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Old 11-05-2012   #21
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For the record that was Jim Eddy's defense, not Buddy Ryan's. Eddy was fired due to that loss and Ryan was brought in to replace him the following season.
yep. Buddy's defense didn't fall apart until the next year when Joe Montana and the Chiefs came to town for a playoff game.

Sad part is that Ryan had one nemesis in Chicago, and that was a Joe Montana-led west coast offense. Bill Walsh used to drive him crazy, according to Buddy. Those short, precise timing patterns could get the better of his blitz-heavy 46 defense.
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You'll note that Dex didn't include "Mighty" Vince Young on his list.
Sorry to inform Longhorn fans, that omission on my part was very intentional.
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Sorry to inform VY fanboys, that omission on my part was very intentional.
FIFY .. us normal Longhorn fans are content with what he did for us at the college level.
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What Houston missed out on with Moon was a QB that could even get a sniff of the Lombardi trophy. You could count on two things with Warren.

1. He would always choke in big games.
2. He was a pioneer at making it rain at many gentlemens establishments around Houston.
Meh. I would put the Oilers' playoff failures on Pardee's offense, and not
on Moon. In the Playoffs, you need the ability to sit on a lead with your
defense and running game, and allow the clock to run. The Run-n-Shoot
got exposed during the playoffs, because if you couldn't score, there was
no way to consistently hold on to the ball.

If Moon would've gotten any kind of running game, like Mcnair eventually
did with Eddie George, we'd have seen a Superbowl banner hanging in
The Dome. The defense was stacked the year Ryan got here, we had
a Hall of Fame quarterback, and great receivers. The lack of ball control
through running it is what killed the Oilers, not Warren Moon.

The 35-3 game is a prime example. Fortunately, I'm not weak enough to
have been traumatized by seeing it. It only makes me glad to know that
if the Texans get up on ANYBODY 35-3 at halftime, Arian Foster, Ben
Tate, Justin Forsett, and whoever else we throw back there are gonna
be munchin a lot of clock.

Before you give me the '99 Rams as an example of what the Oilers could've
done, I'll tell ya right now there is no comparison. Moon never had a RB
as dynamic as Marshall Faulk, who could run the ball between the tackles,
and pull coverage as a receiver.

My main point is Moon is a Hall of Famer not only for his stats, but all
the **** he had to go through to get time enough to EARN those stats.
We all know that no Black man would get the same patience he received from
any team, to throw as many interceptions Brett Favre did, in order to become
the all-time leader in touchdowns.

The fact that what I just said may make some people uncomfortable when
they read it. It doesn't make what is said any less true. Truth and understanding
should be the goal of any discourse.
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