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Old 10-15-2012   #21
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it's not the loss i'm worried about but the way we lost.

just something to have in the back of my mind heading into the playoffs. luckily the afc isn't very good so they can still easily make it to the afc championship game.

but all of that is too early right now. gotta stay healthy.
This. Getting out worked, out hustled, out desired and out coached always raises huge red flags.
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This. Getting out worked, out hustled, out desired and out coached always raises huge red flags.
The Packers were desperate .... the Texans werent.
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On the bright side no more "A must Win" threads....
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I'm not to worried about "this loss." It was the Packers and Rodgers was due for a huge game. Sometimes losses like these can really whip a team into shape. We all knew the Texans wouldn't go 16-0, so I'd rather see us losing to a team that I'd expect us to have a problem with. This is a wake up call that we obviously needed.

Now if we lose to the Ravens pretty badly, then I'll be very worried.
I think you've summed it up well Tex.

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Every once in a while someone comes along and just beats the living crap out of New England. Ever notice that? Usually it happens at the beginning of the year (one year when the Bills did it comes to mind in particular). Even good teams have bad days from time to time. We're just all accustomed to the other shoe dropping and so we assume this is the Texans reverting to form instead of the Texans stumbling over a bump in the road.

Whether you think this is a single misstep that will be righted or the emergence of the Texans true nature and beginning of the end one thing can't be avoided. we have to move on.The Texans vs Baltimore prediction thread can't get here soon enough if you ask me.
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Every once in a while someone comes along and just beats the living crap out of New England. Ever notice that? Usually it happens at the beginning of the year (one year when the Bills did it comes to mind in particular). Even good teams have bad days from time to time. We're just all accustomed to the other shoe dropping and so we assume this is the Texans reverting to form instead of the Texans stumbling over a bump in the road.

Whether you think this is a single misstep that will be righted or the emergence of the Texans true nature and beginning of the end one thing can't be avoided. we have to move on.The Texans vs Baltimore prediction thread can't get here soon enough if you ask me.
Agreed on all points.

I just think it'll be tough to get this taste out of our mouths until they pick up another W.
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I think it is not so much we were dominated in this game, but that were dominated last week in the run and pass game, too. That is what has me concerned next week with Baltimore. We are showing weakness in those two areas and the good teams generally are strong there.

Last season was our best chance to go to the SB apparently when we had more veteran starters performing at peak levels. 6 left and the 6 replacements are not performing at those same levels, and it is showing up. Can all 6 get up to speed this year plus cushing's replacement? So far no. Kubiak is having to platoon the right side of the OL and it isn't producing the results we need. The DL isn't performing at the same level as last year, and the secondary is cracking here lately.

Looking forward to the rest of the year, and hoping we can pull it together.
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On the bright side no more "A must Win" threads....
You couldn't be more wrong ...next week is a MUST WIN!!!
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Agreed on all points.

I just think it'll be tough to get this taste out of our mouths until they pick up another W.

Quickest way to do that is to stomp the guts out of a wounded Baltimore team. If we win Sunday I'm not going to even think about waving it in the faces of Ravens fans. We will have beaten a very depleted Ravens team and anyone who doesn't understand that is a fool. Beating them with Suggs, Lewis, Webb, and Ngata is entirely different from beating them without those guys (should Ngata not play or be far below 100%).

We need the win though so I don't think we should apologize for it. You play the cards your dealt and we had losses last year that came almost certainly as a result of Schaub being lost for the year. Had we picked up a couple more wins along the way we'd have most likely hosted them in the second round and who knows what could have happened.

Luck factors into it as much as anything else.

We're lucky they didn't lose Sunday because the Ravens almost never lose two in a row these days. We're lucky that they're banged up. We're lucky that we are no worse than we are and we're lucky that we've got a bye week coming up after this game. The timing couldn't be better for the Texans to win their first ever game against the Ravens and then getting some rest and regrouping.

A good ass-beating can wake up a complacent team that's been reading it's own press and believing it. As long as we don't fall into a rut and rip off 3-4 lousy games in a row this is survivable.
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Quickest way to do that is to stomp the guts out of a wounded Baltimore team. If we win Sunday I'm not going to even think about waving it in the faces of Ravens fans. We will have beaten a very depleted Ravens team and anyone who doesn't understand that is a fool. Beating them with Suggs, Lewis, Webb, and Ngata is entirely different from beating them without those guys (should Ngata not play or be far below 100%).

We need the win though so I don't think we should apologize for it. You play the cards your dealt and we had losses last year that came almost certainly as a result of Schaub being lost for the year. Had we picked up a couple more wins along the way we'd have most likely hosted them in the second round and who knows what could have happened.

Luck factors into it as much as anything else.

We're lucky they didn't lose Sunday because the Ravens almost never lose two in a row these days. We're lucky that they're banged up. We're lucky that we are no worse than we are and we're lucky that we've got a bye week coming up after this game. The timing couldn't be better for the Texans to win their first ever game against the Ravens and then getting some rest and regrouping.

A good ass-beating can wake up a complacent team that's been reading it's own press and believing it. As long as we don't fall into a rut and rip off 3-4 lousy games in a row this is survivable.
I've seen the theory that the Texans possibly began buying their own hype and got complacent. I never wanted to believe that, because this team just seemed too focused and disciplined. I still don't think it was the case, and that they just had their ass handed to them.

But some of the penalties that extended drives and losing their composure was discouraging. Still, I think it could end up being a one-time thing and not a recurring problem.

As far as Baltimore's injuries, it definitely works in the Texans' favor. I just think the importance of those injuries has to be dampened a little bit because their previous two opponents seemed to show up despite not having some of their key players.

This may seem as a corny/cheesy/lame(whatever you want to call it) point, but I think there's something to be said about the former Texans on the Ravens. Each one--Pollard, Leach, Jones--understandably seemed a little bitter after leaving. And I know they've already played the Texans twice, but I think playing them at Reliant could re-ignite that fire. Just something to think about.
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I think this loss (although tough to swallow) is good in the long run. It sounds hokey, but it got it out of the way, ends all the blank and 0 crap.

This should give the team something to think about all season, hopefully the media will bash us the remainder of the season and put a chip back on the teams shoulder.
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