Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone - Page 3 - Houston Texans Message Board & Forum

silentassassin · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by pbat488

unsubstantiated rumor. it's likely marciano wanted him, but to say it was solely joe's pick is an opinion that's being presented as fact.

It's a stretch. But listening to Kubiak everytime he fielded questions during the preseason about Holliday, he didn't seem as excited as everyone else about the possibility of him being on the team. He always followed up positive points about Holliday with things about him having to be able to play within the offense or showing more.

**eriadoc** · 10-10-2012

Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me.

Grid · 10-10-2012

Like anything in life, you can get burnt out. That may be the case with Ruud. He was on some bad teams for a long time. And who knows what went on in the locker rooms.

What I know is that he is coming into the ideal situation that any defensive free agent would want to come into. A dominant defense, for a superbowl contending team, coached by one of the greatest defensive minds in the business, who has a "play to your strengths" mindset with his players.

Everyone on our defense has bought into what wade phillips is selling. When Ruud comes in..he is going to be surrounded by guys who are of one mind. They will be confident and they will welcome him as a teammate.. they will expect his best, and he will give it because he is gonna be drinking the koolaid too.

Personally.. im excited. Ruud used to be a pro bowl caliber ILB. We KNOW he had that ability in him. If he still has it.. this is the scenario that will bring it back to the surface.

**eriadoc** · 10-10-2012

In looking at the timeline, it looks like he may have been caught up in the housecleaning that went on once Chucky was fired. Maybe he just hasn't caught on with a new defense yet.

**False Start** · 10-10-2012

Good. Holliday should have been gone by week two.

76Texan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me.

Several injuries in the last few years.

I've already posted a link somewhere.

Wolf6151 · 10-10-2012

Cutting Holliday was a good move but I don't understand picking up Ruud, a guy who's obviously not that good and this will be his 4th team in 3 yrs.. Guys like Bentley, Adibi, and Louiseau are all available and have played well for us in the past. Louiseau and Adibi are still young too.

nflnutswife · 10-10-2012

I'm gonna hope and pray this Ruud kid has a spark left in him! Our team better inject some Houston Texans PRIDE in him quick!

Rey · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by silentassassin

It's a stretch. But listening to Kubiak everytime he fielded questions during the preseason about Holliday, he didn't seem as excited as everyone else about the possibility of him being on the team. He always followed up positive points about Holliday with things about him having to be able to play within the offense or showing more.

I could have sworn I heard Kubiak say that Joe petitioned to draft him...

silentassassin · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Rey

I could have sworn I heard Kubiak say that Joe petitioned to draft him...

Yeah I definitely agree that it's probably the case. My "stretch" comment was referring to my own observations about Kubiak's attitude about having Holliday.

**Playoffs** · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Rey

I could have sworn I heard Kubiak say that Joe petitioned to draft him...

Marciano: I didn't jump on the table in the 5th for him for nothing. It's kind of rare to see a kicker go in the 5th round.

Q: How hard did you have to fight for him?

Marciano: It was a battle, but everybody ended up on board... He kicked the ball 55 yards [through the goal post and it was three-quarters the way up the pole.]

Texn4life · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

Marciano: I didn't jump on the table in the 5th for him for nothing. It's kind of rare to see a kicker go in the 5th round.

Q: How hard did you have to fight for him?

Marciano: It was a battle, but everybody ended up on board... He kicked the ball 55 yards [through the goal post and it was three-quarters the way up the pole.]

I'm lost..... Are y'all talking about the same player?

JCTexan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Texn4life

I'm lost..... Are y'all talking about the same player?

No, they're not. One is talking about Holliday, the other Bullock.

**Playoffs** · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Texn4life

I'm lost..... Are y'all talking about the same player?

Oops, maybe not. Thought this was the "Fire Joe..." thread, my bad.

76Texan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by Playoffs

Oops, maybe not. Thought this was the "Fire Joe..." thread, my bad.

LOL!

I had such a good laugh!

b0ng · 10-10-2012

No really guys, if Ruud is seeing snaps as a starter we are effing hosed. Do not expect much of anything from this signing, instead, equate it to the signings of Garcia and Delhomme last year when Schaub went down.

JCTexan · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by b0ng

No really guys, if Ruud is seeing snaps as a starter we are effing hosed. Do not expect much of anything from this signing, instead, equate it to the signings of Garcia and Delhomme last year when Schaub went down.

Exactly. Ruud is coming here to be a backup LB. Nothing more, nothing less. Dobbins will take Cushing's spot in the lineup.

**Playoffs** · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by 76Texan

LOL!

I had such a good laugh!

CloakNNNdagger · 10-10-2012

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Originally Posted by eriadoc

Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me.

At the beginning of last season he dealt with a knee strain injury which did not turn into a chronic problem. He also developed a compensatory groin problem which resolved with his knee injury. His major problem was a shoulder injury that single-handedly took away his performance and continued to worsen until he was placed on IR. He actually underwent shoulder scope surgery this past January. He has had no recurrent knee or groin problems reported to date, and he was seen diving for balls throughout the preseason.........evidently fully recovered from his shoulder surgery. For the 4 years prior to his year with the Titans, he was a "tackling machine"........83,102,107,85 tackles per year respectively. Even with the Titans entirely injury-filled tour, in 9 games he accumulated 47 tackles.........extrapolated to a 70 tackle year.

Barret could definitely be that unexpected "gift." It wouldn't surprise me at all if he were rotated somewhere along the line with Dobbins. Dobbins more for the run and Rudd for the coverage (for which he proved himself to be more than adequate even in his lame duck year).

Fili · 10-10-2012

Expected the release of Holliday. Just don't understand the White signing.

10-10-2012	#42
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,372 Rep Power: 69629	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone Ruud is only 29 years old, and started falling off 2 years ago at age 27. Did he have an undisclosed injury? Did he just forget how to diagnose plays and tackle? Seems kind of odd, if you ask me. __________________ “The Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” - Barry Goldwater

10-10-2012	#43
Grid Hall of Fame Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,299 Rep Power: 2271	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone Like anything in life, you can get burnt out. That may be the case with Ruud. He was on some bad teams for a long time. And who knows what went on in the locker rooms. What I know is that he is coming into the ideal situation that any defensive free agent would want to come into. A dominant defense, for a superbowl contending team, coached by one of the greatest defensive minds in the business, who has a "play to your strengths" mindset with his players. Everyone on our defense has bought into what wade phillips is selling. When Ruud comes in..he is going to be surrounded by guys who are of one mind. They will be confident and they will welcome him as a teammate.. they will expect his best, and he will give it because he is gonna be drinking the koolaid too. Personally.. im excited. Ruud used to be a pro bowl caliber ILB. We KNOW he had that ability in him. If he still has it.. this is the scenario that will bring it back to the surface.

10-10-2012	#44
eriadoc Texan-American Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 15,372 Rep Power: 69629	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone In looking at the timeline, it looks like he may have been caught up in the housecleaning that went on once Chucky was fired. Maybe he just hasn't caught on with a new defense yet. __________________ “The Conservative’s first concern will always be: Are we maximizing freedom?” - Barry Goldwater

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False Start On # 69 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waiting For the Turning Point! Section: 420 Posts: 12,147 Rep Power: 28885	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone Good. Holliday should have been gone by week two. __________________ RIP DIMEBAG DARRELL - 1966-2004 - GETCHA PULL! CLIFF BURTON - 1962-1986 - CLIFF EM' ALL! MMO JWO

10-10-2012	#47
Wolf6151 Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pearland, Texas Posts: 2,708 Rep Power: 6036	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone Cutting Holliday was a good move but I don't understand picking up Ruud, a guy who's obviously not that good and this will be his 4th team in 3 yrs.. Guys like Bentley, Adibi, and Louiseau are all available and have played well for us in the past. Louiseau and Adibi are still young too.

10-10-2012	#48
nflnutswife Hall of Fame Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Kingwood Posts: 1,073 Rep Power: 790	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone I'm gonna hope and pray this Ruud kid has a spark left in him! Our team better inject some Houston Texans PRIDE in him quick! __________________ YELLOW LOT IN A POT

10-10-2012	#56
b0ng Ooops Join Date: Jul 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,837 Rep Power: 27461	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone No really guys, if Ruud is seeing snaps as a starter we are effing hosed. Do not expect much of anything from this signing, instead, equate it to the signings of Garcia and Delhomme last year when Schaub went down. __________________ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Fili All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: DeAndre Hopkins' hair Age: 16 Posts: 505 Rep Power: 3040	Re: Roster Moves, Ruud and White signed, Holliday gone Expected the release of Holliday. Just don't understand the White signing. __________________ "When you expect it," Texans defensive end J.J. Watt said candidly as he stood at his locker, "you don't need to celebrate it."

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