams help.
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1 NT and yes, a BIG brick in the wall wouldn't be the worst thing in the world (the worst thing in the world is watching current Texan NTs get consistently blown straight off the line). Just somebody that can hold the point would be great. Making plays, stopping the run, pass rush would all be gravy lol...mmmmmm gravy....

2 WR. Andre still has it but for how long? And Walter is no spring chicken. There is no clear cut heir and this pick really churns up the depth.

3 P. Yup. I doubt the Texans go 3rd round for one but I think the need for one is...pretty obvious.

4 RG/RT. Hard to knock a line that has Schaub and Foster producing behind it but I think they could take another stab at RT, even with a few young bucks on the rise and a stellar, veteran left side.

5 CB should probably be higher but really drafting for depth. Hopefully turns out better than Brandon "Inactive" Harris.

6 RB. This team relies on the ground game, Foster is carrying a ton this year and Tate has officially spent half his career injured.

7 S. Need special teams help.
Yes to all the above. I'm totally revamping the way I look @ NFL draft prospects for Texans. Focus more on rough diamonds @ positions where depth is a concern, fill those holes w/high ceiling (affordable starting material) high character players. It's going to be tough on Rick Smith to keep this corp group together, Mercilus could replace Barwin, Harris could replace McCain & Texans not skip a beat. Maybe they resign Cody on the cheap since he is older & often nicked but spending a high pick @ his position is a strong probability. No way Texans sign Tate long term, so using him next draft to trade up in 2nd or 3rd is another viable option. Do Texans have to get a high end TE early, no, but he sure would help this possession style offense. Cushing will return next year so ILB will not be as big of need but long term he does need a running mate, more high quality inside linebacker depth at minimum. Martin looks better & better returning kicks, would like to see Texans keep some continuity with returner, focus more on setting up blocks down field. QB would be luxury pick, maybe use one of those supplemental picks? Interior line is the only must need in my view or if one of the elite RT prospects like Wagner is still available. Texans simply have to add more talent to protect Schaub because he lacks mobility & Foster needs cleaner holes to stay healthy & productive.
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I'm going to be doing a mock draft soon.

The Texans need to fix the offense in the worst way. A NT is a lesser need at this point but if value is there they should take one in the 1st rd and not reach.

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4.OG hopefully Brooks becomes a player in his 2nd yr. Depth will still be needed.
5. RB Tate will probably be gone. I like Grimes
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right tackle is climbing up my boards. newton's not showing me any progress - if anything he looks more lost each week.

right tackle, inside linebacker, and wide receiver are my top offseason priorities. i'm still not seeing the need to go nose tackle early, that seems like a luxury more than a need.
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right tackle is climbing up my boards. newton's not showing me any progress - if anything he looks more lost each week.

right tackle, inside linebacker, and wide receiver are my top offseason priorities. i'm still not seeing the need to go nose tackle early, that seems like a luxury more than a need.
I think Texans have allowed only 12 sacks with one against Bears in horrible field and weather conditions. Newton did not give up that sack. He is still making some mistakes but so are the others. Newton is going to be ok.
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If there was ever a draft I'd advocate moving up to the middle of the first (or earlier) or the beginning of the second to get multiple big time prospects, it's this one. It seems like our team only need a few more pieces here and there
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Texans will have to address long term contracts for both JJ Watt & Brian Cushing. Then guys like Barwin, Jackson & Quin are due. Texan brass on Kirby may look genius now but their work is never done & wil have to not only make the right choices, tough choices as well plus some Luck.

Good time this off-season to resign Cushing & Barwin. After that they will need to add several complimentary players on the cheap via draft/FA.
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Having drafted two WRs in the last draft... I don't think we're going to be drafting a 1-2 round WR. We need one, but we won't be. I don't think that's Rick Smith's m.o. and they're probably going to give Posey this free year and next year to prove himself before looking WR again, simply because they don't want to brush off such a recent draft pick as a bust so quickly.
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Having drafted two WRs in the last draft... I don't think we're going to be drafting a 1-2 round WR. We need one, but we won't be. I don't think that's Rick Smith's m.o. and they're probably going to give Posey this free year and next year to prove himself before looking WR again, simply because they don't want to brush off such a recent draft pick as a bust so quickly.
No need to "brush off" Posey next year, just cut Jean or let Walter go and there's your WR spot.

We could also stand to let go of one o-lineman or RB from the 53 man roster and add another WR.
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