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Old 10-30-2012   #21
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Kubiak would be legally insane to not pick Grimes back up.

I know a lot of you think the position would be log-jammed, but I don't care. If we lost Foster or Tate, we'd be screwed in terms of depth. I had Forsett and Grimes as basically the same guy in preseason, so it's not like we'd be trying to see if Grimes can hack it. He can. Now he's available. Go get him, and waive a guy like Alan Ball who will be available any day of the week on the street if needed...Grimes played special teams in the preseason, and he's more valuable than Ball if Tate's injury lingers.
I totally agree--go get him. Aside from losing Cush for the season, it sickened me to lose Grimes to the Jets. We need depth at RB.

...And move Forsett to KR/PR.
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A) DAYUM - Ben Tate was a great change-up from Arian
B) DAYUM - Losing Grimes HURT
C) DAYUM - Having Justin Forsett as a back-up doesn't suck either!
D) All that said, if Tate is done and having Forsett as a third, errr as a second..., it would've been really nice to have Grimes on the Practice Squad...... DAMN Those dysfunctional Jets!!! EFFERS!!!!!!
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A) DAYUM - Ben Tate was a great change-up from Arian
B) DAYUM - Losing Grimes HURT
C) DAYUM - Having Justin Forsett as a back-up doesn't suck either!
D) All that said, if Tate is done and having Forsett as a third, errr as a second..., it would've been really nice to have Grimes on the Practice Squad...... DAMN Those dysfunctional Jets!!! EFFERS!!!!!!
I think Grimes was let go today, so he's currently available. Although I'm not exactly clear on how the rules work. Surely he can find his way back onto our practice squad?
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I have not been following the Jets this year, but aren't the Jets RB needy? Wasn't there some buzz about them using Tebow as a RB? Why would they cut him then?
Grimes was evidently a plugin. Their favorite RB Powell and another of their RBs are coming back to action this week. Their RB are as much of the problem as their OL.
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I think Grimes was let go today, so he's currently available. Although I'm not exactly clear on how the rules work. Surely he can find his way back onto our practice squad?
If he's claimed on waivers, he has no choice but to go to the team that claims him. If he's not claimed, any team can add him to their practice squad. Rumor is the Jets want him on theirs. If both the Texans and Jets make him PS offers (or any other NFL team for that matter), it's 100% his call where he goes.
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Kubiak is not happy with Tate's inability to stay on the field...

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ring-bye-week/

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Im not going to do anything different right now, but now youre going from three-deep to two-deep, so its a concern as we move forward, Kubiak said. How much time Ben misses to sit here and have two active running backs on your team with a nine-week stretch coming up here, its something we have to really take a hard look at. Weve got a young man on our practice squad in (RB Davin) Meggett that we like. There may be a decision to make there at some point.
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Add RB to the mocks and expect Tate to be moved.
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and his trade value continues to drop....
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We just claimed Grimes off waivers and released Mister Alexander. It's tough seeing Alexander go, especially from a ST perspective, but I'm optimistically hoping that this means Darryl Sharpton is close to 100%.
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We just claimed Grimes off waivers and released Mister Alexander. It's tough seeing Alexander go, especially from a ST perspective, but I'm optimistically hoping that this means Darryl Sharpton is close to 100%.
Both are good moves.
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Kubiak is not happy with Tate's inability to stay on the field...

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ring-bye-week/
One thing after another?!?! Wow... those are some harsh words coming from Kubiak. I'm frustrated too but Ben Tate is a punishing runner. It's not like he's coming up lame. One thing after another? Man... I would have reworded that a bit better as he earned every punishing yard he gave us. We sent him to the front lines with a difficult job that dishes out a bit more consequences.
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I also think that Kubiak could have been more subtle. I never heard those words for Mario, who if anyone deserved them, it was him.

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Its day-to-day with Ben, head coach Gary Kubiak said. But we kept him inside today to do his rehab. If I had to guess hell be there (Thursday), which is our big work day, Id say no.
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Geez, Gary, what the **** dude? Seriously?

Gary's losing his marbles. You've got a salad eating Foster going to the turf on first contact at the LOS and you call out Tate who freaking grinds out the hard yards on a consistent basis?

Screw THAT guy. Tate should go elsewhere and not deal with Grumpy McDoofus who (a) lucked into Foster and (b) waived Grimes and now has to add him back. Gary, you also cut Hartmann in favor if Maynard and had to eat your decision within a week of it.

That's some major bull**** from Kubiak. Tate does t deserve that crap. That pisses me smooth off.
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One thing after another?!?! Wow... those are some harsh words coming from Kubiak. I'm frustrated too but Ben Tate is a punishing runner. It's not like he's coming up lame. One thing after another? Man... I would have reworded that a bit better as he earned every punishing yard he gave us. We sent him to the front lines with a difficult job that dishes out a bit more consequences.
Amen to that!

I guess Tate isn't putting up with Gary's ways and there might be a rift there.
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Well, hell. We all know the potential of Tate, but he's in his 3rd year now and we've gotten one good year so far out of him.

I know I want him on the field, because him and Foster are the NFL's best one-two punch. But we just haven't seen much of him this year, and what we've seen wasn't a lot.
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All I can figure is that there are grumblings or indications by Tate or his agent that Tate isn't wanting to be a RBBC guy anymore.

Kubiak doesn't just publicly bawl a guy out in the media like this...so there's gotta be more than meets the eye. Kubiak is supposedly overly loyal, to a fault, and that always cuts a guy deep when he feels a player or coach isn't being loyal back to him.

I cannot fathom Kubiak speaking like this unless there's some issues where he thinks he's not getting a player's best. But still, that's uncharacteristic of Gary...he does that stuff in camp, I don't recall him busting chops like that in reg season. Anybody?
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Forsett and Grimes are interchangeable 2nd stringers. If Tate can't play, we have to use Foster more sparingly.

If we get a big lead on Buffalo, Kubiak needs to have the sense to pull Foster and give the carries to one of these other two RBs, at least until they prove themselves ineffective.
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Geez, Gary, what the **** dude? Seriously?

Gary's losing his marbles. You've got a salad eating Foster going to the turf on first contact at the LOS and you call out Tate who freaking grinds out the hard yards on a consistent basis?

Screw THAT guy. Tate should go elsewhere and not deal with Grumpy McDoofus who (a) lucked into Foster and (b) waived Grimes and now has to add him back. Gary, you also cut Hartmann in favor if Maynard and had to eat your decision within a week of it.

That's some major bull**** from Kubiak. Tate does t deserve that crap. That pisses me smooth off.
Or causes you to overreact to the bat**** crazy level. The OL has obviously been in transition this season. Saying Tate grinds out the hard yards in comparison to Foster is laughable. Foster is in unless relieved and has faced far more short yardage defense packages. Maybe we should bench both of them since Forsett averages a full yard more.

Now go eat your steak and see if it helps you be an NFL RB more than what Foster has chosen. One of you was leading the NFL in yards and TD's through 7 games. The other was wiping Doritos on the couch.
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Well, hell. We all know the potential of Tate, but he's in his 3rd year now and we've gotten one good year so far out of him.

I know I want him on the field, because him and Foster are the NFL's best one-two punch. But we just haven't seen much of him this year, and what we've seen wasn't a lot.
I'm with you Thorn. Tate has been "nicked" or flat out hurt more than he's played in the three years he's been here. When he's been 100% he's been good. But how often has that been. First the toe thing now this hammy.... And Doc's told us how finicky hammy's can be. This hammy thing could drag on all year. Best to sit him for a week or two more and try to let it heal up properly. I'd like to have him back to 100% for late in the season.


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I'm with you Thorn. Tate has been "nicked" or flat out hurt more than he's played in the three years he's been here. When he's been 100% he's been good. But how often has that been. First the toe thing now this hammy.... And Doc's told us how finicky hammy's can be. This hammy thing could drag on all year. Best to sit him for a week or two more and try to let it heal up properly. I'd like to have him back to 100% for late in the season.


....oh and isn't it interesting that the "salad-eating guy" is the durable one compared to the steak-eating guy...?
Don't forget the broken ankle that cost him his rookie year.
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