Are we using Foster correctly?

[Thorn]

Re: Are we using Foster correctly?

Why? Do we have him waiting tables or something? Personally, I think he should be returning kicks and holding on FGs. At least that way he can be doing something useful.

[Oz Texan]

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

According to ESPN, through yesterday's game, Foster had been targeted 26 times this year (or 3.25 times per game). While it is down from prior years (5.4/game for '10 and '11 combined), it's not exactly 1 per game. More importantly is that of those 26 targets, he has 12 receptions or a completion rate of 46.1%. In 2010 and 2011, his completion rate was 78.6 and 73.6 percent respectively.

2012 Stats: (Foster is #218 after this week's game)
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Career Stats:
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He only has 4 drops on the season. That to me is NOT cause for concern.

Source http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...e=NFL&rank=232

[drs23]

Originally Posted by Oz Texan

He only has 4 drops on the season. That to me is NOT cause for concern.

Source http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...e=NFL&rank=232

Is that all? I'd have sure lost that bar bet. Seems like a few more than that. Glad to see I'm wrong and recalled incorrectly.

Go #23!

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by Oz Texan

He only has 4 drops on the season. That to me is NOT cause for concern.

Source http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...e=NFL&rank=232

That's not even close to correct, I'll pull up exact times later tonight after my daughter racks out if need be.

[PapaL]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

I might actually be cool with us using him as an ILB!!

How is he a kicking off? We could use a boost there.

[Allstar]

Foster had a few drops in the preseason.

[Wolf]

People are worried about the over abundace carries he is getting and now people are concerned about the amount of passes

[Oz Texan]

Originally Posted by NastyNate

That's not even close to correct, I'll pull up exact times later tonight after my daughter racks out if need be.

This number is only dropped passes that should have been caught. These do not include throws at his feet or over his head or batted or passes knocked away by defenders.

[NastyNate]

Originally Posted by Oz Texan

This number is only dropped passes that should have been caught. These do not include throws at his feet or over his head or batted or passes knocked away by defenders.

Like I said, not even close to correct. I've rewatched every game a few times this season and it's a lot more than that as far as catchable balls.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by NastyNate

Like I said, not even close to correct. I've rewatched every game a few times this season and it's a lot more than that as far as catchable balls.

Still awaiting your assessment, Mister-I-know-better-than-the-official-NFL-statisticians...

[NastyNate]

Game 1 vs Miami

11:29 in the 1q, over the middle, ball hits foster nice and soft and slips right right through his hands with nobody within 4 yards

7:20 1q on a slip screen ball is thrown high but catchable, ball deflected off foster's hands.

Game 2 vs Jax

9:35 1q dumpoff over the middle/left and hits foster right in the hands, drops it.

I'll watch the denver game later today and further update.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by NastyNate

Game 1 vs Miami

11:29 in the 1q, over the middle, ball hits foster nice and soft and slips right right through his hands with nobody within 4 yards

7:20 1q on a slip screen ball is thrown high but catchable, ball deflected off foster's hands.

Game 2 vs Jax

9:35 1q dumpoff over the middle/left and hits foster right in the hands, drops it.

I'll watch the denver game later today and further update.

Two games and you're up to two. That "high but catchable" is subjective and therefore disallowed by the judges.


What would really be interesting is to see how your assessment - for each game - compares with the official stat-keepers for the NFL. I'm sure you're convinced that what you see is correct - all humans have that fault - just as I'm sure that those Stat.com guys think they know what a "drop" is and what it isn't.

My question is, So WHAT? We're 7-1 and none of those drops cost us a win. So, so what if Foster dropped 4 or 40? When one of these "drops" costs us a game, we'll all be screaming.
Me included.
Until then... meh.

oh and....

[ChampionTexan]

Originally Posted by ObsiWan

Two games and you're up to two. That "high but catchable" is subjective and therefore disallowed by the judges.


What would really be interesting is to see how your assessment - for each game - compares with the official stat-keepers for the NFL. I'm sure you're convinced that what you see is correct - all humans have that fault - just as I'm sure that those Stat.com guys think they know what a "drop" is and what it isn't.

My question is, So WHAT? We're 7-1 and none of those drops cost us a win. So, so what if Foster dropped 4 or 40? When one of these "drops" costs us a game, we'll all be screaming.
Me included.
Until then... meh.

oh and....

I'm as much of a kool-aid guy as most folks, but saying we're 7-1 shouldn't be a catch-all (pun intended) response for any thread/post questioning the Texans.

As to the drops, while on a basis that is admittedly both anecdotal and subjective, I question the accuracy of the statistic of four drops. On a completely objective and stat-driven level, I'll point out that even taking the four drops as absolutely accurate, that puts Foster at tied for 20th in drops, and tied for 136th in targets.

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[dc_txtech]

Originally Posted by ChampionTexan

I'm as much of a kool-aid guy as most folks, but saying we're 7-1 shouldn't be a catch-all (pun intended) response for any thread/post questioning the Texans.

As to the drops, while on a basis that is admittedly both anecdotal and subjective, I question the accuracy of the statistic of four drops. On a completely objective and stat-driven level, I'll point out that even taking the four drops as absolutely accurate, that puts Foster at tied for 20th in drops, and tied for 136th in targets.

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This. Assuming the stats are correct, he has had 16 catchable balls thrown at him and dropped 4. That's not good, that's really bad.