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Old 10-08-2012   #141
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Finally made a play.
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Finally made a play.
That tackle on Tebow?

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That tackle on Tebow?

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Didn't say that it gave me a thrill up my leg...
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Jmo, but merciless would be even worse.

I've said this a million times, but I'm not a fan of the rush olb's on this team. I think barwin would play better on the strongside, but I think reed is playing that position really well.

We need a good wolb, and I personally don't think merciless is that guy. I'd honestly like to see what Braman can do.
Maybe so... but we have to see it with on our own eyes what the first round pick can do.
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5 games in and still zero sacks for Barwin and 2.5 for reed. I only saw Barwin have one quality rush during the game. Our pass rush has been poor outside of JJ Watt.
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Wonder if Connor can cover and take over Cush's spot?

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Wonder if Connor can cover and take over Cush's spot?

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I don't think he can do the MLB spot. I think Reed could do it and that would allow Barwin to rush from strong side and Mercilous from the weakside.
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Barwin can't even play the position he's supposed to play so I wouldn't be moving him to another position to find he can't play that one either.
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what's with the ugly stutter step that i keep seeing from barwin? he's spending too much time watching the play and dancing and trying to set his guy up - barwin needs to start attacking.
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Jmo, but merciless would be even worse.

I've said this a million times, but I'm not a fan of the rush olb's on this team. I think barwin would play better on the strongside, but I think reed is playing that position really well.

We need a good wolb, and I personally don't think merciless is that guy. I'd honestly like to see what Braman can do.
I agree with your take on Merci. As a rookie, Barwin was in the QB's face & making the most of his pass rushing specialist role. I'm not even seeing Merci & imo, for him to earn that spot, he needs to show up when he's on the field. Barwin playing so poorly & Merci not doing any better..... pretty disheartening if you ask me.

Still, Barwin isn't filling the bill, that is a dynamic position on this defense & something has to happen. Merci hadn't earned the position, but neither has anyone else on the team. But it's time for a change.

Brooks is playing well. Last two games especially. I'd hate to take him off the field, but I'd rather do that, than bench Barwin.

Of course, there's no need to bench Barwin, we could up Whitney's reps at WOLB, or throw Braman in there with the first group more often.

We gotta do something. Jj can't keep this up, playing all by himself.
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Barwin can't even play the position he's supposed to play so I wouldn't be moving him to another position to find he can't play that one either.
Uh... he's supposed to be playing the strong side. Even as a rookie in the 4-3, filling for Mario, he played on the strong side. He's playing out of position, the reason we drafted Merci to begin with.
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All I know is with Cushing out Barwin, Reed and Mercilious ALL need to step their game up. Dont have to worry about TE's catching balls over the middle when the oppositions QB is on his ass!
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I'd play three safeties.

Manning is hoss enough to make it work, too.

Wade could set up some scary **** if he put three safeties out there and had one of those three always creeping up to the LOS (middle, edge, wherever).

We lost our best ILB, so my thinking is "Why fight against it? Adapt."

And Danieal Manning is an old school Safety, the kind of guy who can drift down and play the run or play coverage. He's capable of doing so much more than he has been.

I can't wait to see how Wade adapts to this. He's at his best when he has to solve problems and get creative. Manning, IMO, could really be a shot in the arm here if he's unleashed.
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Barwin can't even play the position he's supposed to play so I wouldn't be moving him to another position to find he can't play that one either.
Barwin was playing SOLB with Mario at WOLB.
When Mario was injured, he moved to WOLB and Reed played at SOLB.
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Agreed...the guy has no moves. Just a bull rush..which is not working. I would like to see mercilus now and see what he can offer over connor.
If Barwin would just keep running wide at least he might take the tackle with him weakening the line & allowing a cb or safety to get through. Seemed like Barwin was just being screened out.
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I don't think he can do the MLB spot. I think Reed could do it and that would allow Barwin to rush from strong side and Mercilous from the weakside.
You'd hate to lose what Reed's been doing on the strong side, but hopefully it's in the back of Wade's mind.
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You'd hate to lose what Reed's been doing on the strong side, but hopefully it's in the back of Wade's mind.
I think Wade is waiting for another Cowboy to be cut.
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Barwin was playing SOLB with Mario at WOLB.
When Mario was injured, he moved to WOLB and Reed played at SOLB.
Didn't they have to swap positions a few games in because it wasn't working? Everyone always says how we didn't miss a beat when Mario went down, I actually thought there was a period of adjustment where they weren't quite getting there for a few games before Watt, Barwin and Reed went sick down the stretch and into the playoffs.
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It is worth noting that Barwin tallied only 2 sacks in the first eight games last season, before exploding for 9 in the final eight contests.
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It is worth noting that Barwin tallied only 2 sacks in the first eight games last season, before exploding for 9 in the final eight contests.
Barwin was playing a different in the first 5.

He was playing solb over the TE, dropping in coverage quite a bit. Mario was rushing the passer mostly from wolb.

They are more balanced in how they rush the olb's this year but barwin is still a bunch and he's playing on the weakside.

All that aside, him exploding for the four sacks in jacksonvile which was basically a third of his sacks is not necessarily a positive.

I like barwin and he is not sucking. But he's not playing at a high level either.
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