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Old 10-11-2012   #261
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Barwin drops into coverage because he isn't a pass rusher. If Wade had a pure pass rusher, like Demarcus Ware, or Shaun Merriman, he'd never drop.
Got to say this has surprised me about Barwin, when drafted the talk was that he was a tweener prospect who would be a pass rushing specialist in the 4-3, his rookie season he put up good numbers in terms of sacks playing spot duty.

Also, his second season I remember lots of quotes (and no....I'm not going to trawl through and find them) from Kubiak about how big a loss he was to our D, because although not pegged to start, he had a key role in our plans to create pressure. We definitely missed his production and struggled to generate pressure that year.

Perhaps Wade has coached something different into him over the offseason, having realised he can get all the pressure he needs on that side from Watt, IDK.

Just something doesn't add up to me, dude's put up really good pass rushing numbers from various positions over his pro career, is in his contract year, and is playing for a coach who is great at getting pressure from that specific position.

All this makes me extremely wary of putting the guy down, I reckon if you were to sit down with Wade Phillips and ask him how Barwin is playing this season, I think he'd be happy that he's doing exactly whats being asked of him. Now that really is pure conjecture, but I just struggle to beleive that, all factors considered, this guy has chosen now to suddenly throw a Zac Diles on us.
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Got to say this has surprised me about Barwin, when drafted the talk was that he was a tweener prospect who would be a pass rushing specialist in the 4-3, his rookie season he put up good numbers in terms of sacks playing spot duty.

Also, his second season I remember lots of quotes (and no....I'm not going to trawl through and find them) from Kubiak about how big a loss he was to our D, because although not pegged to start, he had a key role in our plans to create pressure. We definitely missed his production and struggled to generate pressure that year.

Perhaps Wade has coached something different into him over the offseason, having realised he can get all the pressure he needs on that side from Watt, IDK.

Just something doesn't add up to me, dude's put up really good pass rushing numbers from various positions over his pro career, is in his contract year, and is playing for a coach who is great at getting pressure from that specific position.

All this makes me extremely wary of putting the guy down, I reckon if you were to sit down with Wade Phillips and ask him how Barwin is playing this season, I think he'd be happy that he's doing exactly whats being asked of him. Now that really is pure conjecture, but I just struggle to beleive that, all factors considered, this guy has chosen now to suddenly throw a Zac Diles on us.
I think Barwin maybe lost a step since his rookie season. Back then, he was usually playing the RDE, spelling Mario. I don't think he's strong enough to go against a LT all the time. Not that Merci is stronger, but he's quicker.

Barwin's strength would help him against TEs & his speed would look better against the less athletic RT.

As far as sitting down with Wade, he's said plenty of times, that the WOLB in his system is the main guy to get pressure on the QB. He's like the running back to Kubiak's offense. The system is designed to make him successful, but you put a special player there & you get league leading production. Barwin isn't producing league leading results.
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Did y'all take a wrong turn? Barwin thread over there. This is the JJ Swatt thread.
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Did y'all take a wrong turn? Barwin thread over there. This is the JJ Swatt thread.
I thought this was the Mario Williams thread.
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Antonio Smith, isn't he also in a contract year?
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Antonio Smith, isn't he also in a contract year?
I don't think so although I believe his cap situation makes him very cuttable this off-season...that'd be a tough decision for the FO to make though.

Better watch out the thread police are about.
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...Watching the Texans ex-pizza delivery guy destroying quarterbacks using spin and swim moves as a second year player makes me wonder why Williams never seemed to make that next step where experience and ability come together...even so it would have been cool to see him play at OLB the rest of last season. That game against Pittsburg was epic.
Yes it was. I think that's the best I've ever watched Mario play. Could almost see Big Ben always trying to see where #90 was and it still didn't do him any good.
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To that, I must point out that good quarterbacks don't let other grown men touch their balls!
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despite the sky falling and a team that's about to go 0-16 en route to firing everyone ... jj watt is still destroying teams. 2 more sacks puts him back in the league lead with an unbelievable 9.5*.
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despite the sky falling and a team that's about to go 0-16 en route to firing everyone ... jj watt is still destroying teams. 2 more sacks puts him back in the league lead with an unbelievable 9.5*.
10.5 in my book.
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