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ChrisG · 10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Premier

this wasnt a problem last year.. trindon has to go. he doesnt bring anything. hes much better taking a knee and gettin the 20 instead bringing it out to the 9..

Not sure if sarcasm, but we had the same problem last year. Jacoby was very similar to Holliday. They both always seem to be a fraction of an inch away from muffing a punt or KO return. They both pose for photos before they start running (

then

). The only difference I have seen so far is that Jacoby costs us a playoff game and Holliday hasn't. Lets hope we make a change before Trindon does

Also kick coverage has been terrible. We need a new KR/PR and ST Coach

LikeMike · 10-09-2012

Holiday has taken bad decisions... but the coverage team hasnt given him anything to work with. This is on the coach. You still might debate if Holiday with his bad decisions is worth a rosterspot, but you shouldnt debate based on his bad production.

speedfreek · 10-09-2012

Trindon looked good in camp because he was returning against our weak kick coverage team. That's why everyone on the ST coaching staff thought he was special.

TJ

Rey · 10-09-2012

I'm not going to put this all on Joe.

I think some of this is more on the players he has to work with.

I think special teams were better in pre season when he had all those guys we cut out there.

**Thorn** · 10-09-2012

Special teams are horrid, putrid, terrible. It's a frigging wonder we are 5-0 with the special teams we have. The frigging kicker seems fairly decent with his FGs, but can't kick the goddamned ball off for any distance. Return teams can't return or stop the return.

It's just plain terrible.

steelbtexan · 10-09-2012

The thing that gets me is,

Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.

**Thorn** · 10-09-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

The thing that gets me is,

Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.

and the guy we did draft couldn't kick anything either. Yeah, yeah, he was injured. He still couldn't kick it past the goal line on kickoffs anymore than the clown we have now.

281 · 10-09-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek

Trindon looked good in camp because he was returning against our weak kick coverage team. That's why everyone on the ST coaching staff thought he was special.

TJ

I think Trindon made the team because of his stellar preseason play. However, I'm cringing on every return so far in the regular season.

Errant Hothy · 10-09-2012

As others have said, Marciano/the return game hasn't been the same since the wedge was outlawed. Marciano hasn't been able to adapt, and thus we return game has been in decline.

HJam72 · 10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by Errant Hothy

As others have said, Marciano/the return game hasn't been the same since the wedge was outlawed. Marciano hasn't been able to adapt, and thus we return game has been in decline.

Marciano needs to be replaced and that is one reason why.

**gtexan02** · 10-09-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

The thing that gets me is,

Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.

This really gets me too. Scouting a kicker can not be that difficult.
"Ok, both of you kick off"

Whoever kicks it farther is the winner. We had to know that Bullock couldn't get many TBs

This Zuerlein kid is 100% and already has a 60 yarder under his belt in his rookie year

**Double Barrel** · 10-09-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

I was gonna make it the "All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano" thread but i screwed the pooch.

Fixed it for you. I thought about starting this same thread last night after Holliday was unable to get it to the 20 yard line over and over again. It reminds me of Einstein's definition of insanity.

buddyboy · 10-09-2012

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Originally Posted by rolyat93

Don't forget he drafted that kicker who's shown nothing this year.

He's injured.

speedfreek · 10-09-2012

At this point,

I'd rather have this Marciano:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Marciano

TJ

NastyNate · 10-09-2012

It's just frustrating watching our offense have to start every drive from the 16 yard line. Joe has got to go. I would love to see Manning return kickoffs again. He brought it.

DRP · 10-09-2012

A change needs to be made before our SP/T cost us a game.

rolyat93 · 10-09-2012

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyboy

He's injured.

He wasn't winning the job.

**ArlingtonTexan** · 10-10-2012

coach Joe has been just okay at best for most of his tenure here. I said something similiar a few years back and seems like a couple of dudes jumped all over me.

Special teams coaches always seemed like the gypsies of the NFL never around for more than a couple of years.

Scooter · 10-10-2012

i'll just quote myself from earlier this year ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooter

it's been talked about for no less than 2 (going on 3) years now. everybody loves coach joe, i certainly do. he needs to be replaced however, as i unpopularly said last year. we have too much talent thrown into our ST unit to be mediocre at best (and a spectacular failure today).

**Kaiser Toro** · 10-10-2012

He has had to go since 2007.

10-09-2012	#22
LikeMike All Pro Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 686 Rep Power: 3271	Re: Joe Marciano Holiday has taken bad decisions... but the coverage team hasnt given him anything to work with. This is on the coach. You still might debate if Holiday with his bad decisions is worth a rosterspot, but you shouldnt debate based on his bad production.

10-09-2012	#23
speedfreek All Pro Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 506 Rep Power: 957	Re: Joe Marciano Trindon looked good in camp because he was returning against our weak kick coverage team. That's why everyone on the ST coaching staff thought he was special. TJ

10-09-2012	#25
Thorn Dirty Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston Section: Restrained in the mental ward Age: 62 Posts: 18,320 Rep Power: 55748	Re: Joe Marciano Special teams are horrid, putrid, terrible. It's a frigging wonder we are 5-0 with the special teams we have. The frigging kicker seems fairly decent with his FGs, but can't kick the goddamned ball off for any distance. Return teams can't return or stop the return. It's just plain terrible. __________________ "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid." --- John Wayne

10-09-2012	#26
steelbtexan Hall of Fame Join Date: Feb 2007 Age: 50 Posts: 8,911 Rep Power: 22920	Re: Joe Marciano The thing that gets me is, Coach Joe drafts Bullock and the Rams draft the best K I have seen come out of college in a while. Zuerlien (SP?) That guy has a Sea Bass type leg and is super accurate.

10-09-2012	#29
Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Keller, Tx Age: 34 Posts: 9,666 Rep Power: 7471	Re: Joe Marciano As others have said, Marciano/the return game hasn't been the same since the wedge was outlawed. Marciano hasn't been able to adapt, and thus we return game has been in decline.

10-09-2012	#24
Rey Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 11,989 Rep Power: 48885	I'm not going to put this all on Joe. I think some of this is more on the players he has to work with. I think special teams were better in pre season when he had all those guys we cut out there.

10-09-2012	#34
speedfreek All Pro Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 506 Rep Power: 957	Re: All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano At this point, I'd rather have this Marciano: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Marciano TJ

10-09-2012	#35
NastyNate Loudmouth Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Pasadena Posts: 1,129 Rep Power: 9595	Re: All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano It's just frustrating watching our offense have to start every drive from the 16 yard line. Joe has got to go. I would love to see Manning return kickoffs again. He brought it. __________________ I intend to live forever... so far so good.

10-09-2012	#36
DRP Rookie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Leander, TX Age: 31 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	Re: All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano A change needs to be made before our SP/T cost us a game.

10-10-2012	#38
ArlingtonTexan Moderator Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 5,284 Rep Power: 20331	Re: All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano coach Joe has been just okay at best for most of his tenure here. I said something similiar a few years back and seems like a couple of dudes jumped all over me. Special teams coaches always seemed like the gypsies of the NFL never around for more than a couple of years. __________________ It doesn't just seem like I was talking down to people, I was. (Runner 8/4/09).

10-10-2012	#40
Kaiser Toro Native Mod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Straight Outta Austin Age: 43 Posts: 15,901 Rep Power: 20164	Re: All Encompassing Fire Joe Marciano He has had to go since 2007. __________________ Texans 2012: Kidz II Men

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