Jonathan Joseph

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by rolyat93

Honestly, I don't think KJ even touched the receiver.(His body, or his arms) I don't know what the refs can ask for in that situation.

The reason KJ got called for PI was b/c Jones "appeared" to be trying to come back a bit for the ball & KJ ran into him a little which sort of prevented Jones from coming back all the way. That, & KJ half-heartedly looking back to find the ball.

[Stemp]

Originally Posted by Mr. Texan

the front 7 didn't contain rodgers at all or even rattle him.

that niners game at the beginning of the season they were all in rodgers grill and forced him to stay in the pocket.

pass defense starts with pressure on the qb.

I haven't had a chance to rewatch the game, but from what I could tell, he DIDN't have or need a ton of time in the pocket because he was getting the ball out so fast. And his receivers were making some ridiculous catches to boot. Everything went right for Green Bay, including being on the right side of some questionable calls.

[beerlover]

JJ & KJ were on the wrong end of an NFL elite QB on a mission who was able to stay clean in the pocket all night. Bad combination.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Stemp

I haven't had a chance to rewatch the game, but from what I could tell, he DIDN't have or need a ton of time in the pocket because he was getting the ball out so fast. And his receivers were making some ridiculous catches to boot. Everything went right for Green Bay, including being on the right side of some questionable calls.

when that is happening you go to combo coverages and stop putting your guys on an island 100% of the time. If he gets the ball out without thinking...pick 6. However, when you try to force a pass rush and just leave your guys out to hang, its easy pickings. You can't do this with guys like Rogers, Brady and Brees.

[Mr. Texan]

those 7 yard cushions didn't help either

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by Mr. Texan

those 7 yard cushions didn't help either

when your S is in the box playing linebacker you must give a cushion.

[Mr teX]

which by default you're giving up the slant..a staple of GB's offense.

[HOU-TEX]

The Colts won last week by supposedly playing press coverage on Packers WRs. I didn't see that game so I'm not sure if that was true or not. Not sure why we didn't do it much if it was true.

[TejasTom]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

The reason KJ got called for PI was b/c Jones "appeared" to be trying to come back a bit for the ball & KJ ran into him a little which sort of prevented Jones from coming back all the way. That, & KJ half-heartedly looking back to find the ball.

KJ was interviewed after game, he asked the ref what he did and said the ref couldn't/wouldn't tell him.

[Playoffs]

Something is different with J Jo this year ..... not sure what it is, but I'm seeing a difference.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by TejasTom

KJ was interviewed after game, he asked the ref what he did and said the ref couldn't/wouldn't tell him.

The ref probably just didn't want to entertain him at that time..Those guys have at least 20-25 encounters if not more where players and coaches are asking about specific plays. In any event, that 1 play was aiken to being pushed down on the ground in the grand scheme of the curb stomping we recieved last night.

[silvrhand]

Isn't JJ banged up, aka his groin or something? That's brutal on a CB to have groin issues.

[noxiousdog]

Originally Posted by Vinny

you keep putting your cb's on an island...then get no edge rush against a premiere QB. This is what you get. Nothing wrong with JJ.

msr.

I think you and db are exactly right. An elite qb is going to beat a single covered db's given enough time. And Rodgers was given a lot of time.

[CloakNNNdagger]

Originally Posted by silvrhand

Isn't JJ banged up, aka his groin or something? That's brutal on a CB to have groin issues.

He was listed as having a groin issue in weeks 3 and 4. Week 5 he disappeared from the injury list altogether and reappeared in week 6 as a knee. Despite this, I have heard people and announcers keep talking about his groin slowing him down. Who knows how really accurate any of the injury reports are. However, groin issues can easily turn into or add to knee issues through compensation.

[Vinny]

He ran well last night. I didn't see any tender running or running like he is protecting anything or limping or anything...he ran well, cut well. He was just on an island with no help a lot.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

The Colts won last week by supposedly playing press coverage on Packers WRs. I didn't see that game so I'm not sure if that was true or not. Not sure why we didn't do it much if it was true.

I have NFL Game Rewind on right now.
We did play a lot of press coverage to start out the game.

It just seems to me like the Packers have a copy of our game plan or something. They seem to be right on pretty much everything.

[HOU-TEX]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

I have NFL Game Rewind on right now.
We did play a lot of press coverage to start out the game.

It just seems to me like the Packers have a copy of our game plan or something. They seem to be right on pretty much everything.

I told my wife that last night. I told her it was like the Packers were patched into our headsets or something. It was crazy, like they knew every move we were making

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

I told my wife that last night. I told her it was like the Packers were patched into our headsets or something. It was crazy, like they knew every move we were making

I hate to say it, but the refs were partial for the Packers (when they needed it the most.)

On the first TD pass by Rodgers, Nelson clearly pushed off on JJo to get seperation. Chris Collingsworth pointed that out right away.

[Vinny]

Originally Posted by 76Texan

I hate to say it, but the refs were partial for the Packers (when they needed it the most.)

On the first TD pass by Rodgers, Nelson clearly pushed off on JJo to get seperation. Chris Collingsworth pointed that out right away.

Joseph was doing his share of pushing beyond the 5 yard zone if you are being honest...I was talking about that last night with friends.

[76Texan]

Originally Posted by Vinny

Joseph was doing his share of pushing beyond the 5 yard zone if you are being honest...I was talking about that last night with friends.

Notice I said "when they needed it the most".